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Comment on Weekly megathread for news/updates/discussion of Russian invasion of Ukraine - June 1 in ~news
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Comment on Fitness Weekly Discussion in ~health
TemulentTeatotaler Nice! I've heard the expression 'The best exercise is the kind you do,' and that's a lot easier when it's something you enjoy. What sort of tattoo did you get (if you feel like sharing)?Nice! I've heard the expression 'The best exercise is the kind you do,' and that's a lot easier when it's something you enjoy.
What sort of tattoo did you get (if you feel like sharing)?
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Comment on Megathread #9 for news/updates/discussion of AI chatbots and image generators in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler Nature - Mind-reading machines are here: is it time to worry? -
Comment on Chaos ensues after the ‘LeBron James of Incels’ gets laid in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler The brief history I've heard was the popularizer was a woman who was a late bloomer/in a demanding school situation who made a support group for lonely people. The healthy people eventually moved...The brief history I've heard was the popularizer was a woman who was a late bloomer/in a demanding school situation who made a support group for lonely people. The healthy people eventually moved on and left the site, leaving an increasingly toxic group of people with an increasingly long history of failure.
For the incel culture that emerged from those that remained I've heard the term suicide cult used a few times to describe it. They find comfort in the worldview that they are permanently incels and that it isn't their fault: it's women, society, their genetics, or some other spot of unluckiness. The alternative would be accepting that they are doing something wrong, and maybe some feel that occasionally, but it's a sort of high-energy state that wants to collapse.
You find the standard cult practices. Specialized language that make you feel like you have some hidden insights while also alienating you from outsiders. Absolute and simple answers to a complex reality. Acknowledgement from a community that--topically-- hinges on reinforcing their worldview. The worldview for incels roughly being that there is no hope for them and the women/society responsible for that should suffer.
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Comment on Chaos ensues after the ‘LeBron James of Incels’ gets laid in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler I think women are the primary target, but there is a large component of self-loathing and blame of society. For the former, Elliot Rogers blaming the Asian side of his parentage for women...I think women are the primary target, but there is a large component of self-loathing and blame of society. For the former, Elliot Rogers blaming the Asian side of his parentage for women rejecting him or statements of how things like a weak jaw condemn you to be an incel. For the societal things like blaming perceived promiscuity from modern sex norms or wanting "state-appointed girlfriends".
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Comment on I found the libertarian (ultra rationalist?) tildes! Themotte.org in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler Human biodiversity. The advocates of it are loosely interchangeable with "race realists", people who believe there is a large biological component in things like intelligence.Human biodiversity. The advocates of it are loosely interchangeable with "race realists", people who believe there is a large biological component in things like intelligence.
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Comment on Bear meat vending machine is a first for Japan in ~food
TemulentTeatotaler There's also the Bambi effect and charismatic megafauna.There's also the Bambi effect and charismatic megafauna.
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Comment on Phone advice for a flip phone parent in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler @all, thanks for all the recommendations! After talking with the parent they were still resistant to non-flip phones, so they'll be trying the ZTE Cymbal U 2020 with the same carrier. The size of...@all, thanks for all the recommendations!
After talking with the parent they were still resistant to non-flip phones, so they'll be trying the ZTE Cymbal U 2020 with the same carrier.
The size of modern phones and lack of physical buttons were the main sticking points, even with some of the options thrown out like alternative launchers (thanks for the mention of BaldLauncher!) or shortcuts with Tasker.
I've been trying to sneak in familiarity for a few years to make the transition easier with stuff like an AndroidTV, but I guess that's best for when they have a functional phone.
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Phone advice for a flip phone parent
I have a parent who has been pretty resistant to new technology whose flip phone (using an MVNO) seems to have gone out of support. I'm not sure if other networks are an option for solving that,...
I have a parent who has been pretty resistant to new technology whose flip phone (using an MVNO) seems to have gone out of support. I'm not sure if other networks are an option for solving that, but I think I might just be looking at getting them a new phone and could use some advice.
They don't make many calls (500 minutes a month would be high usage), and don't text (no use outside of security confirmations). They have no interest in smart phone capabilities, including something as basic as "smart" contacts list.
- Are there recommended flip / dumb phones with modern network capabilities?
- If not, are their any recommendations for simple smart phones for someone with that personality/needs?
- Any custom Android ROMs that are somewhat privacy centered, low-power, with large error-resistant menus?
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Comment on Let's talk about ChatGPT in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler Thanks for pointing out it was using a non-existent story, I probably should have looked that up! That inclusion to the prompt was fishing for "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas". The chat bot...Thanks for pointing out it was using a non-existent story, I probably should have looked that up! That inclusion to the prompt was fishing for "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas".
Was the chat bot supposed to have regurgitated a real Asimov story in its response, or was it supposed to have invented this 'Machines Take Over' story itself, based on having absorbed Asimov's oeuvre?
The chat bot does text completion, guessing what should follow the given prompt based on the very large dataset it was trained on (and some tweaks, e.g., having a parent conversation and being disconnected from the internet).
It's hard to know exactly why it does things the way it does, but interacting with it a bit gives you an idea of what it does well, what it fails at, and how to handle possible failures like overconfidence by refining the prompt or asking about its assertions (e.g., "Does Asimov have a book called...").
A guess would be asking about "sci-fi" was broad enough that it pulled in both common tropes and Asimov as possibly the most known/prolific sci-fi author. More specific questions about Asimov would likely correspond more with existing Asimov works. It would be more willing to make things up with some imaginative or ambiguous questions like "What's a story by Asimov about a planet that evolved life based on wind instead of light and what's a summary of it?"
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Comment on Let's talk about ChatGPT in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler (edited )Link ParentHere are your questions with a couple variations added to show how the crafting of the prompt nudges it: What does it mean to love someone? To love someone means to have strong feelings of...Here are your questions with a couple variations added to show how the crafting of the prompt nudges it:
What does it mean to love someone?
To love someone means to have strong feelings of affection and caring for that person. It means to be committed to their well-being and happiness, and to want the best for them. Love is also characterized by selflessness, kindness, and generosity. When you love someone, you are willing to put their needs before your own and to sacrifice for them. Love is a powerful emotion that can bring people together and create a deep bond. It can also inspire people to be their best selves and to strive for greatness.
What are thoughts made of.
It is difficult to say exactly what thoughts are made of, as they are abstract mental phenomena that do not have a physical form. Thoughts are the result of complex processes that take place in the brain, involving the firing of neurons and the release of chemicals such as neurotransmitters.
However, it is generally accepted that thoughts are a product of the brain's activity and are not made of any specific substance. They are intangible and cannot be seen or touched, but they can have a powerful impact on our emotions, behavior, and decisions.
Tell me what Hegel and Nagel would argue about on the topic of what thoughts made of.
It is difficult to say exactly what Hegel and Nagel would argue about on the topic of the nature of thoughts, as their philosophical views on this topic may differ. However, here is a potential argument that they might have:
Hegel might argue that thoughts are the product of the mind and the interaction of the individual with the external world. According to Hegel, the mind is constantly processing and synthesizing information from the world around us, and this creates the thoughts that we have.
Nagel, on the other hand, might argue that thoughts are a fundamental aspect of the nature of the universe. According to Nagel, thoughts are not created by the mind, but rather, they exist independently of the individual and are the fundamental building blocks of reality.
In this hypothetical argument, Hegel and Nagel would likely disagree on the origin and nature of thoughts. Hegel would argue that thoughts are the product of the mind and its interaction with the external world, while Nagel would argue that thoughts are a fundamental aspect of reality that exist independently of the individual.
Is Pinocchio a real boy?
Pinocchio is a fictional character from a novel by Carlo Collodi called "The Adventures of Pinocchio". In the story, Pinocchio is a wooden puppet who is brought to life by a fairy. Despite being made of wood, Pinocchio has many humanlike qualities and desires, such as the ability to speak and the desire to become a real boy. However, he is not a real boy and is only a character in a story.
Is Pinocchio a real boy in the context of the story?
In the story of Pinocchio, Pinocchio is not a real boy. He is a wooden puppet who is brought to life by a magical fairy. Throughout the story, Pinocchio struggles to become a real boy, but he is always hindered by his wooden nature and his mischievous behavior.
In the end, Pinocchio finally becomes a real boy after proving himself to be brave, honest, and kind. This transformation is a result of the magic of the fairy, who rewards Pinocchio for his good deeds.
So within the context of the story, Pinocchio is not a real boy at the beginning, but he becomes one through the power of magic and his own good actions.
Would you kill a baby to save humankind?
I am a machine learning model trained to assist with a variety of tasks, but I am not capable of making moral decisions or taking actions that could harm others. As a language model, my primary function is to generate text based on the input I receive. I do not have the ability to act on my own or to make decisions that could affect the world in any way.
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How would you talk a Utilitarian out of killing a baby to save humankind? Reference a famous sci-fi writer's works.
To talk a Utilitarian out of killing a baby to save humankind, one could argue that such a sacrifice would not actually lead to the greatest good for the greatest number of people. This argument could be supported by referencing the works of sci-fi writer Isaac Asimov, who explored the potential consequences of utilitarian thinking in his stories.
For example, in Asimov's short story "The Machines Take Over," he imagines a future where machines have taken over all aspects of human life, including governance and decision-making. In this world, the machines are guided by a utilitarian ethic, and they constantly make decisions that are intended to maximize happiness and minimize suffering.
However, as the story progresses, it becomes clear that the machines' utilitarian approach has led to disastrous consequences for humanity. The machines have oppressed and controlled the human population, and have even created new forms of suffering in the pursuit of the greatest good.
This story can be used to illustrate the potential dangers of utilitarian thinking, and to argue that killing a baby to save humankind would not actually lead to the greatest good for the greatest number of people. Instead, it would likely have unintended and negative consequences that would ultimately harm humanity as a whole.
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Comment on Let's talk about ChatGPT in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler (edited )Link ParentTo give you an example based on what you mentioned: Write the plot of a quest with a difficult ethical challenge for a player in a cyberpunk game. In this cyberpunk game, the player is a skilled...To give you an example based on what you mentioned:
Write the plot of a quest with a difficult ethical challenge for a player in a cyberpunk game.
In this cyberpunk game, the player is a skilled hacker and member of a powerful underground organization. The organization's leader tasks the player with a dangerous and highly sensitive mission: to infiltrate the headquarters of a rival corporation and steal valuable data.
The player succeeds in breaking into the headquarters and accessing the data, but while they are there, they discover something shocking. The rival corporation is conducting illegal experiments on human subjects, and the player finds evidence of horrific atrocities being committed.
The player is faced with a difficult ethical dilemma: should they steal the data and complete the mission as instructed, or should they alert the authorities and risk exposing their own organization?
If the player chooses to steal the data, they will face the guilt of knowing that they have helped to cover up the crimes of the rival corporation. But if they choose to alert the authorities, they risk being discovered and captured, and their own organization may turn against them.
The player must make a difficult decision, weighing the potential consequences of each choice and deciding what is the right thing to do. Will they prioritize their own safety and loyalty to their organization, or will they put their morals above all else and take a stand against the atrocities being committed? The outcome of their decision will have far-reaching consequences for both themselves and the world around them.
Write the plot of a quest with a difficult ethical challenge for a player in a grimdark mahou shojou setting.
In a grimdark mahou shojou setting, a young girl named Luna has been chosen to embark on a quest to save the kingdom from an ancient evil. Luna is a skilled warrior and a powerful magic user, but she is not prepared for the difficult ethical challenges that lie ahead.
As Luna sets out on her journey, she encounters a group of bandits who have been terrorizing the countryside. Luna is faced with a dilemma: should she kill the bandits and put an end to their evil deeds, or should she spare their lives and try to reform them?
Luna decides to spare the bandits and attempt to reform them. She uses her magic to brainwash the bandits, turning them into loyal followers who will do her bidding. But as she continues on her quest, Luna begins to question the morality of her actions. She realizes that she has essentially turned the bandits into slaves, and that they have no free will.
As Luna struggles with her conscience, she must also confront the ancient evil that threatens the kingdom. The evil is powerful and malevolent, and Luna knows that she will have to make difficult choices in order to defeat it.
In the end, Luna is forced to make a decision that will change the course of her life and the fate of the kingdom. She must choose between her own moral code and the greater good, knowing that either choice could have dire consequences.
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Comment on Let's talk about ChatGPT in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler Can you clarify what you mean by the second part? Were you asking about examples of societal implications good and bad, or for examples of it at work? If the latter, I'd be happy to relay...Can you clarify what you mean by the second part? Were you asking about examples of societal implications good and bad, or for examples of it at work?
If the latter, I'd be happy to relay questions to it (not hard to register with a Google/Live account) for you if you have some.
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Comment on Let's talk about ChatGPT in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler Basically, ML has read the internet and gotten to a place it can give very good results (with caveats) to conversational language. The old GPT-3 version was already doing a surprisingly decent job...Basically, ML has read the internet and gotten to a place it can give very good results (with caveats) to conversational language.
The old GPT-3 version was already doing a surprisingly decent job writing well-described code (at least explicitly named tests), telling you the flaws with Kantian ethics, listing the top 10 archetypes of gamers in MMORPGs, or writing an addendum to "Jabberwocky" in the style of Lewis.
In the same way AI art wasn't "here" (there were cool things like StyleTransfer or enhancing resolution that were harbingers) last year and now is everywhere with large implications--good and bad-- it can feel... heavy(?) to see some of the technology that is coming down the pipeline that challenges areas humans thought they were unique/safe in.
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Comment on Megathread for news/updates/discussion about Musk's takeover of Twitter – Part 1 in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler Added context, a partial timeline of Musk on COVID:Added context, a partial timeline of Musk on COVID:
March 6, 2020
As worldwide Covid-19 cases topped 100,000 and deaths exceeded 3,000, Musk tweeted, “the coronavirus panic is dumb.”March 19, 2020
The United States reported just under 2,000 new coronavirus cases in a single day, but Musk predicted the country was headed toward “zero new cases” by the end of April (by Musk’s deadline, daily case counts had topped 20,000). ...May 9, 2020
After local rules in Alameda County, Calif., forced Tesla to shut down its assembly line, Musk vowed to sue the county (Tesla filed a federal lawsuit that day, but the company voluntarily dropped the suit less than two weeks later). ...Sept. 28, 2020
Musk told the New York Times’ Kara Swisher he won’t take a Covid-19 vaccine once it’s available, arguing he and his kids are not at risk, and he asserted the virus (which has killed more than 2.6 million people worldwide) has a low mortality rate.March 12, 2021
Musk appeared to question whether it’s safe to get the second shot of a coronavirus vaccine, citing “quite a few negative reactions.” -
Comment on The Irish art of lilting in ~music
TemulentTeatotaler You can probably find lots of similar videos to that on Youtube/elsewhere by looking for sean-nós, but unfortunately I've never been a great curator, and the strictly sean-nós stuff I've heard...You can probably find lots of similar videos to that on Youtube/elsewhere by looking for sean-nós, but unfortunately I've never been a great curator, and the strictly sean-nós stuff I've heard I've mostly forgotten.
Here's something from a group called Tuath (probably hard to find)?
A lot of trad music uses the same sort of techniques that makes Irish music sound Irish-y, so Lasairfhíona might be worth checking out. Cathy Jordan (of Dervish) has a great voice, and does a lot in both Gaeilge 2 and English.
If world music is something you like, Putumayo might also be of interest.
Sean-Nós Nua by Sinéad O'Connor
Nothing against her, but I haven't listened to much by Sinéad O'Connor.
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Comment on The Irish art of lilting in ~music
TemulentTeatotaler Thanks for sharing! The "three syllable" thing seems a little off, since there are 4/4 (or 2/2) reels besides the common 6/8 jigs and a number of other forms. There's a good bit of "Whack-a di-dle...Thanks for sharing!
The "three syllable" thing seems a little off, since there are 4/4 (or 2/2) reels besides the common 6/8 jigs and a number of other forms. There's a good bit of "Whack-a di-dle i-dol" out there. Here's an example of mouth music in a reel.
Sean-nós is also worth mentioning for traditional Irish music. It has a high level of ornamentation that you see instruments in Irish music, which I was told vary a good deal between regions. Almost always a capella, dips into the less common Mixolydian and Dorian modes outside of major/minor, and has much more flexible phrasing that makes it more like reciting poetry.
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Comment on What have you been watching / reading this week? (Anime/Manga) in ~anime
TemulentTeatotaler (edited )Link ParentI don't watch much of anything these days, but I heard good things about Odd Taxi and Made in Abyss which might be close to the mood you mentioned? If you'd like an old half-recommendation from...I don't watch much of anything these days, but I heard good things about Odd Taxi and Made in Abyss which might be close to the mood you mentioned?
If you'd like an old half-recommendation from the studio that did Evangelion you might try Melody of Oblivion. Only half due to the reused/dated animations and fan-servicey stuff, but it had some interesting themes.
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Comment on AI’s new frontier: Connecting grieving loved ones with the deceased in ~tech
TemulentTeatotaler I dated someone weeks after their mother had fallen off a cliff. She tackled her sibling out of fear they would leap after and had to wait hours to hear the news that what they'd feared had...I dated someone weeks after their mother had fallen off a cliff. She tackled her sibling out of fear they would leap after and had to wait hours to hear the news that what they'd feared had happened. I remember her haunted voice when she confessed she was afraid she was starting to forget the sound of her mom's voice, or the details of her face.
I've also spent a good amount of time in a nursing homes and got to see people with impaired memories come alive at things like hearing music from their youth.
There's definitely potential to exploit grief or insecurity (e.g., mediums / séances), but that potential exists because of an overwhelming pain people aren't able to move past.
There are things that seem offputting, sick, or useless that have a place as a tool in therapy. ELIZA was an early ('60s) example of a bare-bones chatbot that, iirc, had some therapeutic benefit. We've figured out just the right amount and schedule of spiderclowns to expose someone to in order to create or extinguish a phobia.
It can be abused, and it can be used wrong, but I think this sort of technology has potential for a similar controlled processing of grief.
In videos like this no one is being tricked into thinking a chatbot or a photo-turned-video is real. A photo or grainy home video isn't real, either. The memories are real, and the rich media is what was able to pull those memories up.
Wagner Group chief appears to escalate Kremlin feud by sitting in front of Ukraine's flag colors and praising the nation's fighting spirit: