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Comment on Scientists push new paradigm of animal consciousness, saying even insects may be sentient in ~enviro
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Comment on Scientists push new paradigm of animal consciousness, saying even insects may be sentient in ~enviro
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentAlmost necessarily so, if you accept that evolution was a gradual process from mudskipper to man. Besides that most people have some notion of a changing consciousness as they grew from zygote to...Almost necessarily so, if you accept that evolution was a gradual process from mudskipper to man. Besides that most people have some notion of a changing consciousness as they grew from zygote to adult, or when they're tired, fevered, or otherwise altered (inc. recreationally) as Julien Offray de La Mettrie noticed.
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Comment on Fallen crypto mogul Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to twenty-five years in US prison in ~finance
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentI think there's something wrong about how we perceive crime that will increasingly become a problem as society continues to be abstracted. People can't properly factor the pain of someone who...I think there's something wrong about how we perceive crime that will increasingly become a problem as society continues to be abstracted.
People can't properly factor the pain of someone who can't afford dental work, the loss of possible futures had a college fund not been drained, a family weighed by a member requiring significant support, the domestic violence that spikes with financial stress, the risks the unhoused are exposed to, or the slow erosion of constant poverty and stress.
There's a death count for the actions of the Stackler family, and there are people who sold their bodies to make rent or feed an addiction. I had a sad encounter with a childhood friend in that group years back. What is the meaningful distinction between rape and creating the conditions that make prostitution one's best/only option? Or creating problem gamblers with its ~1/5 chance of attempted suicide and (attempted) murder?
If years later we found X number of suicides above the average in the population effected by FTX, or that they live X years shorter lives, what share of that death is SBF's, and if that was in the ballpark of the multiple murders you'd consider harsher punishments for, would you think those should be given to SBF?
I don't mean to weigh in on what sentencing should be for what someone like SBF did. The U.S. clearly has a dysfunctional justice system when compared to other countries, and my personal preference is always some flavor of pragmatism. I just think the language doesn't match the realities, because the realities are hard to collate.
"...Bankman was a fraud who caused a lot of people hardship" -- he caused death, some in the way LUNA did, and other ways slower and less obvious. He is the source of many untold stories like the guy on Reddit years back who stole hundreds of thousands from his family for a "sure thing."
He should be treated in the same way people without connections, wealth, or a story would. In recognition of the fullness of the consequences of his choices. Maybe that should be more leniently, but if so I'd hope it's across the board, and not just for white collar crime.
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Comment on ‘Andrew Tate greeted us by his pool bare-chested’: Dan Reed on his pursuit of the misogynist in ~tv
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentAs cfabbro pointed out, his rise to prominence was based on a misrepresentation of C-16. In 2018 he was putting out things like this on PragerU. He's shown the same willingness to make specious...As cfabbro pointed out, his rise to prominence was based on a misrepresentation of C-16. In 2018 he was putting out things like this on PragerU. He's shown the same willingness to make specious comments about global warming. His Zizek debate is another point of a complete ignorance on his main cultural bogeyman.
When he ended up getting sick on a diet of only "beef, salt, and water" he flew to Russia because no doctors wanted to perform his preferred riskier treatment of being put into a coma. Then he claimed not to know benzos were addictive... as a psychologist.
That is either insane levels of incompetence or reflexive lying. All of which points to him not being someone who can offer healthy criticism. There are lots of valid critiques and refinements to be levied at progressives or feminists, but he isn't the one to do it.
You can certainly find good advice he gives, and I'm sure there's no end to the number of people who'd say he made a positive impact on them or even saved their life. This is the pattern of all gurus, though. Generic good advice and counting your wins but not your losses. All made unique and marketable (and sometimes dangerous) with some weird shit thrown in.
"Exercise more", "have goals", or "have a sense of autonomy/responsibility" is not any more rare or novel than "eat vegetables" (or, I guess, "don't eat only beef"). Many people in his audience would attribute success to him, but without looking at those who had adverse reactions (e.g., sabotaged relationships demanding traditional roles for their partner) or who would succeed regardless it's no more reliable as evidence than people that claim some pseudoscience du jour cured them.
When you get into specific things like using willpower/order to fix your life may just be bad advice, and advice he himself is shown not to follow. If he gets people to (first) seek out Jungian therapy instead of a "gold standard" modality like CBT then he's at least not encouraging an evidence-based approach to therapy.
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Comment on What creative projects have you been working on? in ~creative
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentNo trouble! Bummer about the name, but Plant Bubbles is a nice replacement. I'd thought about making a joke suggestion of Spiro Agnew (from the Latin for "breathe" and, uh, a portmonteau of...No trouble! Bummer about the name, but Plant Bubbles is a nice replacement.
I'd thought about making a joke suggestion of Spiro Agnew (from the Latin for "breathe" and, uh, a portmonteau of "agricultural renewal" (Nixon did found the EPA at least?)) but thought better of it.
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Comment on What creative projects have you been working on? in ~creative
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentLooks great, and I like the concept! I didn't play it for too long and I'm not much of a gamer, but I'll give some feedback with that disclaimer. Mechanically I don't think it was unintuitive. A...Looks great, and I like the concept! I didn't play it for too long and I'm not much of a gamer, but I'll give some feedback with that disclaimer.
Should I remove the "clean air" currency and just have plants be self-reproducing?
Mechanically I don't think it was unintuitive. A color-coded resource is pretty standard.
Should I rename the game from Air Garden to Bubble Garden?
Besides being descriptive, you might want a name to be distinct to help with remembering or finding it. In that sense "Air Garden" is a bit more conceptually overloaded, with aeroponics and air plants like succulents?
I think the thumbnail is probably going to give the largest impression of what your game is about, and it's effective enough there isn't a big difference between your two options.
Have you thought about looking at companion plants for reference? Always cool when you pick up some real-world knowledge from a game, and the tables of what plants synergize or what they attract/repel might be useful for brainstorming.
Instead of popups you might consider something like "Notes" on a menubar, possibly with a badge indicating unread tutorial entries? At the start of the game I was paying attention to putting some plants out and had 4 popups at the same time. I felt like I needed to stop what I was doing to read them, and when one faded the one I was reading jumped. Once gone they seemed to be gone for good. If not, making them clickable to dismiss instead of the small "x" would be helpful?
Keeping the most recently placed plant active would be another QoL change, for bulk planting.
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Comment on Steaks grown from human cells spark interest and outrage [2020] in ~food
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentMy sibling is a therapist and had a messy childhood, definitely get the compartmentalization. Stories have been shared, like: Sad spoilers A patient who failed an attempt at suicide with a drill...My sibling is a therapist and had a messy childhood, definitely get the compartmentalization. Stories have been shared, like:
Sad spoilers
A patient who failed an attempt at suicide with a drill to the skull. Or a woman with connective tissue issues who would dislocate joints taking a shower and had to sing "you are my sunshine" to herself to cope.
If they weren't able to compartmentalize they just couldn't be a therapist. So maybe part training, part survivorship bias at play. Same deal with the gallows humor of medical professions.
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Comment on Steaks grown from human cells spark interest and outrage [2020] in ~food
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentI don't think it's weird in that we have lots of people that believe that, but I think many people make a separation between personhood and biology. Is killing someone with complete brain death...I don't think it's weird in that we have lots of people that believe that, but I think many people make a separation between personhood and biology. Is killing someone with complete brain death killing a person? Is it ending a life? Opinions split on that.
Same thing with where along the spectrum of zygote to infant something "human" comes about. Or maybe sperm, if you're Catholic, or contraceptives as preventing potential life. No one saying life begins at conception is giving time off for bereavement for the huge percent of spontaneous abortions, and no matter how many letters I write I can't take out a life insurance policy for... nevermind.
The blood bag argument is a tricky one. Some people say, well, your organs/blood could save X lives if we harvested them right now. Should society be allowed to take them?
The other side of that argument may be that child neglect is possible because a [prospective] parent has some obligations like someone who opted to give first aid. You can't leave your child in a hot car because you were responsible for it, and someone killing a pregnant woman may be punished more harshly. Is it wrong for someone to drink while pregnant if they're planning to not carry the child?
I'm strongly pro-choice but it can be a messy topic.
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Comment on Steaks grown from human cells spark interest and outrage [2020] in ~food
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentSome of it might be a predisposition, like "sanctity" of moral foundations theory. It's always interesting to see the split in school when people swab various surfaces and see what bacteria was...Some of it might be a predisposition, like "sanctity" of moral foundations theory.
It's always interesting to see the split in school when people swab various surfaces and see what bacteria was there. Some get disgusted because fecal particles are everywhere, and change/doors/fountains are breeding grounds. Others come to the conclusion that they've been living in a world with thresholds for how much bug or mouse can accidentally make its way into their Cheerios and they haven't been harmed by it, so it must not be that bad.
Culturally I think people who've had more of an analytical education might have less of a response, having encountered enough misfirings of instinct to gradually place less importance on it. Do you think that's changed as you've grown older?
Views on abortion might also be relevant, since people who are pro-choice have made a conceptual distinction between human cells and human life, in a way cultures that eat animal meat have made a distinction between humans and animals.
One last thing is the possibility of canabilism seems very far removed from modern life. I don't care if someone jinxes me or gives me the evil eye because I don't believe in them, or that it could have some bad outcome for me.
Do you have a visceral reaction to something like, say, sex dolls that are made to look more like children or have been treated violently? There's an intuition there that someone who does that may be either developing some abusive tendencies or revealing themselves to have them in a way that would directly translate to a real fear of harm.
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Comment on Steaks grown from human cells spark interest and outrage [2020] in ~food
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentImplying someone has dark triad traits and should be avoided is kinda rude.Implying someone has dark triad traits and should be avoided is kinda rude.
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Comment on Robot that uses AI to pull weeds may reduce poisonous herbicide use by 70% in ~food
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentThe robots just need gustatory sensors so the selective pressure causes weeds to taste like corn? Like chicken (though I'm team 'default tetrapod flavoring').The robots just need gustatory sensors so the selective pressure causes weeds to taste like corn? Like chicken (though I'm team 'default tetrapod flavoring').
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Comment on The cocktail party effect — our stunning ability to filter out words and sounds in ~science
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentI recall something similar in studies on in-group preference in infants. One of the takeaways (iirc, from old discussion) was that while babies "like" people that physically look like their care...I recall something similar in studies on in-group preference in infants. One of the takeaways (iirc, from old discussion) was that while babies "like" people that physically look like their care takers more they have an even stronger preference for people speaking the same language. Or maybe they just mistrust the French
In a series of studies, 10-month-old infants in the U.S. and France were shown movies of a native French speaker and a native English speaker who spoke to the infant in alternation. Infants then were shown events in which the two speakers appeared together without speaking, held up two identical toys and, silently and in synchrony, offered the toys to the infant. Just at the moment at which the toys disappeared from view, two real toys appeared in front of the infant, giving the illusion that the toys came from the screen. Infants in the U.S. reached for the toy offered by an English speaker rather than a French speaker, and infants in France reached for the toy offered by the French speaker, even though the toys were identical and were never paired on screen with the language ...
In one study, 2.5-year-old children were shown the same displays of French and English speakers. The two speakers then appeared together silently, and children were given an opportunity to “give a present” to one of them. Children in both the U.S. and France reliably chose the native speaker as the recipient of their gift (Kinzler, Dupoux, & Spelke, under review). In another study, 5-year-old children were shown still photographs of children and then listened to samples of their speech, which varied either in language or in accent, and were asked to choose one child as a friend. Children’s choices were reliably affected by the accent with which the other children spoke. Moreover, children’s friendship choices dissociated from their judgments of comprehensibility: although children understood a child who spoke their native language with a foreign accent, they nonetheless preferred to associate with a native-accented child
Another related concept might be the uncanney valley curve, or our sensitivity to natural acceleration, which we use to categorize the world into agentic and non-agentic things. We're very good at telling if something is falling/moving/etc. in a way that would require it to be alive. And if something is trying to act like it's a floating log (or a human) and we detect that, odds are it is trying to trick you and not for a good reason.
If someone speaks in an unexpected language or mispronounces a shibboleth they may be out-group and evolution has taught us that might be dangerous.
What we perceive is a consensus of a lot of different parts of the brain, and those parts can each be primed in different ways to make them biased towards a particular result. Lots of fun examples of audio priming out there, like the McGurk effect or garbled audio that becomes completely understandable once you're told what it is. I would guess many factors (e.g., recency of speaker to group, perceived safety, etc.) play a role in the threshold of alien argot you have to hear to catch your attention.
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Comment on Taylor Swift does not exist in ~music
TemulentTeatotaler (edited )Link ParentDuckDuckGo redirects John McCaran to what it was meant to be, John McCain. This is a reference to David Foster Wallace's piece McCain's Promise in which he analyzes the candidate whose primary...- Exemplary
DuckDuckGo redirects John McCaran to what it was meant to be, John McCain.
This is a reference to David Foster Wallace's piece McCain's Promise in which he analyzes the candidate whose primary appeal was "authenticity" (and, he argues, had a genuine claim to it) when put in a position where manufactured authenticity stands to benefit him and his agenda.
Should McCain artificially create a situation to portray himself as a straight-talking maverick? Perhaps, because if he doesn't he has handicapped himself and his worldview. It's the same choice Taylor Swift is confronted with, or countless pop stars who put emotion to the writings of aged industry song writers who know how to write good teenage heartbreak for a generation and gender they never were part of.
Why would DDG make this clear, while Google asked me if I was a human? And what part of my humanity corresponds to my ability to identify crosswalks, as judged by an entity with AdSense for blood?
Initially you may look at the conjugation of Cain and Caran. The prefix of 'Mc' connotes a Gaelic origin. The missing 'a' points to the same pressure to form oneself in the mold of the idealized form of the lofty, while the low Damerau-Levenshtein distance suggests there is a limit to how much a vessel can be remolded before it's no longer recognizable. The Anglicization of names from Mac to Mc. A cairn of piled stones used to mark a burial mound. Stones, or Rock?
What is a "Mac" without his "a"? Mc. What does it become when capital is injected? MC, a master of ceremonies. But what ceremonies are being held, and for whom? The audience is clear: John, the everyman, the unclaimed corpse who rises from the grave through submission to Mammon as John Dough.
As for the master, a detour is required. Melle Mel coined the term in the late 70s as the black community started to explore conscious hiphop with Grandmaster Flash and the Furius Five's The Message with a message of structural changes for society and communities.
At the same time the Ĺ̵̦̱̦͇̦̅̈̆̈́̋Ḑ̶̨͎̻̪̿̎͋̚S̶̹͎̪̣̭͆͝ͅ was revoking its ruling that black skin was the Curse of Cain/Ham. Just like that, immutable and universal truths change for convenience. The LDS is known for Romney, fellow candidate and corporate raider of Bain Capital. It's also known for exploiting tithes and tax shelters to influence things like the Boy Scouts. Contrast hiphop of the early 80s to when moneyed interests like BET or suburban edgey kids become arbiters of success and you'll find yourself in Melle Mel's pell-mell hell we are all lost from KRS-Aleph
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Comment on Inside an OnlyFans empire: Sex, influence and the new American Dream in ~life
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentNot OP, but I think you can have exploitation while still having people compensated, making a best choice for themself, and lining up to be exploited. Fundamentally it is about extracting undue...Not OP, but I think you can have exploitation while still having people compensated, making a best choice for themself, and lining up to be exploited. Fundamentally it is about extracting undue value from desperate or hopeful people.
I remember CGP Grey defending spec work as something natural in desirable and competitive fields where newcomers need to break in/establish a reputation. Acting may be attractive for the pay, or making video games attractive for the passion of the art. College athletes need to be in the system to make it to the pros. Starving children hunger for the mines.
You end up with a glut of people willing to do the work, some for much less than what their worth is work. A depression era child exposed to the occupational hazards of the bobbin factory is making a rational choice between starvation and hard labor.
On a societal level we can call what the factory owner does exploitative and push for safety nets and regulations that keep a child from being in that situation to begin with. Or call for more fair share of profits for labor.
In this case, if the marketing translates to an average benefit that is what the employees expected (e.g., they aren't deceptively promised they'll make millions), and the owners don't take an especially disproportionate cut (whatever that would be), I'm not sure if I'd say it's explotative. That line can often be hard to draw, and sex work is an especially fraught subject.
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Comment on Playing video games with mind control in ~games
TemulentTeatotaler (edited )Link ParentBeen a good while, but I used the original Emotiv (...and OpenEEG when shipping delayed 1.5 months) for a shoddy research thing as an undergrad. At the time the EEG functionality broke down into a...- Exemplary
Been a good while, but I used the original Emotiv (...and OpenEEG when shipping delayed 1.5 months) for a shoddy research thing as an undergrad.
At the time the EEG functionality broke down into a cognitive suite (the push/pull/etc. visualization training with a block), detection of facial muscles (e.g., raising an eyebrow, the expressive suite?), and "mood" detection from brain wave frequency correlation. The muscle stuff was pretty good, and I'd assume gyros/eyedetection are fairly polished, but it may never be particularly good for faster twitch gameplay. Which isn't to say bad, or not very useful for the disabled. Just that the bottleneck is thought, and hands are really handy for actuating thought.
Getting a good contact was kinda annoying. Part of that it looks like they resolved using polymer caps instead of felt(?), but you still have to moisten them. In my use I never got good settling it through my hair or feeling comfortable the electrodes were sampling the same spot.
It was also surprisingly fun/draining to do the training. At least for me and the folks I busted it out as a conversation piece for. It was interesting to see how much variation there was in people's ability to just sit still and think a thought for a bit.
My sibling was doing bio/neurofeedback in psych at the time, which seemed to be one of the more compelling use-cases. Give a kid with ADHD immediate feedback if their attention wanders, and make some element of a game better (e.g., you run faster) the higher more attentive you are. The visuals while streaming look great for that.
One of the things I thought was cool at the time, but which I haven't followed/done any sort of reasonable research on was that brain imaging technologies had been following an exponential curve for spatial/temporal resolution, with a doubling period of ~7 years (iirc). Would be cool if that kept up, or to see some of the optical alternatives like in HEG get used.
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Comment on Scientists: Indonesian pyramid may date to 14000 BC, rewriting human history in ~humanities.history
TemulentTeatotaler LinkThe reception in /r/archeology and /r/history was dim:The reception in /r/archeology and /r/history was dim:
There is a dispute over whether certain features are really man made or just the result of natural processes that produce weird looking, unusually regular rocks. There are also allegations that the government is pushing the older date as a "national pride" thing. The oldest date comes from a single team that may not have published all their data.
If the older features are really human made, it would be unprecedented evidence of an otherwise undocumented ancient civilization. If the skeptics are correct, natural geologic processes are being misinterpreted as evidence of ancient construction that human structures were built on top of much later.
So this is a great example of why people need to engage with data critically especially if it makes extraordinary claims. First and foremost, both the study and the article justify calling this the “oldest pyramid” by combining the oldest date that their study alleges there was human activity (carving the outer surface of a naturally-formed dead volcano 25,000-14,000 ya ) with their own description of the more recent layers of construction (i.e. “pyramid”). This is confused and-plainly speaking- idiotic at best and intentionally manipulative at worst. It’s like building a casino on top of the foundations of a prehistoric hut on the Salisbury plain then calling it the world’s oldest casino.
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Comment on Why does some songs begins with the notes C-F ? in ~music
TemulentTeatotaler (edited )Link ParentThe two main styles of tuning are equal temperament and just intonation, and there's pros and cons of both. Equal temperament keeps a constant ratio between one note and it's neighbor. That lets...The two main styles of tuning are equal temperament and just intonation, and there's pros and cons of both.
Equal temperament keeps a constant ratio between one note and it's neighbor. That lets you have a simple logarithmic function that will double a frequency after 12 steps (with Western and other traditions) and makes it easy to switch keys.
Just intonation keeps a whole number ratio between notes, which gets more pure intervals. You can see the outcomes are similar, but a little off.
It's arguably not arbitrary that we prefer certain intervals (e.g., perfect fourths/fifths), but instead have some preference about how their frequencies line up. An octave interval will sound nice because one note is twice the frequency of the other, and a C-G has a 3/2 ratio, a C-F 4/3.
On the more dissonant side you have the "diabolus in musica" tritone, a diminished fifth with a ratio of 64/45. *Put to great effect in Danse Macabre
There was an alternative keyboard someone put together a while back that used this for the basis for the layout.
is very much a product of our culture
There's other stuff, like the number of notes in an octave or the patterns of notes in a scale that's definitely a product of our culture.
For an example of the latter, Greek modes. We still use Ionian (major scales) and Aeoliani (natural minor), but a Phyrgian or Dorian scale would sound weird.
For the former, Arabic/Turkish makam uses 24 steps, and classical Indian music uses 22.
(afaik, definitely not knowledgable about non-Western music)
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Comment on Sam Bankman-Fried is a feature [of effective altruism], not a bug in ~finance
TemulentTeatotaler (edited )Link ParentI think the key flaw of utilitarianism/EA is that it tricks you into believing you know something unknowable. The top experts in the world have routinely performed no better than 5 year olds or...I think the key flaw of utilitarianism/EA is that it tricks you into believing you know something unknowable.
The top experts in the world have routinely performed no better than 5 year olds or chimps in predictions of chaotic systems, but philosophy often skips these sorts of limitations to its application.
From an (inaccessible) omniscient point of view you can evaluate policies as if they were choices in game theory, and you may come to some very unintuitive conclusions. That dissonance is something people have to resolve.
For instance, you may have:
- Policy A - resign immediately
- Policy B - sabotage your work
- Policy C - whistle blow
- Policy D - climb the corporate ladder
If you could know the actual or expected outcome of those policies you may evaluate based on the outcome:
- Policy A - Your company immediately replaces you with someone equally talented. $0MM, 0 Jews saved.
- Policy B - Depending on how aggressively you will be sacked. $1.2MM, 5 Jews saved
- Policy C - No apparatus exists to successfully take down IBM. Depending on when you whistleblew you land between A/B in outcome.
- Policy D - You learn the summoning ritual for Kissinger and have 4 sets of components to try to slay the fel beast. $50MM, 0 Jews saved, 10k Cambodians saved
In this glib and ridiculously oversimplified/non-representative thought experiment: is it morally correct to quit your job at IBM? Why shouldn't you sandbag, if nothing else? You would be indirectly killing Jews if you didn't, but by staying you would be benefiting as part of an institution that was complicit in other deaths.
It's a hard question. Some people don't care about the outcome, following something like deontological/virtue ethics approaches, and would resign even if they contributed very slightly to the death of a Jewish person while saving tens of thousands of Africans, or future Cambodians from similarly heinous events by growing their influence. Some make a distinction between taking an active role, ala flipping a switch on a trolley instead of stating their preferred outcome between 5 dead and 1 dead.
Personal feelings can be factored in as well. Peter Singer can say he would be an unstable/unproductive emotional wreck if he spent the money he used to take care of his aging mother on mosquito nets. EA doesn't have to advocate working 100% of your waking hours or not loving/prioritizing your children over strangers because it's impossible. You can consider the suffering or corrupting influence of working for IBM. It isn't a gotcha for a utilitarian to consider the human condition (not since JSM).
But we aren't omniscient. An analytical consequentialist approach has value, but I think it obviously needs to be paired with heuristics for being a good person with imperfect information.
Kantian sniff test
Fun to see the categorical imperative mentioned instead of the typical objection to Kantian ethics, where he'd call for telling the truth to Nazis asking about Jews hiding in your basement. All my homies hate Kant
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Comment on Timasomo 2023: The Showcase in ~creative.timasomo
TemulentTeatotaler Link ParentDon't know much about photography but you got some cool shots! The shot of the angel in *New Orleans(?) and East River Park were stunning, and I always enjoy the anarchy of stickers/ads that...Don't know much about photography but you got some cool shots!
The shot of the angel in
St. Louis*New Orleans(?) and East River Park were stunning, and I always enjoy the anarchy of stickers/ads that places a "SoHo can't save you" (with dotted O's and hamburger E's) next to a black Zeus and the rest.If you don't mind me asking, what motivated visiting cemeteries in the different countries you did? Was it for this project in particular, personal, or something else?
*And if you ever get around to doing something inspired by Borges hit me up!
I'd argue humans have a pretty good roadmap for understanding human consciousness. A neurologist could look at imaging of a damaged brain and have a decent guess as to how that person would describe how they feel. They may have cortical blindness, or not feel like they owned their hands, or feel their loved ones had been replaced with imposters, etc.
You could take the strong sollipsist position that humans except for you are p-zombies, but being able to alter your own brain activity with medication or something like TMS and see how it lines up with what other people describe gives a decent intuition that your conscious experience is coming from the brain's activity and organization, and it's not a huge leap to believe that isn't unique to you.
Definitely in favor of better treatment of animals, but it's hard to know what consciousness is valuable, human-like, or even accessible.
Is the aversion of single-celled bacteria pain or reflex? What about the spinal reflexes of a person with significant brain damage? What about a foetus, human or otherwise? Does the simulated connectome of C. elegans or Google have a consciousness?
Is avoidance of pain the main goal, when a good deal of the animal kingdom ends up being eaten alive, parasite-ridden, or starving to death? Where do you place the line between mercy killing a deer with Chronic Wasting Disease, population control, or full-on anti-natalism for animals (humanely) raised for food or in pastoralism? Are lab rats that get better treatment than "building rats" unethical?
"Playing it safe" depending on what you consider to be your defaults can lead you to some weird places. Maybe you'd be opposed to abortion or euthenasia. Maybe you'd want to ban cats, or replace obligate carnivores with hunters wherever possible.
Recent psychology got a lot of good criticism for trying to generalize using college students (WEIRD pops), so I can't imagine how bad it is when you get into something as alien as ants passing mirror tests. "Suffering" could have less to do with getting smooshed and more with being on an optimal route to food that ant-feels really inefficient. Or to steal from the Simpson's...