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Comment on The case against summer camp in ~life
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Comment on The case against summer camp in ~life
kyeugh Link Parenti just don't think it is the overwhelming trend, and i don't think the article really levels any non-anecdotal evidence that it is. as i said before, i can agree with you that scout camps are...i just don't think it is the overwhelming trend, and i don't think the article really levels any non-anecdotal evidence that it is. as i said before, i can agree with you that scout camps are pretty bad, but that's because scouts is bad, and i don't think it's a summer camp thing. i think summer camps in general are good, and the article doesn't really do anything to challenge my view on that at all besides pointing out that it's subject to the same issues as pretty much everything else.
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Comment on The case against summer camp in ~life
kyeugh (edited )Link Parentthis is true of boy scout camp and utterly untrue of any other camp i have ever gone to. and of course it's true of boy scout camp... that's half the point of boy scouts (so again, this seems like...Camps often prop up class divisions (hence the author's many mentions of networks, it's like these camps are baby's first old boys' club), humiliate children, beat in an outdated image of masculinity, promote nationalism, generally reinforce existing hierarchies, and employ a rigid structure meant to mimic the military (very explicit if we're talking scout camps, the BSA is literally a military pipeline) to "de-pussify" children.
this is true of boy scout camp and utterly untrue of any other camp i have ever gone to. and of course it's true of boy scout camp... that's half the point of boy scouts (so again, this seems like a criticism of boy scouts, not summer camp). not that my experience is the be-all end-all here, but there are lots and lots of camps that do not behave this way... possibly even the majority of non-scout camps. ultimately the point of many of them is just to have a place to send your children for the summer where you can rest assured that they're taken care of and have fun things to do. and many of them do exactly that. i don't think it's fair to say that the nationalist, hierarchical qualities of the boy scouts accurately reflect summer camps as a whole.
Does it have to be intrinsic or unique? What if it's just extremely common? Why do the fact that it could be better—that these flaws are not inherently part of what a summer camp is—or the that other things have similar flaws invalidate their point?
i mean, no, but it's an editorial about how summer camps are bad, and the way it supports this is either anecdotal or true of pretty much any self-governing group of humans. it's fair to speak out against these kinds of inequalities but i don't see how decrying a conceptually inoffensive institution is really a good or useful means of doing that just because, sure, summer camps emulate and are affected by the society under which they exist. this seems like pretty common sense and i'm not sure why it's really necessary to tear summer camps down because sometimes they're bad in an extremely ubiquitous way. i would say that the fact that the flaws are not inherently part of the summer camp experience is pretty much the best possible reason why the message that summer camps are necessarily bad because of these flaws is invalid.
i guess in general i just don't feel like "summer camps are bad because they are not immune from the trappings of society" is a very good or constructive standpoint, or even a necessarily true one.
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Comment on The case against summer camp in ~life
kyeugh Link Parentit also describes that example as an exception to the rule, though. the article is titled "the case against summer camps," not "the case against my summer camp," and although there's anecdotal...it also describes that example as an exception to the rule, though. the article is titled "the case against summer camps," not "the case against my summer camp," and although there's anecdotal support in there, i think this chunk serves as a pretty good summary of the article:
Ultimately, summer camps exist to validate outmoded social structures among the most vulnerable age bracket. It’s not surprising that athletic preteen extroverts with good looks and excess friends shine in a camp setting — nor is it condemnable. But most of the things that make camp camp form a divisive feedback loop, funneling emotional resources to the kids who already enjoy their fill. It can be a hard chain to break. Picking captains for color wars, treating each cabin like a microsociety, commoditizing care packages — these traditions all conspire to allocate attention to the campers who get plenty of it the rest of the year, and alienate the ones who might not fit in.
and i just don't really agree that it's a fair assessment of summer camps. the fact that it seems to be based heavily on his apparently limited personal experience doesn't help but it's not the deal-breaker for me; it's more that the author seems to feel that summer camps exist to reinforce an outdated system of hierarchy, whereas my view is that it just happens to contain elements of those hierarchies because that's... how society operates, for better or worse. it seems weird to me that those criticisms are being leveled at summer camps specifically.
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Comment on What are you reading these days? #26 in ~books
kyeugh Link Parentlmfao. huge sanderson fan here, right there with you. on the bright side, the law of large numbers dictates that at least one of his stories should eventually get a good film/television...Much to my chagrin, after having sworn myself off unfinished series, I've found myself caring too much about a literary project that won't be finished for a few decades.
lmfao. huge sanderson fan here, right there with you. on the bright side, the law of large numbers dictates that at least one of his stories should eventually get a good film/television adaptation, right? :'D
not to give too much away, but i wasn't sure how sanderson was going to manage to keep escalating after how intense the end of words of radiance was... boy did oathbringer blow me away though. easily my favorite book in the series so far, you won't be disappointed. the fourth book, the rhythm of war, is scheduled for release next year, but that feels so far away...
have you read any of second era misborn by chance? i read through the first book a few years ago and didn't really feel strongly enough about it to keep going, but i hear bands of mourning is fantastic, so i'm thinking maybe i should give it another shot...
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Comment on The case against summer camp in ~life
kyeugh Link Parenti was a boy scout and i'm a trans girl now so i definitely get where you're coming from there. :p but to be honest, scout camp is only one type of summer camp among many. i'm right there with you...i was a boy scout and i'm a trans girl now so i definitely get where you're coming from there. :p but to be honest, scout camp is only one type of summer camp among many. i'm right there with you about the nationalist and religious themes, but that seems more like a criticism of boy scouts in general to me. i don't think the author's experiences are invalid, but it seems a bit extreme to project it onto the concept of summer camp as a whole.
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Comment on The case against summer camp in ~life
kyeugh Link Parenthaha, yeah, i was a pretty frequent camper too. my experiences varied a bit and they weren't all positive, to be fair. for example one year i went to a christian summer camp and i did find that a...haha, yeah, i was a pretty frequent camper too. my experiences varied a bit and they weren't all positive, to be fair. for example one year i went to a christian summer camp and i did find that a bit indoctrinating, but... it was a christian summer camp, so i don't really feel that was unusual, heh. but even that camp had its good aspects, and many of the other camps i spent time at were a blast, both as a camper and as a staffer. like you said, it can be a bit of a mixed bag, but i made a lot of good memories at camp in those years.
in general it really does feel like the author just had a bad personal experience and is extrapolating that onto summer camps as an abstract concept, which is kind of... contrived. the details about his upper class background really didn't help make it feel relatable either.
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Comment on What are you reading these days? #26 in ~books
kyeugh Linki finished the Game of Thrones tv series a few weeks ago, so i decided to give the book a try. it's been pretty slow to get through though, and i'm wondering if maybe it's because i know what's...i finished the Game of Thrones tv series a few weeks ago, so i decided to give the book a try. it's been pretty slow to get through though, and i'm wondering if maybe it's because i know what's going to happen already from having watched the show. :p
so i picked up Dune yesterday to shake it up a bit. i've heard really good things about it and supposedly it's getting a new film adaptation soon, so it seemed like a good time. i'm only a few chapters in so far, but herbert's style is hypnotic. he writes with just the right amount of detail, too— i'm always engaged and curious for more information, both with regard to the characters and the world, but never overwhelmed or confused. pretty excited to see where the book takes me.
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Comment on The case against summer camp in ~life
kyeugh Linkit's not really clear to me what the author is getting at here. what does he dislike about summer camp? that adults instruct children? that younger children are supervised more closely than older...it's not really clear to me what the author is getting at here. what does he dislike about summer camp? that adults instruct children? that younger children are supervised more closely than older ones? that it's not an egalitarian paradise? these all seem like pretty odd and innocuous things to be upset about.
a lot of this reads like "i was a rich kid, i went to rich kid camp, we did rich kid things, it was bad." i suppose you could make a valid argument that imposed hierarchy is bad, but i don't really see how that's an issue intrinsic or unique to summer camps.
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Comment on Casting reveal for Wheel of Time: The Two Rivers Folk in ~tv
kyeugh Linki'm not a huge wheel of time fan, but i'm super happy to see more epic fantasies adapted to tv like this. i'm hoping this goes well enough that we get even more... it would be awesome to get an...i'm not a huge wheel of time fan, but i'm super happy to see more epic fantasies adapted to tv like this. i'm hoping this goes well enough that we get even more... it would be awesome to get an adaptation for something else sanderson, like the stormlight archive.
you seem to be confusing the two different topics i'm addressing here. i don't like boy scout camp, but the reasons for that are not the same as the reasons the author is citing for disliking summer camp (... because he's not talking about boy scout camp either), and they're not reasons that are necessarily applicable to other camps.
all i'm saying with regard to boy scout camps is that they are bad, but that's because their nationalist and religious aspects, as well as their arbitrary but enforced rank-based hierarchy. the author complains about the hierarchies that grow out of ordinary summer camps, too, but i don't really think those are really remotely comparable to the boy scouts analogue. it's two different things. i have never heard of a non-boy scout camp that "humiliates children" and "employs a rigid structure meant to mimic the military." the thought of that is mildly absurd.
so yeah, idk, i think some degree of stratification— often unfair— is going to grow out of any sustained group of people. that's not the same as the rank structure the boy scouts is built on. and while it's unideal, i still find it kind of odd that it's being leveled as a criticism against summer camps specifically, seeing as it's a wider societal issue that's mostly incidental to summer camp.
i know that the author doesn't mention the bsa, but i'm talking about boy scouts in the first place because you cited it as the basis upon which you're forming your own opinion. i'm excluding it because, while i agree it's bad, it's not a summer camp thing, it's a boy scouts thing. while the negative experiences the author had are vaguely related, it's not really the same thing at all.