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  1. Comment on Will Tildes ever implement a rule that posts require the OP to start the discussion in the text section? in ~tildes

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    Of course but how do you change the habit of not reading the article first. Its hardwired into everyone now so there would need to be a push to ensure that is what actually happens. That's what...

    Of course but how do you change the habit of not reading the article first. Its hardwired into everyone now so there would need to be a push to ensure that is what actually happens. That's what I'm asking.

  2. Comment on Will Tildes ever implement a rule that posts require the OP to start the discussion in the text section? in ~tildes

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    In the time before Reddit, this was how I browsed forums I participated in. Reddit has a whole lot of big time problems that can be correlated to seeking Karma and this may well be one of them....

    In the time before Reddit, this was how I browsed forums I participated in. Reddit has a whole lot of big time problems that can be correlated to seeking Karma and this may well be one of them.

    What would be an alternative to this flow?

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  3. Comment on Will Tildes ever implement a rule that posts require the OP to start the discussion in the text section? in ~tildes

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    I agree. However, it appears other don't. I've been thinking about this style of posting which I've used for a very long time on other forums without issues being raised, even those with quite...

    I agree. However, it appears other don't. I've been thinking about this style of posting which I've used for a very long time on other forums without issues being raised, even those with quite stringent rules on style and content. I need to think about this some more.

    I think you are right about the flow, its innate and it is ultimately a time saver allowing one to prioritize where one pays attention. Breaking that would be very difficult.

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  4. Comment on Will Tildes ever implement a rule that posts require the OP to start the discussion in the text section? in ~tildes

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    In areas I find interesting I don't mind a bit of heavy reading even if my participation in discussion is either late or my level of understanding too weak to participate (except in the case of...

    @Deimos posted some long form content in the beginning that I found really interesting, it was about online community building, and I really liked it, but by the time I had read and digested the information the conversation had moved on.

    In areas I find interesting I don't mind a bit of heavy reading even if my participation in discussion is either late or my level of understanding too weak to participate (except in the case of asking questions). It still has value, imo. Too much long form reading won't be received well I would agree; but, in particular a few in technical areas and scientific areas, sometimes it can't be avoided.

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  5. Comment on Will Tildes ever implement a rule that posts require the OP to start the discussion in the text section? in ~tildes

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    This is exactly what I do. This is also why I'll produce snips I think might produce discussion or provide an abbreviated overview for those who reading the full article might be difficult for...

    Tildes Title -> Discussion Thread (Comments)-> Link(Article)

    This is exactly what I do. This is also why I'll produce snips I think might produce discussion or provide an abbreviated overview for those who reading the full article might be difficult for various reasons.

    I am surprised some find this disagreeable and presumptuous. The last thing I want to do is offend others in what I bring forward and how I do it.

    (I also think Tildes is not suited for long form content, it should take 15mins to digest the content or it has a high probability of dying, but that is for another discussion).

    I'd like that discussion, personally some longer form content I find welcome.

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  6. Comment on Will Tildes ever implement a rule that posts require the OP to start the discussion in the text section? in ~tildes

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    That is the assumption I've been working under only to find some don't appreciate that at all. A few expressed here they do not want the OP directing the initial discussion with comments at all or...

    That is the assumption I've been working under only to find some don't appreciate that at all. A few expressed here they do not want the OP directing the initial discussion with comments at all or providing snips of articles. Others citing sections of interest should be only be accompanied with comments from the OP. So I am confused.

    6 votes
  7. Comment on Will Tildes ever implement a rule that posts require the OP to start the discussion in the text section? in ~tildes

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    You make an excellent point with a perfect example. The community hopefully will be able to route this sort of problem out through the trust/reputation system. Currently, Tildes has a bunch of...

    can point to the recent Mercatur Center study on medicare for all as a great example. One could post the study, and only highlight that the study showed an expected cost of 32 trillion USD over ten years. Or, one could post the study and only highlight that the study showed an expected savings of 2 trillion USD under medicare for all when compared to the current system. Both points are important conclusions from the study, but cherry picking them can lead to false conclusions. If I saw either point without the other (especially after reading the study), I would be very suspicious of the poster's motives.

    You make an excellent point with a perfect example. The community hopefully will be able to route this sort of problem out through the trust/reputation system. Currently, Tildes has a bunch of good beans, at least I haven't seen this problem myself. I sincerely hope I don't have blinders on my own submissions. I wouldn't have a problem calling something like that out and I would expect others to do the same.

    I think posting naked links works when the title of that link is adequately descriptive of the contents, something which have done and do. Sometimes they aren't however or topics are quite involved with more than a couple of issues in longer articles.

    I realize what I think is important or interesting may not be to other readers. That is the whole point of discussions in bringing in opposing, more informed or other viewpoints. I'll be more reserved as I note you aren't alone in your opinion and others expressed they don't like intros at all or any offerings from the OP in what the OP finds of interest in a posted article.

    Thank you for bringing it up and your thoughts which I found illuminating.

    6 votes
  8. Comment on Will Tildes ever implement a rule that posts require the OP to start the discussion in the text section? in ~tildes

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    I am guilty of doing this. I do it because often with longer articles, sometimes technical ones, some opinion pieces it takes some time to get to the point of the matter that (admittedly I think)...

    I am guilty of doing this. I do it because often with longer articles, sometimes technical ones, some opinion pieces it takes some time to get to the point of the matter that (admittedly I think) are of interest. I suppose I should just stop doing that as I didn't realize that was insulting and certainly not my intent.

    7 votes
  9. Comment on Auditors: 30M taxpayers will owe more due to low withholding in ~news

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    I agree and perhaps that should be noted in the sidebar. Again, please accept my apology, it was a thoughtless oversight.

    I agree and perhaps that should be noted in the sidebar. Again, please accept my apology, it was a thoughtless oversight.

    5 votes
  10. Comment on Auditors: 30M taxpayers will owe more due to low withholding in ~news

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    I'm a bumbling fool trying to correct it!

    I'm a bumbling fool trying to correct it!

    3 votes
  11. Comment on Auditors: 30M taxpayers will owe more due to low withholding in ~news

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    My apologies, of course I will.

    My apologies, of course I will.

    1 vote
  12. Comment on Will Tildes ever implement a rule that posts require the OP to start the discussion in the text section? in ~tildes

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    I don't think a requirement would be advisable myself. Some links require no further comment as it is worthy on its own accord to generate discussion. Often I will quote a section of the article...

    I don't think a requirement would be advisable myself. Some links require no further comment as it is worthy on its own accord to generate discussion. Often I will quote a section of the article that might generate interest in the topic/article without personal comment. Others may require some enhancement or opinion to generate discussion, it ultimately is an individual style choice.

    I agree that a requirement might well discourage rather than encourage participation as others here have noted.

    1 vote
  13. Comment on Auditors: 30M taxpayers will owe more due to low withholding in ~news

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    The article in total is interesting and goes a bit beyond the opening paragraphs.

    Congressional auditors say about 30 million people — 21 percent of U.S. taxpayers — will have to come up with more money to pay their 2018 taxes next year because their employers withheld too little from their paychecks under government tables keyed to the new tax law.

    New tax withholding tables for employers were put together by the government early this year. About 30 million workers received pay that was “under-withheld” — making their paychecks bigger this year but bringing a larger bill at tax time next spring, according to the Government Accountability Office’s report.

    The article in total is interesting and goes a bit beyond the opening paragraphs.

    6 votes
  14. Comment on Google plans to launch censored search engine in China, leaked documents reveal in ~tech

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    Do I remember Google trying this once before a few years ago and then abandoning it? I suppose that giant population of data points to use is just too tempting. Evil is as evil does.

    Do I remember Google trying this once before a few years ago and then abandoning it? I suppose that giant population of data points to use is just too tempting. Evil is as evil does.

    7 votes
  15. Comment on <deleted topic> in ~news

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    I really think you deserve the thanks for bringing it up. It requires introspection and thought, it requires cold and hard assessments difficult to at times to look at and acknowledge. I know I...

    I really think you deserve the thanks for bringing it up. It requires introspection and thought, it requires cold and hard assessments difficult to at times to look at and acknowledge. I know I don't want to, I'd be much more comfortable diverting my attention and finding constant solace in whatever pablum is offered up. I do partake in it, but selectively and not obsessively, only as needed to maintain a balance.

    This time isn't 'normal' by any stretch, it formerly was silent cancer that has been growing for decades and now is fully symptomatic. Now I fear it has metastasized.

    For each of us as individuals, it is important to express how it impacts us and discuss how to cope, find remedies that are constructive, deliberative and maybe even discover new avenues effect change. Its a conversation that has been lacking over the course. I sincerely hope our species survives and our republic survives and this period time will serve to prevent repeating the same mistakes in a hopefully better future.

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  16. Comment on Droughts, heatwaves and floods: How to tell when climate change is to blame in ~enviro

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    This will help to differentiate between climate change events and other weather events for the general public and therefore serve as an educational tool. This article also, among other topics,...

    Weather forecasters will soon provide instant assessments of global warming’s influence on extreme events.

    This will help to differentiate between climate change events and other weather events for the general public and therefore serve as an educational tool. This article also, among other topics, discusses public planners ability to assess future needs. Journalists may then report in real time with the confidence of a vetted source about events attributed to climate change.

    Perhaps with this information those who remain skeptical may see climate change as something more than a political football?

    2 votes
  17. Comment on Thoughts on user profile badges/trophies? in ~tildes

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    I'm also in the no badges or any sort of designated 'specialness', as in the end it is counterproductive, imo. This breeds problems that Tildes is attempting to avoid, those problems arise from...

    I'm also in the no badges or any sort of designated 'specialness', as in the end it is counterproductive, imo. This breeds problems that Tildes is attempting to avoid, those problems arise from basic human nature that will seek out any gains in personal advantage/recognition no matter how pure the original intent is.

    I think the trust/reputation system will be adequate to provide 'oversight' roles and importantly, keep those roles fresh with new voices entering rather than a permanent and closed system of a few that make those choices. The trust/reputation system is itself the incentive, nothing else is necessary, imo. If that isn't enough for some people, then maybe Tildes isn't a good fit for them and thats ok.

    I'm selfish I admit, I don't want to see growth for growths sake here. I'm perfectly happy with a smaller forum that is of high quality and not on the scale of Reddit or its predecessors. Perhaps I'm off base but tens of thousands of comments in a popular topic is horribly tedious and I'm not sure thats what Tildes is about or wants, hopefully someone will correct me if I've misinterpreted.

    5 votes