I think dark comedy is a better way to describe it. Yeah it's silly and goofy and everyone is terrible and disgusting. But also, every so often, you get some humanity shining through (Imoko never...
I think dark comedy is a better way to describe it. Yeah it's silly and goofy and everyone is terrible and disgusting. But also, every so often, you get some humanity shining through (Imoko never abandoning Yaniko despite constantly stating she hates smoking, Yaku having some sort of PTSD from what we all assume was time in prison, etc.) and it ties it all up together. I think it's really nice overall and makes it stand out among the crowd.
I've been a long time Chainsmoker Cat manga reader, still remember the Young Magazine issue where it debuted, and I can only say I really appreciate the care and love that went into the adaptation. It's honestly stellar given how absurd and short (each chapter is 4 pages) the source material is.
I've watched a few interviews with the cast and everyone really seems to have genuinely gone all out and loved their time on the project. Like how the voice actress, Yuuko Natsuyoshi, personally made all of Yaniko's fart sounds herself instead of relying on digital sound effects. Or how the landlord's voice actor, Tetsu Inada, literally shaved his head for the role.
Obviously I'm not deluding myself into thinking it's trying to be thought provoking. I'm aware a lot of it is just pure shock value and toilet humor. But I still think both the anime and the manga were made with care and are overall enjoyable for what they are.
Objectively? Not really. But I don't think it's due to a mean spirited author and more so because it's an episodic gag manga where nobody grows up and everything is always reset to the status quo,...
Do the characters' situations improve much at all later on in the manga?
Objectively? Not really. But I don't think it's due to a mean spirited author and more so because it's an episodic gag manga where nobody grows up and everything is always reset to the status quo, sort of like the Simpsons.
But you do get a wider cast of participating characters as it goes on and there are some interesting overarching plot threads that get developed. There's also more of that down-to-earth vibe every once in a while.
And despite the characters' living situations everyone is always happy at the end of the day. That's kinda the main message of it I feel: life sucks but we're all gonna make it.
Also agree with the message. Like in the final episode Yaniko got upset when the landlord accused her of not working, showed her actually cared about work. Though I'll hold on hope that the...
Also agree with the message. Like in the final episode Yaniko got upset when the landlord accused her of not working, showed her actually cared about work.
Though I'll hold on hope that the author'd turn things around for them one day, since that happened with Watamote.
I only watched the first three episodes but I thought it was decent. I love the concept of it and I like how it doesn’t romanticize addiction and it shows how gross and depressing it can get when...
I only watched the first three episodes but I thought it was decent. I love the concept of it and I like how it doesn’t romanticize addiction and it shows how gross and depressing it can get when you’re in that state of mind, but at the same time I feel like some of the humor just felt a bit unnecessary, but idk maybe it just wasn’t for me.
Yeah, the first episode or two was pretty rough on introducing to the addictive aspects. I imagine it was to set the bar that it's not trying to associate smoking as a good thing and that it's...
Yeah, the first episode or two was pretty rough on introducing to the addictive aspects. I imagine it was to set the bar that it's not trying to associate smoking as a good thing and that it's generally bad for your overall life letting it take the wheel.
I remember I had the same feeling from the Cyberpunk anime, the first episode was hyper violence and not shy from having sexual themes or anything else. I think this is a good thing, so for those who decide it's not their thing or can't accept the anime for what it is, can abandon it early instead of introducing more of it later.
Just get it all out in the open, so the watcher can decide if it's too much instead of glossing over and taming it too much for the intended audience.
I love cat girls but I couldn't do it, bounced off after only a minute or so of the first episode. I get that it's supposed to be funny and it's okay to not be perfect and I'm glad people can find...
I love cat girls but I couldn't do it, bounced off after only a minute or so of the first episode. I get that it's supposed to be funny and it's okay to not be perfect and I'm glad people can find good in the series, but for me, addiction is too serious of a mental illness to be casual funny, so I need to know the series has ended and that Yaniko and gang all got better first, before I can mentally allow myself to watch something like this. Blame Rick Sanchez.
For what it's worth the show does have its serious moments, I'd say something like 60% comedy, 20% serious, then 20% comedy again. At the end of episode 1 Yaniko had a dream of being told to have...
For what it's worth the show does have its serious moments, I'd say something like 60% comedy, 20% serious, then 20% comedy again.
At the end of episode 1
Yaniko had a dream of being told to have a few months to live left, she woke up crying and calling her sister promising to change. It's pretty real. But then after being comforted by her sister, she picked up a smoke again out of habit.
The MC frequently had moments of self reflection but also relapsed too easily as well. I think the show did try to balance between inviting us to sympathize with the characters, while making sure that people should not feel ok with that lifestyle (especially to people already in or susceptible to it).
Former Diablo/Warcraft content creator. Nicknamed the cockroach king because he lives in squalor and doesn't clean up after himself. Became a right wing political streamer. More recently came back...
Former Diablo/Warcraft content creator. Nicknamed the cockroach king because he lives in squalor and doesn't clean up after himself. Became a right wing political streamer.
More recently came back for the WoW Forever beta. His followers came in the thousands, made characters with offensive names, got banhammered, then proceeded to dox, harass and expose the historic post history of WoW Forever's lead dev James Gunn style, all because he told people with homophobic and racist names to be better people...
Hame Neko is an innocent angel compared to Asmongold. Heck, even comparing Yaniko to Asmongold is a huge insult to Yaniko, at least she's a chill and caring person when she's not desperately...
Hame Neko is an innocent angel compared to Asmongold. Heck, even comparing Yaniko to Asmongold is a huge insult to Yaniko, at least she's a chill and caring person when she's not desperately trying to get another smoke. Asmongold can't even use drug addiction as an excuse, he straight up doesn't want to take a shower. Actual champion of Nurgle IRL.
I think dark comedy is a better way to describe it. Yeah it's silly and goofy and everyone is terrible and disgusting. But also, every so often, you get some humanity shining through (Imoko never abandoning Yaniko despite constantly stating she hates smoking, Yaku having some sort of PTSD from what we all assume was time in prison, etc.) and it ties it all up together. I think it's really nice overall and makes it stand out among the crowd.
I've been a long time Chainsmoker Cat manga reader, still remember the Young Magazine issue where it debuted, and I can only say I really appreciate the care and love that went into the adaptation. It's honestly stellar given how absurd and short (each chapter is 4 pages) the source material is.
I've watched a few interviews with the cast and everyone really seems to have genuinely gone all out and loved their time on the project. Like how the voice actress, Yuuko Natsuyoshi, personally made all of Yaniko's fart sounds herself instead of relying on digital sound effects. Or how the landlord's voice actor, Tetsu Inada, literally shaved his head for the role.
Obviously I'm not deluding myself into thinking it's trying to be thought provoking. I'm aware a lot of it is just pure shock value and toilet humor. But I still think both the anime and the manga were made with care and are overall enjoyable for what they are.
The casts sound like they goof around a lot which is great lol.
Do the characters' situations improve much at all later on in the manga?
Objectively? Not really. But I don't think it's due to a mean spirited author and more so because it's an episodic gag manga where nobody grows up and everything is always reset to the status quo, sort of like the Simpsons.
But you do get a wider cast of participating characters as it goes on and there are some interesting overarching plot threads that get developed. There's also more of that down-to-earth vibe every once in a while.
And despite the characters' living situations everyone is always happy at the end of the day. That's kinda the main message of it I feel: life sucks but we're all gonna make it.
Also agree with the message. Like in the final episode Yaniko got upset when the landlord accused her of not working, showed her actually cared about work.
Though I'll hold on hope that the author'd turn things around for them one day, since that happened with Watamote.
I only watched the first three episodes but I thought it was decent. I love the concept of it and I like how it doesn’t romanticize addiction and it shows how gross and depressing it can get when you’re in that state of mind, but at the same time I feel like some of the humor just felt a bit unnecessary, but idk maybe it just wasn’t for me.
Yeah, the first episode or two was pretty rough on introducing to the addictive aspects. I imagine it was to set the bar that it's not trying to associate smoking as a good thing and that it's generally bad for your overall life letting it take the wheel.
I remember I had the same feeling from the Cyberpunk anime, the first episode was hyper violence and not shy from having sexual themes or anything else. I think this is a good thing, so for those who decide it's not their thing or can't accept the anime for what it is, can abandon it early instead of introducing more of it later.
Just get it all out in the open, so the watcher can decide if it's too much instead of glossing over and taming it too much for the intended audience.
It's rightfully uncomfortable haha. Maybe that's what it'd take to prevent people from romanticizing the characters.
I love cat girls but I couldn't do it, bounced off after only a minute or so of the first episode. I get that it's supposed to be funny and it's okay to not be perfect and I'm glad people can find good in the series, but for me, addiction is too serious of a mental illness to be casual funny, so I need to know the series has ended and that Yaniko and gang all got better first, before I can mentally allow myself to watch something like this. Blame Rick Sanchez.
For what it's worth the show does have its serious moments, I'd say something like 60% comedy, 20% serious, then 20% comedy again.
At the end of episode 1
Yaniko had a dream of being told to have a few months to live left, she woke up crying and calling her sister promising to change. It's pretty real. But then after being comforted by her sister, she picked up a smoke again out of habit.
The MC frequently had moments of self reflection but also relapsed too easily as well. I think the show did try to balance between inviting us to sympathize with the characters, while making sure that people should not feel ok with that lifestyle (especially to people already in or susceptible to it).
Is this the one where people have said the protagonist is like a female catgirl Asmongold?
I need to get around to watching it since it is on Netflix.
I can see that, but she's like him in that she lives in filth. The hatred and African warlord politics aren't there.
I don't know who Asmongold is and now I dreaded to imagine a male human version of Yaniko.
Former Diablo/Warcraft content creator. Nicknamed the cockroach king because he lives in squalor and doesn't clean up after himself. Became a right wing political streamer.
More recently came back for the WoW Forever beta. His followers came in the thousands, made characters with offensive names, got banhammered, then proceeded to dox, harass and expose the historic post history of WoW Forever's lead dev James Gunn style, all because he told people with homophobic and racist names to be better people...
That sounds like it haha. Funnily enough there's another character who's a streamer as well, each with their own problems.
Hame Neko is an innocent angel compared to Asmongold. Heck, even comparing Yaniko to Asmongold is a huge insult to Yaniko, at least she's a chill and caring person when she's not desperately trying to get another smoke. Asmongold can't even use drug addiction as an excuse, he straight up doesn't want to take a shower. Actual champion of Nurgle IRL.