I've only read two so far but I intend to read them all, at my own pace. I tend to mix up the type of books I read. Murderbot reminds me of a noir private eye protagonist from the 1940's or 50's....
I've only read two so far but I intend to read them all, at my own pace. I tend to mix up the type of books I read.
Murderbot reminds me of a noir private eye protagonist from the 1940's or 50's. Alienated and depressed. Observant, insightful, cynical and competent and helpful.
The themes of slavery and freedom and cyborg autonomy make for interesting and moving science fiction. The adventure is fast paced.
I'm partway through System Collapse at the moment. I have loved the series as a whole and Murderbot in particular - her desire to just be an introvert and do her own thing without interacting too...
I'm partway through System Collapse at the moment. I have loved the series as a whole and Murderbot in particular - her desire to just be an introvert and do her own thing without interacting too much with humans is one I rather identify with.
Can I ask what made you use "her" for Murderbot? I find it fascinating when people use binary pronouns, not from any place of judgement, I think it comes from our own perceptions of the character...
Can I ask what made you use "her" for Murderbot?
I find it fascinating when people use binary pronouns, not from any place of judgement, I think it comes from our own perceptions of the character (and discomfort with the use of it/its with people ). And I'm curious if it was intentional or incidental or what! /gen
After a quick check through and Google, this is a straight-up 'whoops' on my part. Though I am not sure where or when the mental association took place, I must have somehow started thinking of...
After a quick check through and Google, this is a straight-up 'whoops' on my part. Though I am not sure where or when the mental association took place, I must have somehow started thinking of Murderbot as a female-leaning character, when in fact I just confirmed that Murderbot is non-gendered.
So, unconscious mental bias on my part I guess? That or memory failure as I read quite a lot and my have cross-associated herdamn it I did it again their character with some other character.
You're good! I think I leaned female before listening to the male audiobook narrator, and have now listened and read multiple times so I have fully internalized "it" I am trying to remember...
You're good! I think I leaned female before listening to the male audiobook narrator, and have now listened and read multiple times so I have fully internalized "it"
I am trying to remember whether any pronouns are used for it when it masquerades as a security consultant.
However I think "agender" is an accurate description.
Maybe this was it? I know ART set up that identity, but I can't remember if ART added gender identity. I could see them doing that just to fuck with Murderbot.
I am trying to remember whether any pronouns are used for it when it masquerades as a security consultant.
Maybe this was it? I know ART set up that identity, but I can't remember if ART added gender identity. I could see them doing that just to fuck with Murderbot.
Are you accusing an Asshole Research Transport of being... Gasp an asshole? But yeah I can't recall if Rin is binary gendered at all. Murderbot certainly doesn't gender itself but maybe the others do.
Are you accusing an Asshole Research Transport of being... Gasp an asshole?
But yeah I can't recall if Rin is binary gendered at all. Murderbot certainly doesn't gender itself but maybe the others do.
Ah damn I've only read the first and second in the series. Completely forgot about it, even though I enjoyed it. Will add this to the line of stuff to consume while flying this December.
Ah damn I've only read the first and second in the series. Completely forgot about it, even though I enjoyed it. Will add this to the line of stuff to consume while flying this December.
It's been a while since I read it, so I don't really have anything clever to say about it. But I've only read the first four, so thanks for reminding me. I was looking for my next read.
It's been a while since I read it, so I don't really have anything clever to say about it. But I've only read the first four, so thanks for reminding me. I was looking for my next read.
I tried to read the first one and couldn't make it through. Martha Wells is one of my favorite authors too, so I was a little surprised to bounce off it. Most of my favorites from her are early...
I tried to read the first one and couldn't make it through. Martha Wells is one of my favorite authors too, so I was a little surprised to bounce off it. Most of my favorites from her are early works, like Death of the Necromancer and City of Bones though, so maybe her style has changed too much for me.
I've only read two so far but I intend to read them all, at my own pace. I tend to mix up the type of books I read.
Murderbot reminds me of a noir private eye protagonist from the 1940's or 50's. Alienated and depressed. Observant, insightful, cynical and competent and helpful.
The themes of slavery and freedom and cyborg autonomy make for interesting and moving science fiction. The adventure is fast paced.
It is a very sympathetic main character.
I'm partway through System Collapse at the moment. I have loved the series as a whole and Murderbot in particular - her desire to just be an introvert and do her own thing without interacting too much with humans is one I rather identify with.
Can I ask what made you use "her" for Murderbot?
I find it fascinating when people use binary pronouns, not from any place of judgement, I think it comes from our own perceptions of the character (and discomfort with the use of it/its with people ). And I'm curious if it was intentional or incidental or what! /gen
What does this mean?
"/genuine question", as in they are asking a serious question, not joking. Is how my kids use it, anyway.
Yep, just indicating it isn't sarcastic or ill-intended.
It's a tone indicator meaning "genuine"
After a quick check through and Google, this is a straight-up 'whoops' on my part. Though I am not sure where or when the mental association took place, I must have somehow started thinking of Murderbot as a female-leaning character, when in fact I just confirmed that Murderbot is non-gendered.
So, unconscious mental bias on my part I guess? That or memory failure as I read quite a lot and my have cross-associated
herdamn it I did it again their character with some other character.You're good! I think I leaned female before listening to the male audiobook narrator, and have now listened and read multiple times so I have fully internalized "it"
I am trying to remember whether any pronouns are used for it when it masquerades as a security consultant.
However I think "agender" is an accurate description.
Maybe this was it? I know ART set up that identity, but I can't remember if ART added gender identity. I could see them doing that just to fuck with Murderbot.
Are you accusing an Asshole Research Transport of being... Gasp an asshole?
But yeah I can't recall if Rin is binary gendered at all. Murderbot certainly doesn't gender itself but maybe the others do.
Ah damn I've only read the first and second in the series. Completely forgot about it, even though I enjoyed it. Will add this to the line of stuff to consume while flying this December.
It's been a while since I read it, so I don't really have anything clever to say about it. But I've only read the first four, so thanks for reminding me. I was looking for my next read.
Listened to the first one and it seemed good enough i'll continue it eventually. I do wonder how well they can keep hammering home the concept though.
The plot pivots as Murderbot gets more opportunities and meets more people/bots/constructs
I tried to read the first one and couldn't make it through. Martha Wells is one of my favorite authors too, so I was a little surprised to bounce off it. Most of my favorites from her are early works, like Death of the Necromancer and City of Bones though, so maybe her style has changed too much for me.