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Review: The Green Lantern: Season Two #8
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Preview: Rorschach #1
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DC and Marvel duke it out in new ‘Slugfest’ documentary on Quibi
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Archie Comics to partner with Webtoon for new online comics
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Comics: Old-school distance-learning tools
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Archie Comics titles to release day-and-date on comiXology Unlimited
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DC Universe rebranding as comics-centric platform
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Comixology releases over 200 issues of Black Panther comics for free
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Black Panther titles are free on Comixology
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Syfy on what the new DC implosion means for the comics publisher
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Gary Larson - The Far Side cartoonist - Posts new work
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The Far Side - A new online era is coming!
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"Knull is Coming" - Marvel missing the fact that fantasy names can be words in other languages
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We apologize for publishing Darkseid’s anti-life equation
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This month, Marvel Unlimited has a free digital selection of prolific Black creator-led comics
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DC Comics cuts ties with Diamond Comic Distributors
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Now is a great time to start reading Gunnerkrigg Court
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Cast revealed for Audible's audio drama adaptation of the first three Sandman graphic novels, releasing July 15
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How Marvelman changed superheroes
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New DC comic book superhero Thylacine is an Indigenous Australian from the Pilbara
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Marvel Unlimited now offering free access to iconic comic book stories
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AWA Studios launches digital version of comics with WEBTOON
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Hoopla offering Bonus Borrows - 1000+ selection of books that do not count against your borrowing credit
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Comixology and Kindle Unlimited offering two month free trials
Comixology: https://comixology.com/unlimited Kindle:...
Comixology: https://comixology.com/unlimited
Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/promoLanding?tag=ter000-20&ascsubtag=d9489bc654b311eabfd92ecf0bfff0bf0INT&promoCode=7cad7d39-c2cf-4e3d-9b17-4ebafbb03a415 votes -
Star Wars: The High Republic - A new era of stories in books and comics, set 200 years before The Phantom Menace
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Dan Didio no longer at DC Comics
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The Sandman comic series has probably been the strongest influence on my life in recent times. Does this resonate?
Written by Neil Gaiman and illustrated by various brilliant artists, The Sandman series has definitely had an enlightening and positive influence on my life. Much like Dream will say, it feels...
Written by Neil Gaiman and illustrated by various brilliant artists, The Sandman series has definitely had an enlightening and positive influence on my life. Much like Dream will say, it feels like the comic speaks true words.
For me — and I struggle with having had no role model — this comic series provides exactly that, in a way.I wonder, whether people here have read it, or bits of it, and what their opinions are.
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GANfield: A Neural Network's Garfield Comics Animation
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Sandman to Hark! A Vagrant: The best comics of the decade
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The New Far Side site is up!
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Marvel opens the door to a new magical saga with 'Strange Academy'
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Ray Bradbury: Comic Book Hero
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Art Spiegelman: Golden age superheroes were shaped by the rise of fascism
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J. Michael Straczynski reveals painful origin story in Becoming Superman
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Goodbye, Alan Moore: the king of comics bows out
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MAD Magazine will mostly cease producing new content, and its availability will be reduced
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Zach Weinersmith, the cartoonist behind Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal and co-author of SOONISH, does a Q&A
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Webcomics: An oral history
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Tildistas, do you read or have you read any webcomics?
as an offshoot of this topic, i'm interested to see if any of you folks read/were previously big into webcomics. the last time we apparently had this question was about ten months ago and...
as an offshoot of this topic, i'm interested to see if any of you folks read/were previously big into webcomics. the last time we apparently had this question was about ten months ago and obviously the site's grown quite a bit since then, so i'm sure there will be plenty of new answers.
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The Joker's Big Secret
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Zach Weinersmith (SMBC Comics) Teams Up With Bryan Caplan on a Book Arguing for Open Borders
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In France, comic books are serious business
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First Muslim superhero returns after seventy years – just in time to take down a few Nazis
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Stan Lee, Marvel Comics' real-life superhero, dies at 95
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Humble Book Bundle: Forbidden Books (supporting Banned Books Week 2018)
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How Marvel ruined Wonder Woman! - Weird comic book history explained
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'I just expected better': Reimagining a Muslim female superhero
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The issue with modernizing stories: representation in The Killing Joke (book vs. movie)
I've very loosely applying the title I used in yesterday's post because quite honestly, I can't even call what they did with the movie a modernization. Intro Old stories are always being updated...
I've very loosely applying the title I used in yesterday's post because quite honestly, I can't even call what they did with the movie a modernization.
Intro
Old stories are always being updated for lots of reasons, ranging from trying to appeal to new audiences to correcting toxic depictions to fitting better to the current social or political climate and more. There's nothing new there. However, one thing I find a bit odd lately, as in the last five years or so, is that a lot of this modernization is actually done pretty poorly in main stream media. We see more forced diversity, queerbaiting, and generally bad storytelling.
There will be spoilers for both.
Batman: The Killing Joke by Alan Moore (1988)
This is probably my least liked batman comic that I still recommend fans read.
It's one of the few Joker origin stories and have impacted the tone of Batman since. It's honestly the story I think of whenever I'm thinking of Batman and the Joker's relationship, and makes Joker the all-time greatest DC villain.And of course, through the paralysis of Barbara Gordon (Batgirl), we get one of the strongest female heros in DC - Oracle.
The Killing Joke is infamous for adding Batgirl to the list of Women in Refrigerators. The treatment of women, specifically Batgirl, is probably the most easily agreed upon aspect to modernize. She was pulled into this story without much thought on the effects of the character before or after.
Batman: The Killing Joke (2016)
When details about this movie was in the works, it was hinted (and then confirmed) that about half an hour will be added to the beginning of the movie and better flesh out Barbara Gordon. This was exciting. The end result was disappointing almost to the point of offense.
The additional time was devoted to Barbara debating with her "gay best friend" (who is every stereotype that phrase can embody) how her "boss" (Batman) doesn't respect her and that she should just quit. Also comes with a scene where she insists on being heard, is aggressive and then has sex with Batman. Yeah...I can't even truly describe how bad it was... (I'm just glad tickets were sold out at the theater so I didn't have to pay money to see it. I borrowed it from the library for anyone wondering.)
The quitting thing in particular really bothered me. Barbara is one of the few heros in the DC universe that does not have a tragic back story. She chose to be Batgirl for the same reason someone chooses to be a cop in a corrupt city like Gotham. In the animated series and in Adam West's Batman, Barbara became Batgirl independently. She wasn't seeking approval or permission.
Enough of the rant...why it didn't work? Ultimately, it was a lack of respect in general. There was a feeling all around that the team was asked to modernize, but they themselves weren't convinced. The end result was what you would expect a bunch of closed minded straight guys to write. Obviously no research was done to better understand gay men or women. They were ultimately not treated as real people. There was no research on Batgirl herself, and this includes watching Adam West's Batman, or reading any comics with Batgirl or Oracle.
Final thoughts
The sad thing is, they had a chance to really add to the original story. I would have love to see Batgirl in her prime. Show how strong and capable of a hero she was before she was paralysis and emphasize the loss Batman and Gotham will feel from loosing Batgirl. Show Barbara's determination in perhaps a little Oracle origin story. She's very smart, let's see some of that. Show her dealing with her own loss while still carrying a duty.
Edit to add: I would also drop the gay best friend. In the new 52, Barbara's roommate is trans and they build a real friendship before she's comfortable enough to tell Barbara. Steal directly from that!
What are your thoughts? Any other comic adaptations that stood out for you? (There are so many!)
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'Disgrace and shame': Alan Moore points to Boris Johnson in Grenfell fire comic
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