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Anyone else have a Microsoft Surface?

What do you guys have to say about Microsoft's attempt to marry hardware and software?

33 comments

  1. [4]
    MindsRedMill
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    I have a surface pro 3 I've just replaced as my main portable but am keeping for household use. It was my first non Mac portable and really rather good. I was just ultimately unhappy with the type...

    I have a surface pro 3 I've just replaced as my main portable but am keeping for household use. It was my first non Mac portable and really rather good. I was just ultimately unhappy with the type cover for more than super light use, and the new SP is really underwhelming. Looked at surface book but cost too much so went for a Yoga 920

    6 votes
    1. [3]
      efraimbart
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      If your only concern was the type cover the surface book would make you happy, but the price is steep as you said.

      If your only concern was the type cover the surface book would make you happy, but the price is steep as you said.

      1. [2]
        MindsRedMill
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        That and the detachable thing seemed odd. The yoga is very nice though

        That and the detachable thing seemed odd. The yoga is very nice though

        1 vote
        1. efraimbart
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          I would love to use the detachable part but find no use for it (aside from dual booting Android on occasion), it doesn't even register in my mind most of the time.

          I would love to use the detachable part but find no use for it (aside from dual booting Android on occasion), it doesn't even register in my mind most of the time.

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    ReGenesis
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    It's pretty good! Although sometimes the tablet mode gets activated automatically, rendering the keyboard functionless and it takes me a min to switch it back. Otherwise 9/10

    It's pretty good! Although sometimes the tablet mode gets activated automatically, rendering the keyboard functionless and it takes me a min to switch it back. Otherwise 9/10

    3 votes
    1. efraimbart
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      I've never experienced that (Surface Book), but I have experienced similar things with the dock suddenly reconnecting and readjusting all my screens. I don't think my keyboard stops working in...

      I've never experienced that (Surface Book), but I have experienced similar things with the dock suddenly reconnecting and readjusting all my screens.

      I don't think my keyboard stops working in tablet mode BTW.

  3. [4]
    OlKingCole
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    Have the SP3. It is the first computer I have ever owned where I have thought to myself "Self, I really like using this thing. It's beautiful, and worth the extra money!" All my previous computers...

    Have the SP3. It is the first computer I have ever owned where I have thought to myself "Self, I really like using this thing. It's beautiful, and worth the extra money!"

    All my previous computers were budget machines though, so take that for what it's worth.

    3 votes
    1. [3]
      efraimbart
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      How do you feel about the software working with the hardware?

      How do you feel about the software working with the hardware?

      1. [2]
        OlKingCole
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        Pretty damn solid integration.

        Pretty damn solid integration.

        1 vote
        1. efraimbart
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          That's how I hoped it would be for me, but I've been having plenty of issues with the software.

          That's how I hoped it would be for me, but I've been having plenty of issues with the software.

  4. [4]
    Ten
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    No but I've wanted one of the Surface Pro's forever and this is going to sound silly (and maybe a bit selfish), but I wanted one just to mainly use as a drawing tablet because I can load the full...

    No but I've wanted one of the Surface Pro's forever and this is going to sound silly (and maybe a bit selfish), but I wanted one just to mainly use as a drawing tablet because I can load the full versions of Photoshop and any other program on there. I have a Wacom tablet and it's so hard for me to get used to the disconnect between the tablet and the screen.. like, I can't draw anything with it and I've always dreamed of getting a good Surface Pro for years.. I could play my steam library on it which would be super useful as I spend most of my time now laying in bed. They are beautiful and wonderful devices.

    2 votes
    1. [3]
      efraimbart
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      Maybe try/borrow one for a bit to see if it lives up to your idea of it, and then (re)consider.

      Maybe try/borrow one for a bit to see if it lives up to your idea of it, and then (re)consider.

      1. [2]
        Ten
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        Can't. I literally cannot. And if I did, I would not return it to the person.

        Maybe try/borrow one for a bit

        Can't.

        I literally cannot.

        And if I did, I would not return it to the person.

        1 vote
        1. efraimbart
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          I know the feeling.

          And if I did, I would not return it to the person.

          I know the feeling.

          1 vote
  5. [2]
    Pottsunami
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    I have a surface 4. It's the cheaper version and it's mostly great and at a great price. My qualm with Microsoft is that their app store is God awful. I mean terrible. It has next to none of the...

    I have a surface 4. It's the cheaper version and it's mostly great and at a great price. My qualm with Microsoft is that their app store is God awful. I mean terrible. It has next to none of the apps that both Android and Apple have.

    2 votes
    1. efraimbart
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      Not to mention that there are Windows apps and Desktop apps or something...

      Not to mention that there are Windows apps and Desktop apps or something...

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    jgb
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    I used a Surface Pro 1 with Ubuntu for a while until it died on me - it wasn't perfect by any means but I did enjoy using it and it was impressively powerful. Touch gestures wern't perfect on...

    I used a Surface Pro 1 with Ubuntu for a while until it died on me - it wasn't perfect by any means but I did enjoy using it and it was impressively powerful. Touch gestures wern't perfect on Ubuntu, but they worked reasonably well, and the screen was great. The keyboard was mediocre, but tolerable for note-taking and hacking together smaller programs.

    1 vote
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      efraimbart
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      Was installing Ubuntu due to a need, or just lack of interest in windows?

      Was installing Ubuntu due to a need, or just lack of interest in windows?

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        jgb
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        I far, far, prefer Linux to Windows - to the point that I find the latter intolerable.

        I far, far, prefer Linux to Windows - to the point that I find the latter intolerable.

        1 vote
        1. efraimbart
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          Windows can be a pretty inconsistent experience, but it's necessary for what I do. I was hoping the Surface Book would change that, but it appears not to be the case.

          Windows can be a pretty inconsistent experience, but it's necessary for what I do. I was hoping the Surface Book would change that, but it appears not to be the case.

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    Qis
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    My partner bought one this year for $700 to replace her old laptop and it is a sufficient machine. I use it to write after she's gone to bed because my keyboard is incredibly loud, and for this...

    My partner bought one this year for $700 to replace her old laptop and it is a sufficient machine. I use it to write after she's gone to bed because my keyboard is incredibly loud, and for this purpose it is useful. Beyond that, though, Windows 10 is an intrusive and uncomfortable tool on the tablet and she has asked for my help in disabling many of its features.

    I like the pen. It's clicky in a nice way.

    1 vote
    1. efraimbart
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      Windows 10... Windows 10 forced an update on my surface which corrupted my BCD (boot configuration data).

      Windows 10... Windows 10 forced an update on my surface which corrupted my BCD (boot configuration data).

    2. DonQuixote
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      I have an old Samsung ATIV SmartPC and made sure it came with Windows8 then upgraded to 8.1 I can't stand Windows10 on a tablet. Now that this one is on it's way out, thinking of getting an ipad...

      I have an old Samsung ATIV SmartPC and made sure it came with Windows8 then upgraded to 8.1 I can't stand Windows10 on a tablet. Now that this one is on it's way out, thinking of getting an ipad pro with stylus.

  8. semitones
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    I also have a SP3. I can echo others saying it really does feel like a beautiful and well working machine which I did not expect. I have Windows 10 and I mostly don't notice it anymore, however...

    I also have a SP3. I can echo others saying it really does feel like a beautiful and well working machine which I did not expect.

    I have Windows 10 and I mostly don't notice it anymore, however I'm not sure how many of its "features" I've disabled.

    My biggest gripes are that its "tablet mode" is downright unusable. It has none of the touch-friendly features of a true mobile operating system like Android or iOS. And they recently removed the only half-decent part which was the split on-screen keyboard.

    Secondly the power button can only trigger an immediate shutdown, or do nothing. It can't ask you if you'd like to shut down. I've pushed it thinking it was the volume button many times, but not enough to disable it.

    Also recently it developed a crack in the screen and I don't know how hard that will be to fix, but it's growing. I tend to keep it in backpacks a lot though, and I'm sure it's fallen a few times (some of the corners are dented) but it had really stood up to a lot.

    I like the drawing ability of it for what it's worth.

    I don't think I've used many of the windows 10 specific apps except for drawing.

    1 vote
  9. GillyGumbo
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    I had an original Surface Pro back when I was a Junior in College. Worked AMAZING for Math-related notes. Easy, clean writing, etc. I want to get one for my living room soon (I gave the original...

    I had an original Surface Pro back when I was a Junior in College. Worked AMAZING for Math-related notes. Easy, clean writing, etc. I want to get one for my living room soon (I gave the original to my brother when he was in college).

    1 vote
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    timtam1us
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    I am currently typing this on my 2+ year-old Surface Pro 4. I like the design, the lighter-than-notebook weight, and the full Windows experience. The tablet mode is still subpar, partly due to...

    I am currently typing this on my 2+ year-old Surface Pro 4.
    I like the design, the lighter-than-notebook weight, and the full Windows experience.
    The tablet mode is still subpar, partly due to software (Windows) and partly due to hardware (too heavy and too hot compared to iPad).
    The battery life (or lack thereof) is its weakest point.

    1 vote
    1. efraimbart
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      I always thought the weak battery life of my surface book was due to the applications I run, nice to know it's not just me.

      I always thought the weak battery life of my surface book was due to the applications I run, nice to know it's not just me.

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    jackson
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    Had an SP1. Still have it actually, but the screen literally melted off of the casing and MSFT doesn't really know or care why it happened only 3 years after purchase. They offered me a $700...

    Had an SP1. Still have it actually, but the screen literally melted off of the casing and MSFT doesn't really know or care why it happened only 3 years after purchase. They offered me a $700 refurbished SP1 replacement, when I could get an SP3 for something like $800 anyways.

    I went with a mac.

    1 vote
    1. efraimbart
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      Similarly, when a windows update corrupted my boot configuration windows support - both online and in store - said that the only thing they could do was wipe the computer clean.

      Similarly, when a windows update corrupted my boot configuration windows support - both online and in store - said that the only thing they could do was wipe the computer clean.

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    Skuld
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    I've got a Surface Pro 4, it's a very slick piece of hardware. I was surprised at how light it is, more like a notepad than a laptop. The battery life is a genuine 10 hours too. My last laptop was...

    I've got a Surface Pro 4, it's a very slick piece of hardware. I was surprised at how light it is, more like a notepad than a laptop. The battery life is a genuine 10 hours too.

    My last laptop was a massive gaming thing from 2011 - it was a bit of a quantum leap moving to this device!

    Once you've got used to using a touch screen for general computing, it makes it hard to go back to traditional displays.

    1 vote
    1. [3]
      efraimbart
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      I still haven't gotten used to using the touch screen seeing as my surface book is my primary work computer and usually docked with additional monitors, plus it's got the built in keyboard and...

      I still haven't gotten used to using the touch screen seeing as my surface book is my primary work computer and usually docked with additional monitors, plus it's got the built in keyboard and mouse which anyway gets more use than the touchscreen.

      1 vote
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        Skuld
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        How does it hold up using multiple monitors & what resolution? I was considering doing that but thought it might not be powerful enough to get any decent level of output.

        How does it hold up using multiple monitors & what resolution?

        I was considering doing that but thought it might not be powerful enough to get any decent level of output.

        1 vote
        1. efraimbart
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          I think it might depend on the specs, but I have two 1080p monitors plugged directly into the dock and one plugged in with some USB wizardry while still keeping the primary display active. The...

          I think it might depend on the specs, but I have two 1080p monitors plugged directly into the dock and one plugged in with some USB wizardry while still keeping the primary display active. The ones plugged in directly work perfectly.

          The only issue is that Windows still sucks with multiple displays especially when different resolutions, things always get wonky.

          1 vote