There are 600+ comments on Hacker News that seem to boil down to nobody (outside the moderators and core team) knows what’s going on. We will just have to be patient.
Exemplary
There are 600+ comments on Hacker News that seem to boil down to nobody (outside the moderators and core team) knows what’s going on. We will just have to be patient.
I don't know what other people's reasons are but every time I find an interesting research topic and there's some discussions on HN, the conversations are really low quality and are often about...
I don't know what other people's reasons are but every time I find an interesting research topic and there's some discussions on HN, the conversations are really low quality and are often about other stuff or "web dev bad".
Here is an example, a while ago I was doing research on how to to do multiplayer app design with collaborative undo redo. I stumbled upon Figma's solution which was really cool. I did a search on that article and the HN discussion came up but they were so incredibly pedantic and negative. snip.
That's generally been my experience every time I went there so I don't actively visit the site.
Funnily enough, it's because I thought they didn't have a collapse comment feature, which made skipping heavily commented threads incredibly hard... But of course, now that I use my eyes, I see...
Funnily enough, it's because I thought they didn't have a collapse comment feature, which made skipping heavily commented threads incredibly hard... But of course, now that I use my eyes, I see they do indeed have a collapse thread, it's just at the end of the thingy, instead of the beginning.
Because snarkily complaining about HN is trendy and makes you part of the cool clique. Some people do the exact same thing for Tildes and move on to the next site. And some people will do the...
Exemplary
Because snarkily complaining about HN is trendy and makes you part of the cool clique. Some people do the exact same thing for Tildes and move on to the next site. And some people will do the exact same thing for that site and move on to the next one.
It's tiresome. And noisy. And because @skybrian's comment vaguely said something not positive about HN, it was tagged as exemplary, when there are a plethora of comments here on Tildes that deserve the label and don't get it.
I'm sorry for going off-topic here, and I'll tag myself as such, but seriously, can we do better? Thanks.
Hi! I gave the exemplary label you disagreed with. It had nothing to do with my opinion of Hacker News. I congratulated the user for being reasonable and stating that, in the absence of...
Hi!
I gave the exemplary label you disagreed with.
It had nothing to do with my opinion of Hacker News. I congratulated the user for being reasonable and stating that, in the absence of substantial information, we should just wait.
Such a restraint is not common on the internet, and I made sure to label it exemplary because of that. Felt exemplary to me, despite being very short.
Thanks for explaining and sorry for assuming bad faith here, I assumed HotPants gave the label given the timing, my apologies. And I've been pretty fed up for a while with what seems to be a...
Thanks for explaining and sorry for assuming bad faith here, I assumed HotPants gave the label given the timing, my apologies. And I've been pretty fed up for a while with what seems to be a constant stream of (usually unwarranted) anti-HN comments here.
To explain my exemplary-related rant further: I find myself annoyed that whenever I see the label used, it's usually to prove a point. In fact to the point that I'm now jumping to conclusions when I see it... Whereas I constantly come across high quality comments here which aren't rewarded with it. And indeed I don't think my own comment was deserving of that label either. And because I tend to read Tildes comments in rare binges, I can only use my own label once every time. :/
I dunno, maybe I'm being overly nostalgic but when I started using Tildes I would fairly consistently see the label used for high quality posts and it felt to me that this fostered high quality discussion.
I think Exemplary should be reserved for comments longer than mine (or yours for that matter), but they said it was for being “reasonable and restrained”, not about Hacker News. Hacker News...
I think Exemplary should be reserved for comments longer than mine (or yours for that matter), but they said it was for being “reasonable and restrained”, not about Hacker News.
Hacker News comments can be worth reading because, even though most people commenting don’t know anything, sometimes there is a real expert. Also, sometimes the author of the original article shows up and answers questions. It’s enough to make me look. I think it’s also reasonable to skip it though, for people busier than me.
Other comment threads: /r/rust the orange site I haven't seen much discussion I'd describe as "good" anywhere. matthieum on Reddit (one of the resigning moderators) made a couple of comments...
I haven't seen much discussion I'd describe as "good" anywhere. matthieum on Reddit (one of the resigning moderators) made a couple of comments clarifying some of the structural context.
As someone who knows many of the involved people to varying degrees, I would ask that folks not jump to conclusions, especially based on the very ill-informed HN comments.
As someone who knows many of the involved people to varying degrees, I would ask that folks not jump to conclusions, especially based on the very ill-informed HN comments.
There are 600+ comments on Hacker News that seem to boil down to nobody (outside the moderators and core team) knows what’s going on. We will just have to be patient.
Thanks!
I find myself avoiding HN comments, if at all possible.
Why is that?
I don't know what other people's reasons are but every time I find an interesting research topic and there's some discussions on HN, the conversations are really low quality and are often about other stuff or "web dev bad".
Here is an example, a while ago I was doing research on how to to do multiplayer app design with collaborative undo redo. I stumbled upon Figma's solution which was really cool. I did a search on that article and the HN discussion came up but they were so incredibly pedantic and negative. snip.
That's generally been my experience every time I went there so I don't actively visit the site.
Funnily enough, it's because I thought they didn't have a collapse comment feature, which made skipping heavily commented threads incredibly hard... But of course, now that I use my eyes, I see they do indeed have a collapse thread, it's just at the end of the thingy, instead of the beginning.
Because snarkily complaining about HN is trendy and makes you part of the cool clique. Some people do the exact same thing for Tildes and move on to the next site. And some people will do the exact same thing for that site and move on to the next one.
It's tiresome. And noisy.
And because @skybrian's comment vaguely said something not positive about HN, it was tagged as exemplary, when there are a plethora of comments here on Tildes that deserve the label and don't get it.I'm sorry for going off-topic here, and I'll tag myself as such, but seriously, can we do better? Thanks.
Hi!
I gave the exemplary label you disagreed with.
It had nothing to do with my opinion of Hacker News. I congratulated the user for being reasonable and stating that, in the absence of substantial information, we should just wait.
Such a restraint is not common on the internet, and I made sure to label it exemplary because of that. Felt exemplary to me, despite being very short.
Again: 100% not about my opinion of Hacker News.
Thanks for explaining and sorry for assuming bad faith here, I assumed HotPants gave the label given the timing, my apologies. And I've been pretty fed up for a while with what seems to be a constant stream of (usually unwarranted) anti-HN comments here.
To explain my exemplary-related rant further: I find myself annoyed that whenever I see the label used, it's usually to prove a point. In fact to the point that I'm now jumping to conclusions when I see it... Whereas I constantly come across high quality comments here which aren't rewarded with it. And indeed I don't think my own comment was deserving of that label either. And because I tend to read Tildes comments in rare binges, I can only use my own label once every time. :/
I dunno, maybe I'm being overly nostalgic but when I started using Tildes I would fairly consistently see the label used for high quality posts and it felt to me that this fostered high quality discussion.
No problem. I don't have much to add, but I agree that exemplary labels are misused sometimes.
I think Exemplary should be reserved for comments longer than mine (or yours for that matter), but they said it was for being “reasonable and restrained”, not about Hacker News.
Hacker News comments can be worth reading because, even though most people commenting don’t know anything, sometimes there is a real expert. Also, sometimes the author of the original article shows up and answers questions. It’s enough to make me look. I think it’s also reasonable to skip it though, for people busier than me.
Other comment threads:
I haven't seen much discussion I'd describe as "good" anywhere. matthieum on Reddit (one of the resigning moderators) made a couple of comments clarifying some of the structural context.
As someone who knows many of the involved people to varying degrees, I would ask that folks not jump to conclusions, especially based on the very ill-informed HN comments.