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    1. User-friendly and privacy-friendly LLM experience?

      I've been thinking perhaps I'll need to get one of the desktop LLM UI. I've been out of touch with the state of the art of end user LLM as I've been exclusively using it via API, but tech-y people...

      I've been thinking perhaps I'll need to get one of the desktop LLM UI. I've been out of touch with the state of the art of end user LLM as I've been exclusively using it via API, but tech-y people (who are not developers) mostly talk about the end-user products that I lack the knowledge of.

      Ethical problems aside, the problem with non-API usage is, even if you pay, I can't find one that have better privacy policy than API. And the problem with API version is that it is not as good as the completed apps unless you want to reinvent the wheel. The apps also may include ads in the future, while API technically cannot as it would affect some downstream usecases.

      Provider Data Retention (API) Data Retention (Consumer) UI-only features
      ChatGPT Plus 30 days, no training Training opt-out, 30 days for temp. chat, unknown retention otherwise Voice, Canvas, Image generation in chat, screensharing, Mobile app
      Google AI Pro 0 72 hours if you disable history, or up to 3 years and trained upon otherwise Android assistant, Canvas, AI in Google Drive/Docs, RAG (NotebookLM), Podcast generation, Browser use (Mariner), Coding (Gemini CLI), Screensharing
      Gemini in Google Workspace See above 0-18 months, but no human review/training See above
      Claude Pro 30 days Up to 2 years (no training without opt-in) Coding, Artifact, Desktop app, RAG, MCP

      As a dual use technology, the table doesn't include the extra retention period if they detect an abuse. Additionally, if you click on thumbs up/down it may also be recorded for the provider's employee to review.

      I don't think OpenWebUI, self hosted models, etc. would suffice if they are not built to the same quality as the first party products. I know I'm probably asking for something that doesn't exists here, but at least I hope it will bring to people's attention that even if you're paying for the product you might not get the same privacy protection as API users.

      15 votes
    2. Funny output from Claude.ai: a codeblock in a question about an early rennaissance theological work

      I asked Claude for references to some ideas the ai had output earlier about a 16th century cardinal (Sadoleto). It's response was, Let me analyze the letter, and then this: async function...

      I asked Claude for references to some ideas the ai had output earlier about a 16th century cardinal (Sadoleto). It's response was, Let me analyze the letter, and then this:

      async function searchForSadoletoLetter() {
        try {
          const files = ['sadoleto_letter.txt', 'sadoleto.txt', 'sadoleto_to_geneva.txt', 'letter_to_geneva.txt'];
          
          for (const filename of files) {
            try {
              const content = await window.fs.readFile(filename, { encoding: 'utf8' });
              console.log(`Found file: ${filename}`);
              console.log("First 500 characters:");
              console.log(content.substring(0, 500));
              return content;
            } catch (err) {
              // File not found, try the next one
            }
          }
          console.log("Could not find any files containing Sadoleto's letter");
          return null;
        } catch (err) {
          console.error("Error searching for files:", err);
          return null;
        }
      }
      
      const content = await searchForSadoletoLetter();
      
      // Since we don't have the letter available as a file, let's search for published versions online
      console.log("The letter isn't available as a file. We would need to rely on scholarly knowledge about Sadoleto's letter to Geneva (1539).");
      console.log("Sadoleto's letter was published in 'A Reformation Debate: Sadoleto's Letter to the Genevans and Calvin's Reply' (ed. John C. Olin).");
      

      This strikes me as odd? Did Claude write a script to generate its own response? Have coders put something like this in as a gaurdrail?

      edit: details about earlier convo

      15 votes
    3. Play Chess against GPT-2

      @theshawwn: I am preparing to release a notebook where you can play chess vs GPT-2. If anyone wants to help beta test it: 1. visit https://t.co/CpWrFvtnY2 2. open in playground mode 3. click Runtime -> Run All 4. Scroll to the bottommost cell and wait 6 minutes If you get stuck, tell me.

      5 votes