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Saudi Arabia’s secret plan to keep us hooked on oil

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  1. bushbear
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    Love me some climate town. Glad he went in depth on this topic as I'd seen talk of Saudi Arabia doing some evil things during cop but hadn't yet delved into it.

    Love me some climate town. Glad he went in depth on this topic as I'd seen talk of Saudi Arabia doing some evil things during cop but hadn't yet delved into it.

    6 votes
  2. [6]
    cfabbro
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    I'm sure the information in this video is interesting and relevant to my interests, but I couldn't make it past the first few minutes because of how obnoxious (IMO) the video presentation style...

    I'm sure the information in this video is interesting and relevant to my interests, but I couldn't make it past the first few minutes because of how obnoxious (IMO) the video presentation style was. It reminds me of another channel I'm not a fan of despite generally agreeing with their stances, Some More News. But it did spur me to look into the "oil demand sustainability program", which brought me to this MotherJones article:
    Saudi Arabia Has a Plan to “Hook” Poor Nations on Oil

    And there was also this climate-reporting.org article listed in the video description as well:
    Cheap cars, supersonic jets and floating power plants: Undercover in Saudi Arabia’s secretive program to keep the world burning oil

    For anyone else like me that would prefer to read about this, rather than watch this video.

    15 votes
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      updawg
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      Similarly, here's a link to the newsletter Climate Town put out with more in-depth info for this video: https://open.substack.com/pub/climatetown/p/just-do-it-cop28 I'm really disappointed that...

      Similarly, here's a link to the newsletter Climate Town put out with more in-depth info for this video:
      https://open.substack.com/pub/climatetown/p/just-do-it-cop28

      I'm really disappointed that you disliked this video. Climate Town is one of my favorite channels. Their videos are very educational but they're also comedic. I've learned a lot that goes beyond the typical reddit-level "we gotta just do x!!!" that, sadly, I also often see on Tildes. I also listen to Rollie's podcast (along with Nicole Conlan, a writer for The Daily Show). They're childhood/high schoolhood friends so they have a good energy and the content is obviously similar to the YouTube channel (they don't cover the same topics).

      I get that everyone has their preferences (and they would definitely understand: their newsletter's unsubscribe button is actually at the top of the email before any content), but, like I said at the start of the comment, it's still disappointing to hear someone not enjoy something that I think is great, ya know?

      Edit: to be fair to you, this video is much...simpler than his other videos. I'd recommend checking them out if any topics strike your fancy.

      7 votes
      1. Delgalar
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        Personallly for my mid forties self, I can't get past the meme-ification of the information. I get that it sucks in a lot of people and the YouTube algo gods demand it for views, but for someone...

        Personallly for my mid forties self, I can't get past the meme-ification of the information. I get that it sucks in a lot of people and the YouTube algo gods demand it for views, but for someone who spent half his life raised on high quality long form articles before the internet really took off, I find it's very distracting.

        Having said that, the more ways it's said that carbon is bad for our future well being, the more people will get behind the message. I'm glad you enjoyed it and thank you for sharing it!

        15 votes
      2. [2]
        cfabbro
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        Sorry, I know how disappointing it is when someone poopoos on something you recommended. :( But this video unfortunately just wasn't my cup of tea, as far as humor goes. And when it comes to...

        Sorry, I know how disappointing it is when someone poopoos on something you recommended. :( But this video unfortunately just wasn't my cup of tea, as far as humor goes. And when it comes to serious topics like climate change, I simply prefer my informational material to be a bit drier, and get straight to the point without cracking a joke and showcasing a meme every 10 seconds. His intentionally cartoonish/zany vocal inflection also really got under my skin too. Nothing against you, and I don't begrudge anyone that enjoyed it. But it's just not for me.

        If it's any consolation, I did quickly skim through a few other videos on the channel, and they seemed way less annoying to me, since his tone was a tad more serious. And the submitted video did provide me with a good jumping off point to dig into a bunch of related articles, so I still appreciate you posting it.

        p.s. Also, don't get me wrong, I totally understand that style of presentation's appeal, and if it gets more people (especially younger people) invested in the subject, and helps them stay informed, I'm all for it. Same goes with Some More News. They're simply a bit too much for me.

        1 vote
        1. updawg
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          Yeah, it's probably just a shame that a video that requires so much research was so time-sensitive. On a short timeline, you basically have to choose between deep research and a high production...

          Yeah, it's probably just a shame that a video that requires so much research was so time-sensitive. On a short timeline, you basically have to choose between deep research and a high production quality, which resulted in it just being a comedian presenting from his desktop editing station.

          1 vote
    2. chocobean
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      Really goes to show that we're not gonna survive until all of us survive. If the citizens of richer countries don't want this evil plan to succeed, we have to lobby our governments to not only...

      Really goes to show that we're not gonna survive until all of us survive. If the citizens of richer countries don't want this evil plan to succeed, we have to lobby our governments to not only implement sustainable solutions for ourselves, but also to fund sustainable solutions for the poorest of our brethren nations.

      [Effectiveness of lobbying by citizens when the government officials have so much to personally gain from ignoring us aside].

      1 vote