I'm looking them up and they don't look particularly expensive. Maybe the ones I'm finding (even when trying to avoid Chinese crap) are just domestic crap?
I'm looking them up and they don't look particularly expensive. Maybe the ones I'm finding (even when trying to avoid Chinese crap) are just domestic crap?
While I would love an electric motorcycle, and own an EV as my daily driver, my concern is that they won't provide the range that westerners expect when doing long rides. For commuting to work,...
While I would love an electric motorcycle, and own an EV as my daily driver, my concern is that they won't provide the range that westerners expect when doing long rides. For commuting to work, they're great, but in the US and Canada most people don't want to commute via motorcycle and state laws are only just now changing to be more motorcycle-friendly (lane-splitting, among others). I think the real benefit of electric motorcycles will be felt in Southeast Asia and more progressive cities in the west that don't care about status symbols. So I am hopeful that BEVs make a big impact there, where so many very small ICE vehicles are built and sold.
Even beyond the software safety concerns of brands like Zero, I think we also need to do more work to create electric bikes that are safe and reliable for those highway-speed commutes and short weekend rides. We might be a couple of years away from that and that's without any additional regulatory red-tape. Even cars don't have their computer systems completely figured out (see the recent recalls by VW and GM).
I read a couple posts (anecdotal, I know) about people having issues with their bikes after or during firmware updates. Allegedly there were also a couple instances where people who had purchased...
I read a couple posts (anecdotal, I know) about people having issues with their bikes after or during firmware updates. Allegedly there were also a couple instances where people who had purchased OTA firmware updates had been forced to pull over to the side of the road because the bike had decided to apply the firmware update (the person alleged loss of throttle control). I'm not sure how true those anecdotes are, but it's similar to another issue they've had with their firmware where bikes were initiating updates without enough battery charge and basically bricking themselves. That sounds like they just haven't thought things through very well.
From what I've heard they've also recently still been struggling with providing accurate range estimates and riders have reported that some of their bikes have some serious build quality issues.
Study was done by the International Energy Agency
I hope that means we can have some much cheaper electric motorcycles. I'd love one, but currently, most cost a fortune each.
I'm looking them up and they don't look particularly expensive. Maybe the ones I'm finding (even when trying to avoid Chinese crap) are just domestic crap?
While I would love an electric motorcycle, and own an EV as my daily driver, my concern is that they won't provide the range that westerners expect when doing long rides. For commuting to work, they're great, but in the US and Canada most people don't want to commute via motorcycle and state laws are only just now changing to be more motorcycle-friendly (lane-splitting, among others). I think the real benefit of electric motorcycles will be felt in Southeast Asia and more progressive cities in the west that don't care about status symbols. So I am hopeful that BEVs make a big impact there, where so many very small ICE vehicles are built and sold.
Even beyond the software safety concerns of brands like Zero, I think we also need to do more work to create electric bikes that are safe and reliable for those highway-speed commutes and short weekend rides. We might be a couple of years away from that and that's without any additional regulatory red-tape. Even cars don't have their computer systems completely figured out (see the recent recalls by VW and GM).
What issues are you talking about?
I read a couple posts (anecdotal, I know) about people having issues with their bikes after or during firmware updates. Allegedly there were also a couple instances where people who had purchased OTA firmware updates had been forced to pull over to the side of the road because the bike had decided to apply the firmware update (the person alleged loss of throttle control). I'm not sure how true those anecdotes are, but it's similar to another issue they've had with their firmware where bikes were initiating updates without enough battery charge and basically bricking themselves. That sounds like they just haven't thought things through very well.
From what I've heard they've also recently still been struggling with providing accurate range estimates and riders have reported that some of their bikes have some serious build quality issues.
Well that's awesome news.
I wonder what Putin will do when his oil becomes even more worthless.
Hopefully we tax the bejesus out of this glut so that prices don't decrease.