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Flood damage cuts all rail access to Canada's largest port of Vancouver

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  1. [5]
    streblo
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    So I live in BC and it's pretty crazy right now. I have friends stuck in Vancouver with no real timetable on when they'll be able to return. They don't have a passport, so detouring through the...

    So I live in BC and it's pretty crazy right now.

    I have friends stuck in Vancouver with no real timetable on when they'll be able to return. They don't have a passport, so detouring through the States is not an option. They could find somewhere to park their car and fly home, or drive to the top of Vancouver Island and take a small Ferry across and drive all the way back down, which is over 24 hours of straight travel. Also, because this is the only in-Canada route open, it's surely going to be packed with long waits for the ferry.

    Locally, the grocery stores are in the process of switching over to Alberta-based suppliers but people have predictably panicked and all meat/produce/dairy shelves in the grocery stores are completely barren. I'm sure that will be rectified shortly but it's kind of spooky to see.

    In the Fraser Valley the flooding is still ongoing. A pumping station on a dike is at risk of failing. This region used to be a lake and if the pumps fail it may become one again. Here's a local news article.

    10 votes
    1. [3]
      streblo
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      Update: The United States has agreed to let Canadians with no passport drive through to bypass the flooding and drive home, so people are on there way home now.

      Update: The United States has agreed to let Canadians with no passport drive through to bypass the flooding and drive home, so people are on there way home now.

      7 votes
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        babypuncher
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        How do we know they won't take advantage of our generosity and stay here to enjoy our bloated and grotesquely overpriced healthcare system?

        How do we know they won't take advantage of our generosity and stay here to enjoy our bloated and grotesquely overpriced healthcare system?

        6 votes
        1. streblo
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          I know you're joking but it seems probable that at least one Canadian isn't going think about picking up travel insurance for their drive home, get in some sort of accident, and bankrupt...

          I know you're joking but it seems probable that at least one Canadian isn't going think about picking up travel insurance for their drive home, get in some sort of accident, and bankrupt themselves trying to get home on what should have been a simple trip. :/

          5 votes
    2. Wes
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      That's been my experience too. I went shopping today, arriving at 7am on a Wednesday. Normally the store is completely dead at this time, but it was buzzing. No produce, no toilet paper. I just...

      Locally, the grocery stores are in the process of switching over to Alberta-based suppliers but people have predictably panicked and all meat/produce/dairy shelves in the grocery stores are completely barren.

      That's been my experience too. I went shopping today, arriving at 7am on a Wednesday. Normally the store is completely dead at this time, but it was buzzing. No produce, no toilet paper. I just bought the basics and got out quickly.

      Guess I'll be eating canned and frozen food for a while.

      6 votes
  2. [5]
    drannex
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    Is it me, or is absolutely worrisome to see so many built-up logistical and infrastructure issues in the past ~2 years and not really any hope for change? We've had the canal problem, all of the...

    Is it me, or is absolutely worrisome to see so many built-up logistical and infrastructure issues in the past ~2 years and not really any hope for change?

    We've had the canal problem, all of the port issues, wide scale chip shortage, inf***ion issues, and more all happening virtually at once, I realize we have a global pandemic raging at the moment, but I don't remember a similar issue for the two other 'once in a lifetime recessions/depressions' I've had to live through.

    9 votes
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      1. MimicSquid
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        I would definitely read more along these lines if you fleshed it out further.

        I would definitely read more along these lines if you fleshed it out further.

        5 votes
      2. skybrian
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        It seems like the only kind of apartment where you can safely burn things for heat would be an older one with a fireplace? Even using a gas stove for heat is dangerous due to carbon monoxide....

        It seems like the only kind of apartment where you can safely burn things for heat would be an older one with a fireplace? Even using a gas stove for heat is dangerous due to carbon monoxide.

        Relying on other people actually is a survival strategy, one you could prepare for by making arrangements in advance. There are two kinds of disasters: those where you can’t leave, and those where you can’t stay. Having somewhere to go, like friends or relatives somewhere you can get to, seems like a fine idea. Maybe evacuate to the ranch before big storms?

        4 votes
      3. [2]
        hairypotter
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        I ask this in the most non-accusatory way possible: how do you feel about the homesteading/"prepper" approach being a sort of "fuck you, I got mine" mentality in that it could only support...

        I ask this in the most non-accusatory way possible: how do you feel about the homesteading/"prepper" approach being a sort of "fuck you, I got mine" mentality in that it could only support yourself and so many others compared to the total number of people in society? Do you struggle at all with the tension between working to make society as a whole more resilient and safe for all vs the priority to ensure you and your loved ones have a safe and stable future?

        3 votes
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          1. hairypotter
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            Looking forward to them and thanks for the heads up! Good luck with the meeting and paper :)

            Looking forward to them and thanks for the heads up! Good luck with the meeting and paper :)

  3. skybrian
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    From the article: […] Also: Truckers, government assure shoppers goods will get delivered despite highway closures

    From the article:

    “All rail service coming to and from the Port of Vancouver is halted because of flooding in the British Columbia interior,” said port spokesperson Matti Polychronis.

    The floods have also closed numerous highways, including all main routes to Vancouver, she said.

    Vancouver’s port moves $550 million worth of cargo each day, ranging from automobiles and containerized finished goods to essential commodities.

    The floods temporarily shut down much of the movement of wheat and canola from Canada, one of the world’s biggest grain exporters.

    […]

    The storms also forced the closure of the Trans Mountain pipeline, which takes crude oil from Alberta to the Pacific Coast. The line has a capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.

    Also: Truckers, government assure shoppers goods will get delivered despite highway closures

    5 votes