I'm glad that I got out of MtG when I was young. My cards were stolen in junior high, and I never got back into it after that foul experience. I still think it's a fun game and I'd probably play...
I'm glad that I got out of MtG when I was young. My cards were stolen in junior high, and I never got back into it after that foul experience.
I still think it's a fun game and I'd probably play it were it not for the "collectible" part of CCG. It's just too much money and/or frustration for those of us who enjoy competing. Luckily, there are plenty of other non-collectible card games out there - for example, I was seriously into Dominion for a couple years.
Dominion is a very different style of game since you don't really have a "collection" and the deckbuilding is part of the process of playing the game itself (which is why they're generally called...
Dominion is a very different style of game since you don't really have a "collection" and the deckbuilding is part of the process of playing the game itself (which is why they're generally called "deckbuilding games").
A better alternative would probably be the "Living Card Game" genre, where you still need to have a personal collection and build your deck before playing, but the cards don't come in random boosters or need to be bought individually. Whenever a new set/expansion comes out, they sell it as a single product that gives you a full playset of every card in the set. Fantasy Flight Games has a number of Living Card Games - Android: Netrunner is the only one that I've ever played myself.
Wow, this is literally me. I had a deck that, for me being a teenager on free lunch and food stamps, was pretty expensive. Someone stole one day my junior year and that was the end of my...
My cards were stolen in junior high, and I never got back into it after that foul experience.
Wow, this is literally me. I had a deck that, for me being a teenager on free lunch and food stamps, was pretty expensive. Someone stole one day my junior year and that was the end of my involvement with that game.
I wonder if you can make a game that has the collectible aspect without the "Just buy the best cards" aspect such that even at the top tier players need to work with their collections to build...
I wonder if you can make a game that has the collectible aspect without the "Just buy the best cards" aspect such that even at the top tier players need to work with their collections to build something unique.
I'm imagining something like an account on your phone associated with the gameplay elements. At the start of the game your phone verifies your account has the non-transferable game play elements represented by your physical pieces (cards, figures, etc). This could also let your figures level up or have different attributes.
My imagination now has a board with a hex grid and slots for cards. Your physical cards and figures are set in a slot where an RFID reader can identify them. Your phone and your opponent's phone plug into the board for a verification check and to track stats. The phones are also used to do calculations in game or show sensitive information.
Warhammer plus magic for a tactical collectible card game. No trading, maybe you can wager figures or cards based on individual battles. You can only buy random boosters of a figure and cards.
That's a fair point. I suppose the solution is buying specific figures and cards. The figures then develop strength based on you play with them. e.g. if you tend to use certain figures for certain...
That's a fair point.
I suppose the solution is buying specific figures and cards. The figures then develop strength based on you play with them. e.g. if you tend to use certain figures for certain tasks they'll get better at those tasks.
Specialization over time will mean that you can't just buy the latest and greatest units but you actually have to play with them to develop them into units that work well with you.
The random bags of game elements could be reserved for "draft" type matches where players must build their game out of a random set of pieces.
If you have a legible proxy with the original art so that I can glance at your board and read the game state just like real cards, I’m probably not going to be annoyed with you. If you have little...
This is worsened by the fact that many players police others for using proxies
If you have a legible proxy with the original art so that I can glance at your board and read the game state just like real cards, I’m probably not going to be annoyed with you. If you have little pieces of paper with only the card names scribbled on them on top of real cards in sleeves (or some other equally unintelligible alternative) I’m going to be annoyed.
That said, if everyone proxied every deck, WOTC would be out of business and the game would die. I’ve been an MTG player since 1995, and I am thankful that WOTC continues to develop and release new sets. If you don’t want to play MTG, that’s fine. But don’t encourage people to rip off the game. It’s hurtful to those who enjoy MTG and those who look forward to the game remaining healthy in the future.
I'm glad that I got out of MtG when I was young. My cards were stolen in junior high, and I never got back into it after that foul experience.
I still think it's a fun game and I'd probably play it were it not for the "collectible" part of CCG. It's just too much money and/or frustration for those of us who enjoy competing. Luckily, there are plenty of other non-collectible card games out there - for example, I was seriously into Dominion for a couple years.
Dominion is a very different style of game since you don't really have a "collection" and the deckbuilding is part of the process of playing the game itself (which is why they're generally called "deckbuilding games").
A better alternative would probably be the "Living Card Game" genre, where you still need to have a personal collection and build your deck before playing, but the cards don't come in random boosters or need to be bought individually. Whenever a new set/expansion comes out, they sell it as a single product that gives you a full playset of every card in the set. Fantasy Flight Games has a number of Living Card Games - Android: Netrunner is the only one that I've ever played myself.
Wow, this is literally me. I had a deck that, for me being a teenager on free lunch and food stamps, was pretty expensive. Someone stole one day my junior year and that was the end of my involvement with that game.
I wonder if you can make a game that has the collectible aspect without the "Just buy the best cards" aspect such that even at the top tier players need to work with their collections to build something unique.
I'm imagining something like an account on your phone associated with the gameplay elements. At the start of the game your phone verifies your account has the non-transferable game play elements represented by your physical pieces (cards, figures, etc). This could also let your figures level up or have different attributes.
My imagination now has a board with a hex grid and slots for cards. Your physical cards and figures are set in a slot where an RFID reader can identify them. Your phone and your opponent's phone plug into the board for a verification check and to track stats. The phones are also used to do calculations in game or show sensitive information.
Warhammer plus magic for a tactical collectible card game. No trading, maybe you can wager figures or cards based on individual battles. You can only buy random boosters of a figure and cards.
Then competitive players would just buy hundreds or thousands of boosters until they get the ones they want. That's even worse.
That's a fair point.
I suppose the solution is buying specific figures and cards. The figures then develop strength based on you play with them. e.g. if you tend to use certain figures for certain tasks they'll get better at those tasks.
Specialization over time will mean that you can't just buy the latest and greatest units but you actually have to play with them to develop them into units that work well with you.
The random bags of game elements could be reserved for "draft" type matches where players must build their game out of a random set of pieces.
If you have a legible proxy with the original art so that I can glance at your board and read the game state just like real cards, I’m probably not going to be annoyed with you. If you have little pieces of paper with only the card names scribbled on them on top of real cards in sleeves (or some other equally unintelligible alternative) I’m going to be annoyed.
That said, if everyone proxied every deck, WOTC would be out of business and the game would die. I’ve been an MTG player since 1995, and I am thankful that WOTC continues to develop and release new sets. If you don’t want to play MTG, that’s fine. But don’t encourage people to rip off the game. It’s hurtful to those who enjoy MTG and those who look forward to the game remaining healthy in the future.
How can I order the box? I haven't found a link, is it just via e-mail?