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Starfield | Launch date trailer: September 6, 2023

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  1. [2]
    Eidolon
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    Glad they pushed it out this long. Still waiting to see the recommended specs as I'm not sure if my PC will be up for it...! In any event, I won't be buying it on release and will wait for reviews.

    Glad they pushed it out this long. Still waiting to see the recommended specs as I'm not sure if my PC will be up for it...! In any event, I won't be buying it on release and will wait for reviews.

    2 votes
    1. babypuncher
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      The game is skipping last-gen consoles so I expect a sizable bump in requirements from Fallout 4. Hopefully it's not too bad.

      The game is skipping last-gen consoles so I expect a sizable bump in requirements from Fallout 4. Hopefully it's not too bad.

      1 vote
  2. [13]
    Heichou
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    I wanna be excited for this. However, it's been the only thing in the way of TES6 for years and now that it's finally out we're even closer. I do hope starfield is interesting enough to warrant a...

    I wanna be excited for this. However, it's been the only thing in the way of TES6 for years and now that it's finally out we're even closer. I do hope starfield is interesting enough to warrant a likely 70 dollar purchase, though

    2 votes
    1. streblo
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      Hard to believe the last one came out more than 11 years ago and we're still likely 5 years away. Watching this video, I was struck by how much older Todd Howard is than the last time I tuned into...

      Hard to believe the last one came out more than 11 years ago and we're still likely 5 years away.

      Watching this video, I was struck by how much older Todd Howard is than the last time I tuned into what Bethesda is up to. I wonder if he'll still be around to be the face of the franchise for TES6.

      2 votes
    2. [11]
      balooga
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      Skyrim was a monumental game for me, I played it on PS3, PS4, and PS5 and continue to enjoy it today. I don't think there's another video game that I've come anywhere close to spending as much...

      Skyrim was a monumental game for me, I played it on PS3, PS4, and PS5 and continue to enjoy it today. I don't think there's another video game that I've come anywhere close to spending as much time in, and I've been gaming since Super Mario Bros. on the NES in the '80s. Skyrim is my comfort food.

      As much as I love it, I'm highly skeptical that Bethesda can recapture what made it special. Very few of the people who created it are still with the company today. We can look to the games that they've released in the interim (namely Fallout 4 and Fallout 76) for an indicator of where they're steering their approach to game design. These games have an increased emphasis on base building, crafting, and combat action, while role-playing elements have been reduced. Those are changes for the worse IMO. I'll be interested to see if Starfield continues these trends.

      Of course, as a PlayStation gamer, the whole discussion's irrelevant now that Microsoft owns the company and will be withholding all future titles from PS release. Yes, I'm bitter about that. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hoping on some level that these games are trash just because I don't want to miss out.

      Long term, I'm optimistic about the future of Skyrim/Fallout style open-world RPGs, but I'm not expecting Bethesda to save them. Once consumer hardware reaches the point that it can handle on-device generative AI, the possibilities for sophisticated narratives — with full (synthetic) voice acting — are going to absolutely explode. We have some ground to cover still, but recent advances in this space are making me really excited about what's in store for role-playing games in the next decade.

      2 votes
      1. babypuncher
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        Fallout 4's shallow roleplaying was a product of having a fully voiced protagonist. They compensated for this by adding in the base building and improving the combat, but that obviously doesn't...

        Fallout 4's shallow roleplaying was a product of having a fully voiced protagonist. They compensated for this by adding in the base building and improving the combat, but that obviously doesn't mean much if your primary draw was the roleplaying.

        Starfield's protagonist will not have full voice acting, so hopefully that means they are bringing back some of that depth.

        It should have been possible to find some middle ground though. Mass Effect managed to pull off having three full games worth of a fully voiced protagonist with a pretty dense decision tree, though it does still end up feeling more like a "choose your own adventure" book than something like New Vegas did.

        4 votes
      2. streblo
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        The exact same could be said (in fact it was said many, many times) about Morrowind to Oblivion or Oblivion to Skyrim. I won't deny the games have gotten simpler and watered down as the audience...

        As much as I love it, I'm highly skeptical that Bethesda can recapture what made it special. Very few of the people who created it are still with the company today. We can look to the games that they've released in the interim (namely Fallout 4 and Fallout 76) for an indicator of where they're steering their approach to game design. These games have an increased emphasis on base building, crafting, and combat action, while role-playing elements have been reduced. Those are changes for the worse IMO. I'll be interested to see if Starfield continues these trends.

        The exact same could be said (in fact it was said many, many times) about Morrowind to Oblivion or Oblivion to Skyrim.

        I won't deny the games have gotten simpler and watered down as the audience has gotten larger, but I still expect, much like the rest, I'll enjoy the overall package if it ever finally arrives.

        3 votes
      3. [8]
        mat
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        Oh, did that happen? I missed that. Bit rude but never mind. I don't think us Playstation peasants are going to be missing out on much.

        Microsoft owns the company and will be withholding all future titles from PS release.

        Oh, did that happen? I missed that. Bit rude but never mind. I don't think us Playstation peasants are going to be missing out on much.

        1 vote
        1. [7]
          cfabbro
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          Eh. Sony does the same with the games developed by the studios they own too. But more than that, Sony is actually accused by MS of paying other developers for "blocking rights" in order to keep...

          Eh. Sony does the same with the games developed by the studios they own too. But more than that, Sony is actually accused by MS of paying other developers for "blocking rights" in order to keep their games off Xbox... and if true, I would say that's quite a bit more "rude" than MS withholding Bethesda's upcoming games from PS. Ultimately, both companies are pretty anti-consumer though.

          2 votes
          1. [6]
            mat
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            Sure, Sony are bad too. They're all bad. But I've been a Playstation kid since... well, since I was a kid (and the Playstation in question was the PS1 because I am Old). It's also rather cheaper...

            Sure, Sony are bad too. They're all bad. But I've been a Playstation kid since... well, since I was a kid (and the Playstation in question was the PS1 because I am Old). It's also rather cheaper and less hassle than a gaming PC.

            2 votes
            1. [5]
              cfabbro
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              Yeah, I get the appeal of consoles, and wasn't trying to rag on you. So sorry if it came across that way. I'm personally a PC person through and through though. I love building and tinkering with...

              Yeah, I get the appeal of consoles, and wasn't trying to rag on you. So sorry if it came across that way. I'm personally a PC person through and through though. I love building and tinkering with them. But I totally understand that's not for everyone. :)

              1. [4]
                mat
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                Ah, no worries, I didn't for a moment think you were having a go a me! Getting a bit OT but I used to do the PC gaming thing too - I'm ancient enough to have played before graphics accelerator...

                Ah, no worries, I didn't for a moment think you were having a go a me!

                Getting a bit OT but I used to do the PC gaming thing too - I'm ancient enough to have played before graphics accelerator boards - but in recent years the amount of spare time I have for games is so small I just need something I can turn on and play right away. My tinkering is much more at the low power electronic and SOC/SBA stuff instead, which I can sort of justify in the service of "usefulness" (because I definitely needed to spend a week of evenings building a wifi-enabled doorbell, right?)

                On the other hand my kid picked up his first PS controller the other week so there may be more time as long as I'm co-oping a Lego game with a five year old and d'yknow what, I'm so excited about that..

                2 votes
                1. [3]
                  cfabbro
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                  I'm also an ancient too. I still remember when most PCs were basically just consoles in all but name, and monitors were still cathode rays... way back in the Commodore days. And I also remember...

                  I'm also an ancient too. I still remember when most PCs were basically just consoles in all but name, and monitors were still cathode rays... way back in the Commodore days. And I also remember the days before NVIDIA, and how excited I was to get my very first 3dfx Voodoo card!

                  p.s. I play the Lego games too, with my nephew. And there is absolutely no shame in getting excited for that either since they're super fun even for us old farts! :P

                  1 vote
                  1. [2]
                    mat
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                    My family's first PC was an Intel 8086 with an 8MB hard drive and that was a LOT. It took up an entire 5.25 bay and I don't think anything does that any more. I'm not sure that size bay even still...

                    My family's first PC was an Intel 8086 with an 8MB hard drive and that was a LOT. It took up an entire 5.25 bay and I don't think anything does that any more. I'm not sure that size bay even still exists. We did not have a colour graphics adaptor though. Played a lot of Rogue in green monochrome...

                    Before the heady days of PC gaming I used to play endless hours of Revs, Chuckie Egg and Elite on my parents BBC Micro and funnily enough I still, occasionally, play Elite on my Playstation 5. Slightly more pixels these days though. But still the same 3D radar display. I've still never seen a better design for one of those and obviously Frontier think the same.

                    Ah, you'll have to excuse me, I think I hear some of those kids on my lawn again...

                    2 votes
                    1. cfabbro
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                      My family's first proper home PC was an IBM 286. And the first thing I did when my father brought it home was to completely take it apart... with absolutely no idea how to put it back together...

                      My family's first proper home PC was an IBM 286. And the first thing I did when my father brought it home was to completely take it apart... with absolutely no idea how to put it back together again. :P So he then had to call in a favor from his IT guy to pay us a home visit in order to teach me how to put it back together again. In the process the IT guy explained what all the parts did, and some basics of how they worked. I enjoyed the process so much that my future career path (and primary hobby) was pretty much set in stone from there. :)

                      1 vote
  3. mat
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    Hard to get too excited about No Man's Skyrim. The original Skyrim was such a let down and Bethesda's decade long flogging of that particular horse with all the re-releases and so on, not to...

    Hard to get too excited about No Man's Skyrim. The original Skyrim was such a let down and Bethesda's decade long flogging of that particular horse with all the re-releases and so on, not to mention Fallouts 4 and 76, hasn't made me any more confident in them being anything like the studio that brought us Oblivion or Morrowind.

    Looks pretty, I suppose. But then that's like saying a movie has good CGI. Doesn't mean anything.

    2 votes
  4. MimicSquid
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    It's actually happening. That's nice. I wonder if it will have the same sort of lasting appeal that Skyrim and FO4 has had? I can only imagine what the modding scene for it will look like in five...

    It's actually happening. That's nice. I wonder if it will have the same sort of lasting appeal that Skyrim and FO4 has had? I can only imagine what the modding scene for it will look like in five years.

    1 vote