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Analogue is working on a Nintendo 64 console

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  1. [3]
    hamstergeddon
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    I assume that within a matter of hours after release someone will have some file that you drop on an SD card slot (that totally only exists for "cheats" and "backups") that will magically make it...

    Analogue 3D does not play copyrighted rom files, it plays legacy game cartridges via the cartridge slot

    I assume that within a matter of hours after release someone will have some file that you drop on an SD card slot (that totally only exists for "cheats" and "backups") that will magically make it play ROMs off of that SD card. Otherwise the Everdrive64 is going to see a huge uptick in sales.

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    1. [2]
      Kawa
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      For sure, but probably not a matter of hours. It took Pocket a decent chunk of time to get anything, actually, and it was never even a jailbreak firmware like with Super NT and Mega SG, first it...

      For sure, but probably not a matter of hours. It took Pocket a decent chunk of time to get anything, actually, and it was never even a jailbreak firmware like with Super NT and Mega SG, first it was converting gb and gbc roms to the gb-studio format, and then it was just the openFPGA cores opening up and supporting all the platforms the cart slot supports, and more.

      I kind of think in a post-analogue OS world (and all their future stuff is expected to use this platform) the jailbreak firmwares of old are gone in favor of openFPGA cores, which are great but was slower to release.

      EDIT: "1. Analogue 3D does not support openFPGA " - interesting, guess it will have to be jailbreak firmware.

      Also, the official reason for the SD card slot to exist is firmware updates, which is actually a pretty legitimate use case and something that every FPGA based Analogue device has received. openFPGA is also an official use case in terms of Pocket-onward, even if it carries with it the new age way of playing roms on Analogue's hardware.

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      1. hamstergeddon
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        Thanks for insight. I'm not too familiar with Analogue's work, I just know historically how "totally not for pirated stuff" tends to go. Because inevitably I end up using products like that...

        Thanks for insight. I'm not too familiar with Analogue's work, I just know historically how "totally not for pirated stuff" tends to go. Because inevitably I end up using products like that "totally for pirated stuff".

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  2. Sodliddesu
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    Got the email this morning. I'm excited, I just hope they have manufacturing figured out way ahead of time. The other consoles they make were already really limited but for a system that still has...

    Got the email this morning. I'm excited, I just hope they have manufacturing figured out way ahead of time. The other consoles they make were already really limited but for a system that still has emulation quirks? This is gonna fly off the proverbial shelves.

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  3. [4]
    domukin
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    Details are barebones but I like where this is headed.

    Details are barebones but I like where this is headed.

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    1. [3]
      demize
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      I just wish it had OpenFPGA support. When they discontinued the Super NT, I thought for sure they were going to launch a desktop OpenFPGA machine, and this... if it can do N64, it has to be way...

      I just wish it had OpenFPGA support. When they discontinued the Super NT, I thought for sure they were going to launch a desktop OpenFPGA machine, and this... if it can do N64, it has to be way more powerful than the Pocket, so it would have been perfect. But alas.

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        babypuncher
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        i'm sure jailbroken firmware will conveniently drop on an "unaffiliated" github right as this thing is landing in peoples hands.

        i'm sure jailbroken firmware will conveniently drop on an "unaffiliated" github right as this thing is landing in peoples hands.

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        1. demize
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          Oh I'm sure there will be jailbreak firmware, but I wouldn't expect more from it than we've seen on (e.g.) the Super NT. Maybe the ability to play ROMs, probably not the ability to load in...

          Oh I'm sure there will be jailbreak firmware, but I wouldn't expect more from it than we've seen on (e.g.) the Super NT. Maybe the ability to play ROMs, probably not the ability to load in OpenFPGA cores and play games it wasn't designed for.

          OpenFPGA could have meant Analogue could provide adapters to play physical SNES/NES/Genesis games too, with full first-party support (similar to what the Pocket does for handheld games). Plus open-source cores for ROMs and other systems. It would have made the 3D so much more worth it, but I imagine they'd need to design the 3D specifically for OpenFPGA, and they seem to be pretty clear about having not done that:

          Taber says the Analogue 3D will only support “pure N64 and the original legacy ecosystem surrounding it, nothing else.” It will not include any fork of the “openFPGA” system found on Analogue Pocket.

          (https://www.pastemagazine.com/games/analogue/analogues-next-retro-game-console-is-a-4k-nintendo-64)

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