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Manifold Garden - Release date trailer (October 18, 2019)

10 comments

  1. Hypersapien
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    I've had this on my wish list for a while. After seeing this trailer I want it even more!

    I've had this on my wish list for a while. After seeing this trailer I want it even more!

    3 votes
  2. 0lpbm
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    I had a faint hope for linux support, but alas...

    I had a faint hope for linux support, but alas...

    2 votes
  3. [3]
    cfabbro
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    This is currently on Apple Arcade and works on any iOS 13+ device. I played it a bit this morning and it's pretty neat so far... but navigation is a bit disorienting and takes some getting used to...

    This is currently on Apple Arcade and works on any iOS 13+ device. I played it a bit this morning and it's pretty neat so far... but navigation is a bit disorienting and takes some getting used to with the touch controls.

    2 votes
    1. [2]
      cptcobalt
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      Yeah, I totally agree. I really wish there was a better input method on mobile-devices then "joystick emulation". I'm getting better with it, but it doesn't feel good. For some reason, pairing a...

      Yeah, I totally agree. I really wish there was a better input method on mobile-devices then "joystick emulation". I'm getting better with it, but it doesn't feel good. For some reason, pairing a controller to my phone feels quite silly, so I've been sticking with the touch screen method. My biggest frustration is that my natural thumb resting point is too high to comfortably trigger run speeds in this game.

      3 votes
      1. cfabbro
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        I totally forgot I can use my Xbox controller on my iPad for this! I am definitely going to give that a try, because I really can't get the hang of this touch control system. Edit: You're my hero....

        I totally forgot I can use my Xbox controller on my iPad for this! I am definitely going to give that a try, because I really can't get the hang of this touch control system.

        Edit: You're my hero. The game has native controller support and works great. :)

        2 votes
  4. nothis
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    So excited for this! Looks like an Epic store exclusive, though, I'll probably wait for the PS4 release, then.

    So excited for this! Looks like an Epic store exclusive, though, I'll probably wait for the PS4 release, then.

    1 vote
  5. [4]
    Hypersapien
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    Wait a second. The Steam page still says 2020... Oh no. They didn't. checks Oh fuck. They did. Noooooooooo!

    Wait a second. The Steam page still says 2020...

    Oh no. They didn't.

    checks

    Oh fuck. They did.

    Noooooooooo!

    2 votes
    1. [3]
      cptcobalt
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      This is an unproductive and problematic argument. Yes, the Epic Games store isn't perfect (the client software sucks, actually), but I would far rather game developers and publishers actively...

      This is an unproductive and problematic argument. Yes, the Epic Games store isn't perfect (the client software sucks, actually), but I would far rather game developers and publishers actively choose storefronts which can give them confidence in a full return on their investment.

      Manifold Garden isn't a AAA title. It's an indie-ass puzzle, that happens to be rather brain-melting. Some people are just going to look at screenshots and videos and realize it's not a game for them. It's an absurdly tiny niche. (I personally bounced off this game the few times I've seen it before until I realized I have it with Apple Arcade...and now it's killed a few hours of my day today.)

      So, If Epic and Apple approach the developer and say, "Hey, take the exclusivity on our storefronts, and we'll guarantee you break even and then some", would you rather that option, over the very likely alternatives of development not finishing, or the published game not getting enough revenue for the developer to finance further titles?

      It's rude to shame developers and publishers (even jokingly) for trying to set themselves up in advantageous financial situations. We're talking about indies here, not greedy AAA studios—they're just trying to continue doing things they're passionate about doing in the long term.

      This Epic Store meme is reductive and shameful and really needs to end.

      2 votes
      1. unknown user
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        So, you phrase the argument as being between "breaking even for sure" and "maybe not breaking even"; you've not mentioned the reduction in playerbase for games released on the Epic store...

        So, you phrase the argument as being between "breaking even for sure" and "maybe not breaking even"; you've not mentioned the reduction in playerbase for games released on the Epic store exclusively. Manifold Garden only has a Windows release – since it's on Epic, nobody on another operating system can even try to run it, unlike if it were released on Steam.

        Maybe it's not significant; I haven't looked at Valve's OS statistics recently, but I assume Linux still trails far behind Windows. But that's why Epic exclusivity makes me personally angry – because now instead of costing whatever the price of the game is, it would cost me that plus a hundred-pound Windows installation, and there's no way I can afford that.

        tldr capitalism fucking sucks

      2. Hypersapien
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        I'm sorry, but delivering an inferior service (when they've had nearly a year to improve it) while at the same time holding games hostage so that customers have no choice of where to go is a...

        I'm sorry, but delivering an inferior service (when they've had nearly a year to improve it) while at the same time holding games hostage so that customers have no choice of where to go is a reprehensible business model and I refuse to contribute to it. I want to play the game but I am willing to wait the year till it comes to Steam.