HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29859149 Normally I would wait a few days to post it to give time for discussion to settle down but in this case I feel it’s a particularly...
Normally I would wait a few days to post it to give time for discussion to settle down but in this case I feel it’s a particularly relevant article.
On a personal note, I am frustrated at those here who decided to ignore the problem entirely. It's possible to both be concerned by a virus and concerned by the side effects of the rules and restrictions in place to curb its spread.
I feel like some people are so used to everything being politicised that NO, you HAVE to pick a side, you can either be against Covid and in favour of doing everything possible to curb it, or team virus like a republican and out there licking metro doors. (And yeah, I’m exaggerating, but I’ve felt the effects of such expectations dozens of times in the past 16 months even just here)
It's made family gatherings in my family pretty impossible. Mom and brother are very against everything, including the vaccination of young people. Dad usually holds neutral ground in those...
It's made family gatherings in my family pretty impossible. Mom and brother are very against everything, including the vaccination of young people. Dad usually holds neutral ground in those discussions and has been trying to keep up with the studies that are being released around covid, which he has a medical doctor has the best understanding of.
Even then, my dad has recently oficially medically advised me against getting the 3rd booster as a 23 year old. He didn't do anything of the sort for the first two shots and his opinion is generally positive on the vaccine.
At least by next week I'll be going back to my uni dorm which means I won't have to talk to my family about covid anymore,, because even though I said I don't want to talk about it, they do at every gathering, though they at least apologize. I guess they respect me enough to say sorry but not enough to avoid the topic. Meanwhile at the dorm, there are parties happening like every second day, and yet the thing hasn't become a hotspot. Maybe cause we're young. Quickly sourced data provided by my government does tell me that 71,04% of 25-34 year olds are vaccinated. Which means that I'm morally ok with partying like hell. I've got nothing else left.
Agreed. In recent conversations I feel like there hasn't any room for nuance or shades of grey. IMO vaccines are a good thing, but I am very concerned by the trend towards a society where the...
Agreed. In recent conversations I feel like there hasn't any room for nuance or shades of grey. IMO vaccines are a good thing, but I am very concerned by the trend towards a society where the unvaccinated are excluded from participating. I wear a mask, I am fully vaccinated and boosted, and obeyed all of the lockdowns in the UK, and have actively encouraged people to do the same. I also worked at a beer festival in September and we were told to turn away people at the entrance who couldn't show proof of vaccination, which I was deeply uncomfortable with.
But trying to express that in conversation with friends and family has proven incredibly difficult, since apparently you can't hold both positions. So I've largely given up trying to have the conversations, because I'm not changing anyone's mind when I do, and apparently have been portraying myself as some kind of anti-vax sympathiser.
In our hyper-capitalist society that's ruled by greed, this is just how it goes. I'm not saying this to hand-wave it away like it doesn't matter (it certainly does matter), I'm just pointing out...
In our hyper-capitalist society that's ruled by greed, this is just how it goes. I'm not saying this to hand-wave it away like it doesn't matter (it certainly does matter), I'm just pointing out that individual people aren't important to those who are in charge of our economy. If they were, we might have socialized healthcare by now and mental health might actually be taken seriously. If it doesn't make a wealthy person wealthier, nobody cares. Throughout the pandemic, we've hovered around 1000 deaths a day due to COVID-19 (now we're over 2000 a day throughout the last week), but that hasn't made anybody care to do anything that might mitigate that number.
No one is coming to help. The people who do care and are trying to help are burned out and broken themselves. It's an incredibly depressing situation. It's every person for themselves at this point, as we slowly sink further and further down.
This article is over 6 months old and lockdowns are a thing of the past (as if we really even had them at all). Now young people are being sent back to in-person schooling and we're seeing exactly how that's playing out. More sickness, more shortages, more chaos. We're living in an unprecedented time and nobody, including our leaders, seem to be taking it as seriously as it should be taken. On an individual level, it's hard not to look at this and realize... they don't care about me. The hard decisions that need to be made would fundamentally change our economy and nobody with the power is willing to do that.
If you can, save yourself. That's really all you can do now. Make the hard decisions for your own well being because there's no social safety net to save you.
HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29859149
Normally I would wait a few days to post it to give time for discussion to settle down but in this case I feel it’s a particularly relevant article.
On a personal note, I am frustrated at those here who decided to ignore the problem entirely. It's possible to both be concerned by a virus and concerned by the side effects of the rules and restrictions in place to curb its spread.
I feel like some people are so used to everything being politicised that NO, you HAVE to pick a side, you can either be against Covid and in favour of doing everything possible to curb it, or team virus like a republican and out there licking metro doors. (And yeah, I’m exaggerating, but I’ve felt the effects of such expectations dozens of times in the past 16 months even just here)
It's made family gatherings in my family pretty impossible. Mom and brother are very against everything, including the vaccination of young people. Dad usually holds neutral ground in those discussions and has been trying to keep up with the studies that are being released around covid, which he has a medical doctor has the best understanding of.
Even then, my dad has recently oficially medically advised me against getting the 3rd booster as a 23 year old. He didn't do anything of the sort for the first two shots and his opinion is generally positive on the vaccine.
At least by next week I'll be going back to my uni dorm which means I won't have to talk to my family about covid anymore,, because even though I said I don't want to talk about it, they do at every gathering, though they at least apologize. I guess they respect me enough to say sorry but not enough to avoid the topic. Meanwhile at the dorm, there are parties happening like every second day, and yet the thing hasn't become a hotspot. Maybe cause we're young. Quickly sourced data provided by my government does tell me that 71,04% of 25-34 year olds are vaccinated. Which means that I'm morally ok with partying like hell. I've got nothing else left.
Agreed. In recent conversations I feel like there hasn't any room for nuance or shades of grey. IMO vaccines are a good thing, but I am very concerned by the trend towards a society where the unvaccinated are excluded from participating. I wear a mask, I am fully vaccinated and boosted, and obeyed all of the lockdowns in the UK, and have actively encouraged people to do the same. I also worked at a beer festival in September and we were told to turn away people at the entrance who couldn't show proof of vaccination, which I was deeply uncomfortable with.
But trying to express that in conversation with friends and family has proven incredibly difficult, since apparently you can't hold both positions. So I've largely given up trying to have the conversations, because I'm not changing anyone's mind when I do, and apparently have been portraying myself as some kind of anti-vax sympathiser.
In our hyper-capitalist society that's ruled by greed, this is just how it goes. I'm not saying this to hand-wave it away like it doesn't matter (it certainly does matter), I'm just pointing out that individual people aren't important to those who are in charge of our economy. If they were, we might have socialized healthcare by now and mental health might actually be taken seriously. If it doesn't make a wealthy person wealthier, nobody cares. Throughout the pandemic, we've hovered around 1000 deaths a day due to COVID-19 (now we're over 2000 a day throughout the last week), but that hasn't made anybody care to do anything that might mitigate that number.
No one is coming to help. The people who do care and are trying to help are burned out and broken themselves. It's an incredibly depressing situation. It's every person for themselves at this point, as we slowly sink further and further down.
This article is over 6 months old and lockdowns are a thing of the past (as if we really even had them at all). Now young people are being sent back to in-person schooling and we're seeing exactly how that's playing out. More sickness, more shortages, more chaos. We're living in an unprecedented time and nobody, including our leaders, seem to be taking it as seriously as it should be taken. On an individual level, it's hard not to look at this and realize... they don't care about me. The hard decisions that need to be made would fundamentally change our economy and nobody with the power is willing to do that.
If you can, save yourself. That's really all you can do now. Make the hard decisions for your own well being because there's no social safety net to save you.