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Fighting for Judaism in the Jewish State

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  1. [5]
    Luna
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    Wow, this is insane. I knew the Israeli government was very socially conservative with their manifest destiny view of Palestinian territory, but I never realized just how bad it was. Punishing...

    Wow, this is insane. I knew the Israeli government was very socially conservative with their manifest destiny view of Palestinian territory, but I never realized just how bad it was.

    At present, I am representing 27 people whose Jewishness has been revoked by the government. In each case, families that were in Israel for more than two decades (and who had actually been married through the rabbinate) were summoned to “unJew” themselves because a new immigrant relative of theirs was unable to present to the rabbinate adequate certification of Jewishness, which created a domino effect.

    Punishing relatives for the "offences" (if you can call not being able to prove your Jewishness an offence) committed by their family members is absurd. I see nothing good coming out of this holier-than-thou pedigree contest of Jewishness.

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      NessY
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      This is the first case I've heard about people being un-jewed personally, but there are many strange things afoot at the Israel-k People have videos of chanting things like "kill the arab dogs"...

      This is the first case I've heard about people being un-jewed personally, but there are many strange things afoot at the Israel-k

      People have videos of chanting things like "kill the arab dogs" right out in the public squares. People celebrating soldiers who committed war crimes by shooting unarmed Palestinians. All kinds of various atrocities.

      On one hand I can feel for them. Jews have been prosecuted repeatedly for almost all of their existence. From the obvious like WW2 to the many many times before and after that much smaller. They have been forced into certain lines of work causing terrible stereotypes. They are finally given land by the world governments (however unfairly) and have been under constant attack and war since.

      Regardless that does not justify their actions and you really have to worry about the future for that area when they are clearly building anti-arab sentiment among the youth and population in general.

      It gets very hard to picture a peaceful resolution to the area.

      4 votes
      1. [2]
        EscReality
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        While I would never endorse the orthodox control on the religion, in fact it is clearly slowing progress in a nation pushing for progress. I have family there and have spent time in the nation,...

        While I would never endorse the orthodox control on the religion, in fact it is clearly slowing progress in a nation pushing for progress. I have family there and have spent time in the nation, it's a lot more peaceful than our media makes it out to be. The majority of the population (jew and arab alike) live side by side and function fine. Hopefully the religious extremists in the government can be ousted and the nation can return to accomplishing its original goals.

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        1. NessY
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          Yeah I certainly don't mean to paint the entire country there but as someone who's never been there I see some things outside the media that actually paint it as a much broader problem than JUST...

          Yeah I certainly don't mean to paint the entire country there but as someone who's never been there I see some things outside the media that actually paint it as a much broader problem than JUST the religious extremists.

          They were even doing interviews in public squares, at universities and just asking random people walking by what they thought about _____. You would get really amazing responses like "yes we should kill all the arab dogs" or something equally as insane.

          They could be fake, they could be planted people. Idk. But from the things I've seen and heard it's much more than just a simple religious nut making up 1% of the population.

          I would rate it akin to the number of Muslims in many muslim majority countries that are not religious extremists who still think we should kill gays and how even some crazy amount (50%+) of Muslims living in the western world still hold insanely "extreme" religious beliefs. One Pew poll focusing on muslim majority countries

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    2. KyloCommunist1917
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      Yeah, it's pretty obvious how much of a theocracy Israel really has become, especially under Netanyahu's government

      Yeah, it's pretty obvious how much of a theocracy Israel really has become, especially under Netanyahu's government

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