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Why the alt-right thinks porn is a Jewish conspiracy

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  1. Diet_Coke
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    Porn is an industry that lends itself to the black/grey market for a lot of reasons. Marginalized people often turn to that world to get by. It's no surprise that there are Jewish individuals, as...

    Porn is an industry that lends itself to the black/grey market for a lot of reasons. Marginalized people often turn to that world to get by. It's no surprise that there are Jewish individuals, as well as people of all kinds of cultures who stick together due to shared connections, customs and language.

    The alt-right's fixation on porn is part of the self-hating dynamic that runs throughout their ideology.

    17 votes
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    Reasonable_Doubt
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    Why does the Alt-Right want to make itself look like it can't control itself? This looks like a bunch of dudes who aren't afraid of making themselves look weak in the worst possible way.

    Why does the Alt-Right want to make itself look like it can't control itself? This looks like a bunch of dudes who aren't afraid of making themselves look weak in the worst possible way.

    10 votes
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      Brian
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      Sounds like something a soyboy that hasn't been uncucked by nofap would say. /s I guess a big theme is personal autonomy and trying to exert some semblance of control. If the world around you...

      Sounds like something a soyboy that hasn't been uncucked by nofap would say. /s

      I guess a big theme is personal autonomy and trying to exert some semblance of control. If the world around you feels uncontrollable and oppressive, at least you can control yourself. It's just tied to the weird worldview that Jews and globalists are ruining their lives.

      In a way, this particular facet of the alt-right thinking reminds me of some of the mentality behind anorexia or other eating disorders from the perspective that some of it's about personal autonomy/control taken to an extreme. Maybe this is a bad analogy. I don't know a lot about eating disorders and don't want to inadvertently equate someone struggling with something like that with a someone chanting the 14 words and waving a tiki torch.

      6 votes
      1. smit2300
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        While I agree the reasoning behind the article makes it seem obscene, I think there's certainly merit to the concept of exercising control over yourself to improve your interactions with the...

        While I agree the reasoning behind the article makes it seem obscene, I think there's certainly merit to the concept of exercising control over yourself to improve your interactions with the world. You feel a lot more confident in your control of other external situations if you're able to suppress personal desire. Like forcing myself to get up and go to the gym before I do anything else makes the rest of my day feel like it's on easy-mode. Usually there are good pursuing longterm gratification rather than instant as well.

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    2. DollywoodVacation
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      History has a away with doing away with folks like that.

      History has a away with doing away with folks like that.

      4 votes
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    Brian
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    The article gets a little rambly in the middle but does a decent job of explaining a bunch of 4chan memes I never fully understood before. The logic is more mind-bending than I previously considered.

    The article gets a little rambly in the middle but does a decent job of explaining a bunch of 4chan memes I never fully understood before.

    The logic is more mind-bending than I previously considered.

    9 votes
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      jackson
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      I had no clue this was a thing, and honestly I'm not surprised. We need to adopt a 'one world' mentality once and for all and get over this idea that someone has to be superior to everyone else....

      I had no clue this was a thing, and honestly I'm not surprised. We need to adopt a 'one world' mentality once and for all and get over this idea that someone has to be superior to everyone else.

      We don't need to hold someone's race/religion against them, and it's time for everyone to realize that.

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      1. DollywoodVacation
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        This is the step as a species. Environmental, political, etc.

        This is the step as a species. Environmental, political, etc.

        6 votes
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    lesalecop
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    It's really rather tragic seeing the desperation with which some of these people try to claim a sort of enlightened masculinity. There seems to be an ever increasing list of activities and things...

    It's really rather tragic seeing the desperation with which some of these people try to claim a sort of enlightened masculinity. There seems to be an ever increasing list of activities and things from which they must refrain from in order to consider themselves something other than a 'numale' or 'cuck'.

    First, you can't treat women with respect or consider them to be cognitive equals, that's bad 'game'.

    Next, you have to very carefully monitor your diet, avoid any and all soy products, make sure your T content is within a certain 'tru man' range.

    Next thing you know you have to start deleting the folders of porn you've painstakingly accrued over the years. You have to start feeling guilty if you find yourself being aroused by anything other than literal sexual acts you're participating in. You have to convince yourself to feel guilty about every sexual emotion you have that isn't within the predetermined 'game' boundaries.

    It's a community with a culture that incrementally builds insecurity in one's self and one's masculinity. Gradually creating dependency upon the ever shifting group consensus on what today's definition of "true" masculinity is. Deepening one's commitment to the group and further radicalizing each other. It's a cultish road to disaster.

    9 votes
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      Brian
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      I think it's important to point out that this is a radicalization thing. You laid that out nicely. I was kind of mulling over how Internet radicalizes people who feel marginalized. It seems like...

      Deepening one's commitment to the group and further radicalizing each other.

      I think it's important to point out that this is a radicalization thing. You laid that out nicely.

      I was kind of mulling over how Internet radicalizes people who feel marginalized. It seems like there's a formula to it and a lot of it has to do with fostering a sense of victimhood, and ridged self-control mechanisms that breed insecurity.

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      1. Gyrfalcon
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        If I recall, redirecting the sex drive towards The Party was one of the tactics used in 1984. It's amazing some of the stuff Orwell got right about radicalization and totalitarianism.

        If I recall, redirecting the sex drive towards The Party was one of the tactics used in 1984. It's amazing some of the stuff Orwell got right about radicalization and totalitarianism.

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  5. Yuli-Ban
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    The alt-right is a fascist paleoconservative movement dressed up in the rags of postmodernist meme culture, and we shouldn't see it as anything other than this. Fascists of the 20th century were...

    The alt-right is a fascist paleoconservative movement dressed up in the rags of postmodernist meme culture, and we shouldn't see it as anything other than this. Fascists of the 20th century were deeply afraid of their own sexuality and utterly terrified by female sexuality. Hell, when communist movements degenerated, this same fear of overt sexuality arose (most notably in Cambodia, which seemed like an almost parodic example of extreme sexual repression expressed through violence).
    Because we kept teaching fascism as some ancient hysteria of a generation of man-beasts foaming at the mouth with ultrasadism, we forgot what it looked like in daily life. Fascism on the ground looked no different than the modern alt-right, with its glorification and demonization of sexual prowess (same way the alt-right is full of "alphas" as well as the incel movement that despises alphas). It's full of inconsistencies. Fascists craft a pure traditionalist utopia in their minds that existed at some point in the past and crave for modern society to return to what never existed. It's why they clean up the 1950s, considering it to be the age of capable masculine fathers, doting submissive mothers, rascally but well-meaning children and the family dog, all in an ethnically homogeneous suburb where everyone knew each other and went to church on Sunday. They erase memories of Eisenhowerian taxation because they aim for zero taxation whatsoever, not because of freedom but because it allows them the opportunity to amass power through capital. And when your mindset is "might makes right", you want to have the best chances possible to get as much might as possible. All that stuff about racism? That was just natural. If anything, it was desirable. In their minds, it's a dream of having power where they're totally in control.
    That's why everything is a conspiracy, mind you. The idea that no one is actually in control is far more frightening than the idea that their mortal enemies are in control. If they can at least blame their moral failings and repressed desires on someone, they'll feel better about themselves.

    "I'm not responsible for my own miserable state; they are! I am perfectly sexually capable! It's just the Jews creating utterly unrealistic SJW-friendly lies through porn that's causing this anxiety!"

    Ironically, they're the same ones that will unironically violently defend misconceptions created by poorly-researched movies, TV shows, books, and video games.

    (Getting off track to an ADD degree) Like this one fellow who called me a cuck just for saying Africa was not a Mad Max-esque dystopia where everyone still lives in huts shooting at each other, dying of AIDs, and generally living like the Industrial Revolution never happened or that there were never African empires. I called him out on that bullshit, giving actual sourced examples, but that was libtard cuck SJW bullshit for... reasons. Oh no, he was always told Africa was an undeveloped mess, so that's the truth. Meanwhile, he's probably the same sort who'd unironically say that it's the Jews responsible for creating false, anti-white, fetishistic sexual stereotypes in porn.

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  6. smit2300
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    While I obviously don't believe that there's some massive conspiracy attempting to "doom the white race" or instill subservience or some shit I definitely get the basic idea of no-fap or no-porn...

    While I obviously don't believe that there's some massive conspiracy attempting to "doom the white race" or instill subservience or some shit I definitely get the basic idea of no-fap or no-porn in terms of delaying gratification. This article seems to make a false correlation between people that masturbate less frequently or think porn is psychologically not the greatest thing and morons that think "the jews" are trying to rule the world and end white people.

    Just thinking from an evolutionary psychology standpoint, there's a clear reason why orgasms feel so good--they're necessary for our continuation as a species. In order to get that sensation and the stimulus that comes with it when having sex, in the past you would have to be attractive or desirable enough to court a member of the other sex that's similarly attractive. Having all of the visual stimulus of sex with women far out of most peoples' league via porn and short-circuiting that pleasure process has got to have some negative consequences in terms of an individual's sex life or drive to improve themselves. If your body thinks that it's deprived of sex I would imagine it starts to do everything in its power to give you a physical or psychological boost and that's probably the true root of people that look down on porn, rather than some massive conspiracy that latched onto that mindset because it's 4chan and every damn topic has to relate back to jewish conspiracy.

    Not to mention the massive exploitation of women in the porn industry. I think that's become slightly better now with the age of internet porn celebrities, but I don't doubt that there's still extremely ethically questionable practices going on behind the scenes in porn, specifically "amateur" stuff, that not partaking in porn serves to mitigate.

    1 vote