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Not your asian sidekick (online dating, emasculation and more)

6 comments

  1. [4]
    cfabbro
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    I was super excited to follow this channel last time you posted episode 5 on Asian American Emasculation, since it was a really well done, long-form and rational discussion on issues that I was...

    I was super excited to follow this channel last time you posted episode 5 on Asian American Emasculation, since it was a really well done, long-form and rational discussion on issues that I was not really aware of before. However the next episode on Activism was pretty short and not nearly the same depth or quality IMO, so I kinda forgot about the channel since then. :/

    This episode seems to be another long-form discussion and a direct follow up to the original one that got me interested in the channel in the first place though, so thanks for reminding me about it. I can't wait to watch it later when I get some free time.

    5 votes
    1. [3]
      Catt
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      Yeah the last episode was short, and honestly kinda cool but not as interesting as the others. I am honestly really loving this series. There's some repetition between this episode and ep. 5, but...

      Yeah the last episode was short, and honestly kinda cool but not as interesting as the others.

      I am honestly really loving this series. There's some repetition between this episode and ep. 5, but I still enjoyed it. Hopefully you will to, can't wait to hear your thoughts if you end up sharing .

      4 votes
      1. [2]
        cfabbro
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        Just finished watching it. As you said there was a bit of repetition from ep 5 but I didn't mind that since it was interesting to hear the other guy's perspective on the matter since he comes from...

        Just finished watching it. As you said there was a bit of repetition from ep 5 but I didn't mind that since it was interesting to hear the other guy's perspective on the matter since he comes from a really unique background being adopted by German-Irish parents and working as a male model and actor. I found it interesting that even someone as good looking as him really struggled (and still struggles) against the stereotypes even in the dating sphere where you would assume he would be advantaged. It was a good discussion and I enjoyed listening to it, but it was not quite as eye opening to me as ep 5 since I was largely aware of the particular issues they brought up this episode. I also couldn't help but feel a bit voyeuristic watching this episode since it felt like the content wasn't really meant for me as a Caucasian, whereas the previous discussion was much more informative and inclusive rather than internal group dialogue like this one. Even so, I am still looking forward to the next one though so thanks again for posting this and reminding me of the channel.

        4 votes
        1. Catt
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          It's so interesting that you mentioned that because, I am Asian, and I found this episode hit a lot closer to home than the others. There were definitely a couple times I felt a little...

          I also couldn't help but feel a bit voyeuristic watching this episode since it felt like the content wasn't really meant for me as a Caucasian...

          It's so interesting that you mentioned that because, I am Asian, and I found this episode hit a lot closer to home than the others. There were definitely a couple times I felt a little uncomfortable, whereas I didn't feel that in any of the other episodes.

          4 votes
  2. [2]
    BuckeyeSundae
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    I really appreciate this video. OKCupid released data from its site back in 2014 (which necessarily focuses on the US) that showed the extent to which people from various racial backgrounds were...

    I really appreciate this video. OKCupid released data from its site back in 2014 (which necessarily focuses on the US) that showed the extent to which people from various racial backgrounds were attracted to people from each of four racial backgrounds. The long and short of it was even though race became some what less of a factor over five years, it was still a large factor AND Asian men and black people (both men and women) tended to get worse ratings than any other group. I would be really curious to know how that has changed since then to today, especially because Donald Trump wasn't such a legitimizing force for overt racism quite yet.

    It's a tough topic, and one that I think strikes to the core of the feelings of alienation that seem to exist for people with these racial identities. There seems to be a deep sense that the standard of beauty that is so attainable by white people can't be achieved by many other groups. That's worth looking at with open eyes. And the experiences and frustrations of the people who have it rough, statistically speaking, that's important to hear directly.

    One of the tensions I think within the Asian-American community here that I hear some of my friends rant about (the necessary disclaimer here being that I am white and they are not, so I'm going to try to relay their concerns without necessarily speaking for them) is that what it means to be "Asian" is so ridiculously wide ranging that it's hard to even have a united identity. A person whose parents are from South India is going to have a very distinct approach to these problems (look alone facial features) from someone whose parents are from Northern China. And then do we count Russians as Asian or European? Often, like in this video, it will seem like Russian-Americans and other Asian-Americans share a lot of struggles in common, but because a Russian-American, depending on what part of Russia their parents hail from, might look more stereotypically European/Caucasian, does that mean that they don't have to deal with as much of this bias because they can "pass"? (I would generally say, yeah, it does. As with all things, the ability to "pass" for a group you don't really identify with but which holds the majority status has real implications.)

    The really tough thing about this topic is that it extends way beyond just the dating scene. Questions of attractiveness extend to your chance of getting a job (you're more likely to get hired if an employer likes the way you look), to how likely you are to succeed in getting housing in a certain area (again, attractiveness improves your odds). It isn't like we can force people to be attracted to different groups of people, but hopefully by helping make people more aware of their inner biases we can start to undo some of their hold on us.

    At least, so I've got to hope.

    5 votes
    1. Catt
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      Thanks for your response. OkCupid study was interesting.

      Thanks for your response. OkCupid study was interesting.

      1 vote