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Bernie Sanders says Joe Biden "has advocated cutting Social Security for forty years" - Mostly false
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- Title
- PolitiFact - Sanders' misleading Social Security attack on Biden
- Word count
- 1509 words
"Mostly False" seems to be an incredibly generous interpretation for Biden. To say that the proposed cuts under Obama's Grand Bargain don't count because they didn't actually happen is like Trump saying he didn't actually commit a crime in withholding Ukraine aid because the aid ultimately flowed after he got caught.
I'd rate Sanders' statement as "Partly True" at worst.
Let's see...
Sanders and the article says "40 years", Politifact starts at 1973. I welcome anyone to correct my math here, but I'm pretty sure 2020 minus 40 years is 1980...
Their ruling purposefully leaves out all of the recent requests for cuts and includes new support only. Also tries to pull the schoolyard "but he said it too" as if that's a defense because Sanders has also stated that adjustments would be needed in 1996.
Let's keep score here shall we (only includes this article and the links therein, it gets much worse if we include the other article I added)?
1973: Raise benefits
1984: Cut
1995: Tie (supported an exemption, eventually voted without exemption)
1995: Cut (voted to freeze four times)
1996: Cut
2003: Stay
2007: Cut
2011: Cut
2012: Stay
2014: Cut
2020: Raise
So that's 4 for stay/raise and 6 for cut. Hmm... I'm trying to see where it's "mostly false".
Here's another article that seems less biased in favor of the Cognitive Decline CandidateTM.
Yeah I posted that intercept article simultaneously with this one. Interesting to see the contrast in judgement between the two.
Tl;dr Biden isn't really all that sure, Given his old but very poor electorate from racism I personally would trust what he says now.