I thought it was a really good movie, not on the level of Infinity War or Endgame but on the same level as Thor Ragnarok or GotG. Every time Pete did something else to mess things up and didn’t...
I thought it was a really good movie, not on the level of Infinity War or Endgame but on the same level as Thor Ragnarok or GotG.
Every time Pete did something else to mess things up and didn’t just listen to Dr Strange I got annoyed as I’m thinking he should know better, and the whole plot would not have happened except due to his own actions. But the way it all came together was great with bringing in all the throwbacks from the old movies.
I'm largely over the MCU and find it increasingly tiring but this was the first Tom Holland Spider-Man movie that I actually liked, and the first I felt really grasped the character somewhat....
I'm largely over the MCU and find it increasingly tiring but this was the first Tom Holland Spider-Man movie that I actually liked, and the first I felt really grasped the character somewhat.
Spoilers
At its core it's a movie about Peter's life sucking, him being an idiot about it, facing consequence and keeping on trying, which is kind of the quintessential Spider-Man story. I liked how they treated the ending with proper seriousness instead of the constant quipping (Aunt May death suffered from the jokey Spider-Men intro right after imo). I wonder how people who liked the other Holland Spider-Man movies feel here because this movie definitely feels like it's trying to reset a little too please folks like me who think all the Stark connections were a maybe drag.
Too many villains, even if they were previously established ones. Lizard and Sandman could've been cut easily without losing much except nostalgia bait (I think they were using recycled footage for both anyway), but I think Green Goblin and Doc Ock were done well enough on their own. Electro was basically a totally different character, which was weird but fine. Also the effects of Lizard talking looked awful, right?
One of the flaws with really heavy nostalgia celebration is that whenever Garfield was on screen I just kind of wished he were still Spider-Man instead. I like Holland, but Garfield just has this magnetic charisma and energy that overshadowed the other 2 by a mile in both his solo movies and this imo.
I didn't really like it. It relies too heavily on fan service and nostalgia for a character and franchise I don't care much about. Fans of the character will love it. Non-fans, probably less so....
I didn't really like it. It relies too heavily on fan service and nostalgia for a character and franchise I don't care much about. Fans of the character will love it. Non-fans, probably less so.
spoilers
Also, I've never really liked multiverse stuff. Miraculously, I really enjoyed Into the Spider-Verse, and the main feeling I got from watching this film was that so did Kevin Feige. I wouldn't quite go as far as to call it derivative, though; actually, it was probably inevitable that the MCU would at some point go multiversal.
Hey, remember how Spider-Man 3 was criticised for having too many villains? This film has even more villains, and it kinda works because this film doesn't need to spend even a second on their origin stories, and their motivations are mostly all the same (stop Spider-Man from sending them home to their own dimensions). The highlight of the film for me was Spider-Man fighting Electro, whose powers were really cool and flashy. Dr. Osborn's betrayal was 100% predictable, though. Like in Far From Home, the plot is mostly driven by Peter Parker making mistakes and trusting the wrong people.
And wait, how does everyone forgetting about him work in the modern age? There must be millions of videos and news articles about Spider-Man, including thousands revealing his secret identity. His friends must be wondering why they have hundreds of texts from and pictures of this random stranger. MJ definitely has his dick-pics, right?
I really liked the movie and it does well by the character. Spiderverse is still my favorite, but that's because Miles is my boy. Spoilers below... The Home trilogy was about Pete struggling under...
I really liked the movie and it does well by the character. Spiderverse is still my favorite, but that's because Miles is my boy. Spoilers below...
The Home trilogy was about Pete struggling under the weight of the Avengers and cleaning up the street level implications of their folly. Homecoming was in the aftermath of the Battle of New York, Far From Home was because of the death of Stark and the vacuum, and NWH is because some asshole had to flex on the multiverse without telling Pete the consequences until he was halfway done. Pete has to keep his morals and ideals about him in the face of the world falling apart, and it's a different take than him having to punch a guy until the day is saved. And he gets to fix these guys and they presumably are off living their lives in new timelines, but he has to give up everything, his future, his girlfriend, his magic pj's, his Aunt and his civilian identity in order to keep being the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. The Stark tech fails, the Magic bill comes due, and Pete's left holding the bag. But he squared the circle, and saw his futures and Spider-Man triumphs. Pete's dead, long live Spidey. And if that was the last we saw for Holland's Spider-Man, it would be a fantastic sendoff. But as for where he goes now, he's back to that kid in the hoodie and goggles, so now we start again.
I thought it was a really good movie, not on the level of Infinity War or Endgame but on the same level as Thor Ragnarok or GotG.
Every time Pete did something else to mess things up and didn’t just listen to Dr Strange I got annoyed as I’m thinking he should know better, and the whole plot would not have happened except due to his own actions. But the way it all came together was great with bringing in all the throwbacks from the old movies.
I'm largely over the MCU and find it increasingly tiring but this was the first Tom Holland Spider-Man movie that I actually liked, and the first I felt really grasped the character somewhat.
Spoilers
At its core it's a movie about Peter's life sucking, him being an idiot about it, facing consequence and keeping on trying, which is kind of the quintessential Spider-Man story. I liked how they treated the ending with proper seriousness instead of the constant quipping (Aunt May death suffered from the jokey Spider-Men intro right after imo). I wonder how people who liked the other Holland Spider-Man movies feel here because this movie definitely feels like it's trying to reset a little too please folks like me who think all the Stark connections were a maybe drag.Too many villains, even if they were previously established ones. Lizard and Sandman could've been cut easily without losing much except nostalgia bait (I think they were using recycled footage for both anyway), but I think Green Goblin and Doc Ock were done well enough on their own. Electro was basically a totally different character, which was weird but fine. Also the effects of Lizard talking looked awful, right?
One of the flaws with really heavy nostalgia celebration is that whenever Garfield was on screen I just kind of wished he were still Spider-Man instead. I like Holland, but Garfield just has this magnetic charisma and energy that overshadowed the other 2 by a mile in both his solo movies and this imo.
I didn't really like it. It relies too heavily on fan service and nostalgia for a character and franchise I don't care much about. Fans of the character will love it. Non-fans, probably less so.
spoilers
Also, I've never really liked multiverse stuff. Miraculously, I really enjoyed Into the Spider-Verse, and the main feeling I got from watching this film was that so did Kevin Feige. I wouldn't quite go as far as to call it derivative, though; actually, it was probably inevitable that the MCU would at some point go multiversal.Hey, remember how Spider-Man 3 was criticised for having too many villains? This film has even more villains, and it kinda works because this film doesn't need to spend even a second on their origin stories, and their motivations are mostly all the same (stop Spider-Man from sending them home to their own dimensions). The highlight of the film for me was Spider-Man fighting Electro, whose powers were really cool and flashy. Dr. Osborn's betrayal was 100% predictable, though. Like in Far From Home, the plot is mostly driven by Peter Parker making mistakes and trusting the wrong people.
And wait, how does everyone forgetting about him work in the modern age? There must be millions of videos and news articles about Spider-Man, including thousands revealing his secret identity. His friends must be wondering why they have hundreds of texts from and pictures of this random stranger. MJ definitely has his dick-pics, right?
I really liked the movie and it does well by the character. Spiderverse is still my favorite, but that's because Miles is my boy. Spoilers below...