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Singer Oliver Tree dead at 32 following tragic helicopter crash

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  1. [2]
    Kale
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    Oooof this one hurts. Not only was his music insanely good, he was very talented in so many ways and produced some incredible, funny and unique art. It was too soon for this legend to go....

    Oooof this one hurts.

    Not only was his music insanely good, he was very talented in so many ways and produced some incredible, funny and unique art.

    It was too soon for this legend to go.

    ramblings a lot of this songs talked about him dying or being gone… it hits differently now :(. It’s crazy because the story is so wild this is totally a way he would market his music…I know it’s real because of all of the sources but internally I desperately want to deny it. If it does end up being a stunt I will flip a fucking table tho.
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    1. Narry
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      I honestly had not considered the possibility that this could be a stunt. It definitely does feel like something he would’ve done early in his career, but at this point, he was much more...

      I honestly had not considered the possibility that this could be a stunt. It definitely does feel like something he would’ve done early in his career, but at this point, he was much more established and it just feels like this is a Buddy Holly situation. A real tragedy.

      3 votes
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    papasquat
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    I wasn't a big fan, but it's incredibly tragic that someone basically at the peak of their career, at essentially the beginning of their life doesn't actually get to enjoy any of their success. As...

    I wasn't a big fan, but it's incredibly tragic that someone basically at the peak of their career, at essentially the beginning of their life doesn't actually get to enjoy any of their success.

    As a side note, it seems like this happens far too often with celebrities. I wonder if anyone has compared the death rate of celebrities in aircraft versus the general population. Air travel is by far the most safest way to travel for most people, but celebrities seem to die that way all the time.

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      ogre
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      Helicopter travel seems more like a luxury expense compared to plane travel, which is probably why we hear more about celebrity deaths in crashes. Also helicopters have a higher fatality rate...

      I wonder if anyone has compared the death rate of celebrities in aircraft versus the general population

      Helicopter travel seems more like a luxury expense compared to plane travel, which is probably why we hear more about celebrity deaths in crashes. Also helicopters have a higher fatality rate compared to cars and planes: https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/105284/is-it-plausible-that-helicopters-are-safer-than-cars

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      1. CptBluebear
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        Yeahh.. My initial thought reading this article was "I'm never going to get in a helicopter unless absolutely necessary". There is a lot that can go wrong flying those things.

        Yeahh.. My initial thought reading this article was "I'm never going to get in a helicopter unless absolutely necessary".

        There is a lot that can go wrong flying those things.

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    2. V17
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      Not helicopters! Helicopters in general are afaik more dangerous, but especially private helicopters, where the pilots usually do not fly nearly much and as often. With helicopters that seems to...

      As a side note, it seems like this happens far too often with celebrities. I wonder if anyone has compared the death rate of celebrities in aircraft versus the general population. Air travel is by far the most safest way to travel for most people, but celebrities seem to die that way all the time.

      Not helicopters! Helicopters in general are afaik more dangerous, but especially private helicopters, where the pilots usually do not fly nearly much and as often. With helicopters that seems to play a big role, more so than with planes.

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    kmcgurty1
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    Anyone more knowledgeable about helicopters/aviation know how this sort of thing happens? I know very little about aviation, but I've always known it to be heavily regulated. The helicopter that...

    Anyone more knowledgeable about helicopters/aviation know how this sort of thing happens? I know very little about aviation, but I've always known it to be heavily regulated. The helicopter that collided with them was a solo pilot - which seems weird to me. I thought you had to announce when and where you're flying to?

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      Merry
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      Generally speaking if you fly VFR (which is daytime, good weather flying), most don't bother to file a flight plan. When I was flying it was generally, "Hey, the weather seems excellent for flying...

      Generally speaking if you fly VFR (which is daytime, good weather flying), most don't bother to file a flight plan. When I was flying it was generally, "Hey, the weather seems excellent for flying today." Then go rent a plane, talk to ATC ground on where you want to taxi and which direction you want to go. Then talk to tower who gives you instructions on which direction to fly and when you can take off (while holding short of the runway). Take off, follow instructions, and go wherever you want (except where laws and regulations state you have to fly a certain way or radio to a certain tower). This includes flying solo as a student by the way. I did not file a flight plan on that flight.

      Now, you can get what is called flight following in these circumstances where you can ask ATC to track you and give you instructions to the destination of your choice, but it is not required. In those cases they can warn you about other traffic but it's no guarantee the other aircraft is listening to them.

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        kmcgurty1
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        I'm surprised colliding midair isn't... exceedingly rare?

        I'm surprised colliding midair isn't... exceedingly rare?

        1. MimicSquid
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          The sky is pretty big, but the places people want to fly are close together.

          The sky is pretty big, but the places people want to fly are close together.

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        2. whbboyd
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          It's the birthday paradox (in this context, sometimes also called the "big sky theory", with the implication that it's not a great theory). Sure, there's a lot of sky up there, but the risk of a...

          It's the birthday paradox (in this context, sometimes also called the "big sky theory", with the implication that it's not a great theory). Sure, there's a lot of sky up there, but the risk of a collision is between every pair of aircraft in it, a number which grows as the square of the number of craft and gets high enough to make mid-air collisions concerningly likely fairly quickly.

          There's also the fact that the sky may be big, but the set of runways and helipads people take off from and land on are not, and every flight (ideally) starts and ends at a runway. The vast majority of collisions happen near takeoff and landing, when craft are far denser in the air than mid-flight.

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