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  1. Comment on The rise of elevated stupidity - America’s hot-take economy has created a kind of smart that is indistinguishable from stupid in ~life

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    This article is for members only

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  2. Comment on A modest proposal: Just log off in ~tech

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    Yes this is the more accurate definition.

    Yes this is the more accurate definition.

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  3. Comment on A modest proposal: Just log off in ~tech

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    I just found this and liked it. Thought it was valuable. It's different from the dozens of articles we see that say stuff like "I stopped using the internet and I've ascended to god-king." The...

    I just found this and liked it. Thought it was valuable. It's different from the dozens of articles we see that say stuff like "I stopped using the internet and I've ascended to god-king." The author says:

    The online space is here to stay, obviously, and I’m not suggesting we give up on it forever, nor that all of it is bad. But I think more of us need to prioritize the ability to think, exist, and be offline.

    I'd also like to build on this by saying that you can use the internet a lot and still not be Extremely Online. You can stream movies and TV shows, you can watch YouTube videos, and read articles about stuff that interest you. You don't have to lock your phone and your computer in a closet in order to feel better or to stop existing solely online. As long as you avoid the huge web of drama that exists, and you don't spend every waking moment scrolling through Twitter, or Instagram, or Reddit, you'll start feeling a lot better. There are websites and subreddits that are detached from the boring cycle of internet drama that only the Extremely Online care about.

    But, also, try not to spend so much time on any platform or forum.

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  4. Comment on Twitch, Pinterest, Reddit and more go down in Fastly CDN outage in ~tech

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    What does it mean if I didn't notice this? Was I just not affected?

    What does it mean if I didn't notice this? Was I just not affected?

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  5. Comment on Bo Burnham - Welcome to the Internet (2021) in ~music

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    That explains why they kept sharing the same four screenshots. You know, I’ve been extremely online and it does not feel good. It doesn’t feel good to have the attention span of a goldfish, and it...

    That explains why they kept sharing the same four screenshots.

    You know, I’ve been extremely online and it does not feel good. It doesn’t feel good to have the attention span of a goldfish, and it doesn’t feel good looking at memes all day.

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  6. Comment on How do you think someone/people should be introduced to politics? in ~talk

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    This is probably the best answer in this thread so far. I’d also add civics and economics classes. There’s also the general idea of encouraging kids to read the material, and to go outside of...

    This is probably the best answer in this thread so far. I’d also add civics and economics classes. There’s also the general idea of encouraging kids to read the material, and to go outside of class to read books about stuff that interests them. It’s why English classes are so important, since reading develops our skills to think critically, and there’s no real substitute for reading books (not even watching videos by Breadtubers).

    There’s no way to guarantee someone is gonna choose the “right politics” which is what I think OP is suggesting that we find ways to encourage people to choose the “right politics."

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  7. Comment on How do you think someone/people should be introduced to politics? in ~talk

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    People that say this are the ones that are usually online all the time. Which is interesting because being Extremely Online, as you have indicated that you are, requires a certain level of comfort...

    or if your life is comfy enough, don't bother at all.

    People that say this are the ones that are usually online all the time. Which is interesting because being Extremely Online, as you have indicated that you are, requires a certain level of comfort in your life.

    I’ve worked with people who are holding three minimum wage jobs and are barely keeping their heads above water, they got kids and aging parents they have to take care of. And they do not care about politics at all. Not in the traditional sense of electoral politics, and they certainly do not know anything about the online culture wars.

    Sure, they scroll through Instagram a lot, but that’s more of a passive experience, something for them to do while they space out for a little bit. They’re usually just really tired all the time.

    And the people I’m talking about are people in their early twenties, women, Mexican, and undocumented.

    Edit: OP I just saw that you’re 15 in your bio, and honestly that makes a lot of sense. I’m gonna say something that I wish someone told me when I was 15, before I became an extremely online mess when I was 16. Read books, reading Reddit threads and watching YouTube videos aren’t a substitute for actual reading. Don’t get caught up in online drama, nobody cares. You’re not gonna care about any of that a year from now. And whatever you do do not join Twitter.

    But most of all, live life. You’re so young. Just try to have fun. Fall in love. Make friends. Just do something.

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  8. Comment on Bo Burnham - Welcome to the Internet (2021) in ~music

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    I’ve been wanting to talk about Bo Burnham’s Inside for a while. Specifically, the extremely online element of it. People on twitter have been falling head over heels for it, but I think a large...

    I’ve been wanting to talk about Bo Burnham’s Inside for a while. Specifically, the extremely online element of it.

    People on twitter have been falling head over heels for it, but I think a large portion of them are missing a very important message Burnham is sending.

    Burnham has shown that he’s not that great of a fan of the internet and people being really online. Somewhere in this long-form interview he gets asked about twitter and trump and that whole mess. I’ll loosely paraphrase what he said: “What is the point of this? You’re not gonna fight Trump by tweeting nicer things. You’re not gonna out tweet trump. Tweeting isn’t doing anything, and you’re all just feeding into this cyclical thing.” And he says it with great passion. He clearly thinks being extremely online is worthless.

    Which brings me to the special, a lot of people keep sharing him with the sock puppet who repeats leftist talking points. The puppet points out somewhat accurate things so people keep sharing screenshots of it saying Burnham is “based.” What they don’t understand is that, while I’m sure Burnham agrees with a lot of the points, is that he’s making fun of this type of extreme person that you’d find on twitter. A twitter leftist who offers nothing but empty vague socialist platitudes and doesn’t actually do anything to help and is actually kind of annoying. He’s poking fun at the person who thinks tweeting about workers owning the means of production is doing anything meaningful.

    There’s also more obvious examples of Burnham criticizing the extremely online like the song posted here. But it seems like the extremely online aren’t getting the message.

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  9. Comment on Luis Miguel - Ahora Te Puedes Marchar (1987) in ~music

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    The k-pop boy band Super Junior did a cover of this song and it’s pretty good.

    The k-pop boy band Super Junior did a cover of this song and it’s pretty good.

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  10. Comment on How Twitter turned Kimmy Schmidt into a ‘KKK Queen’ in ~tech

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    I put it in ~news, since it seemed the most appropriate, but then it was moved.

    I put it in ~news, since it seemed the most appropriate, but then it was moved.

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  11. Comment on Trump blog page shuts down for good in ~tech

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    I wonder what would have happened if Facebook had implemented this back in 2015.

    I wonder what would have happened if Facebook had implemented this back in 2015.

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  12. Comment on How Twitter turned Kimmy Schmidt into a ‘KKK Queen’ in ~tech

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    The Root seems to be the worst outlet connected to the A.V. Club family. I don’t know why it is the way that it is, or where they get their writers from. But it’s definitely mostly elongated...

    The Root seems to be the worst outlet connected to the A.V. Club family. I don’t know why it is the way that it is, or where they get their writers from. But it’s definitely mostly elongated twitter threads published on a website.

    I agree with you that there are people that love to participate in pile-ups and cancel culture. I remember when the John Mulaney divorce news broke out, this was before the news came out that he was dating Olivia Munn, there were people saying that they couldn’t wait for Mulaney to become a racist comedian. For no other reason than they wanted to cancel him but they wanted to feel morally right about cancelling him, since there’s nothing morally wrong about getting a divorce.

    I would say that most of them are teenagers who get their entire worldview from Twitter, but there’s also a lot of twenty and thirty year olds doing this type of stuff. Which is just sad.

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  13. Comment on How Twitter turned Kimmy Schmidt into a ‘KKK Queen’ in ~tech

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    It’s an article that covers how misinformation on social media can explode and be harmful while using the recent Ellie Kemper news as an example. It’s less about cancel culture and more about how...

    It’s an article that covers how misinformation on social media can explode and be harmful while using the recent Ellie Kemper news as an example. It’s less about cancel culture and more about how this stuff spreads like wildfire, including to “news outlets” like Slate and Buzzfeed, without any fact checking being done.

    Though the article does comment on cancel culture in the beginning, and the author says something that I happen to agree with:

    there is a third school of thought regarding cancel culture that merits consideration. Perhaps the problem isn’t so much “cancel culture” — neither the right-wing pundits cynically using it as a tool to incite rage, nor the people advocating for accountability themselves — as it is the platforms that set the stage for cancellation to take place, that amplify barely fact-checked, incendiary narratives without any consideration of context.

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  14. Comment on Where do you get your sense of community from? in ~talk

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    Family. I had a few friends at school, but I was never allowed to hang out with them after school, my mom was pretty controlling over that stuff. When I got to college I was having a really bad...

    Family. I had a few friends at school, but I was never allowed to hang out with them after school, my mom was pretty controlling over that stuff. When I got to college I was having a really bad time, so I didn’t even really want to hang out with the friends I made there.

    I’ve noticed a lot of people saying religious communities, but I’m not religious. I grew up catholic but my family was never serious about it. And I don’t get anything out of online communities, I can’t really connect with someone unless it’s face to face.

    The only thing that has been a constant in my life, the only people I’ve hung out with, are my cousins. Now, I have about thirty cousins on my mom’s side alone, but I only really hang out with like two of them. But, even the other cousins I don’t hang around often, whenever we get together it’s like we’re a big group of friends. That’s where I get my sense of community from.

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  15. Comment on Does anyone else feel like they don’t know how to talk to people anymore? in ~talk

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    I feel like video chat and talking irl are still two different beasts honestly.

    I feel like video chat and talking irl are still two different beasts honestly.

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  16. Does anyone else feel like they don’t know how to talk to people anymore?

    I never considered myself an introvert or shy. I’ve always been comfortable talking with strangers, whether that was in my college class or just sparking up a conversation with someone next to me...

    I never considered myself an introvert or shy. I’ve always been comfortable talking with strangers, whether that was in my college class or just sparking up a conversation with someone next to me in line.

    I haven’t talked to a stranger irl since the pandemic started and I’m running scenarios in my brain about how I would talk to someone when I just met them. And every situation I’m going through I’m being awkward and uncomfortable.

    I can talk to my family and my cousins, who are essentially my only friends, just fine but that’s different since there’s already an established way of communication there.

    I just feel like I’m gonna be so rusty at talking to people, which is a shame because I’ve spent years learning how to talk to strangers in a certain way to make them comfortable and to very easily have a conversation. And I feel like I lost all of that now.

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  17. Comment on Amazon is acquiring MGM for $8.45 billion in ~movies

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    HBO Max has a pretty good selection of classics.

    HBO Max has a pretty good selection of classics.

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