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Andrew Tate charged with rape and human trafficking in Romania

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  1. [11]
    sota4077
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    I for one cannot wait until I can stop hearing about this dude. I don't care if it means he goes to prison or if he ends up broke and no one listens to him anymore. I just want to stop hearing...

    I for one cannot wait until I can stop hearing about this dude. I don't care if it means he goes to prison or if he ends up broke and no one listens to him anymore. I just want to stop hearing about anything related to Andrew Tate. Dude just sucks so hard.

    64 votes
    1. [3]
      st3ph3n
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      He is a terrible piece of shit, but I would be lying if I said I didn't derive any pleasure from his legal troubles.

      He is a terrible piece of shit, but I would be lying if I said I didn't derive any pleasure from his legal troubles.

      28 votes
      1. [2]
        sota4077
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        I used to take pleasure in his legal troubles. Now even those are annoying.

        I used to take pleasure in his legal troubles. Now even those are annoying.

        20 votes
        1. d_b_cooper
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          That's fair. I think I enjoy reading about them because it's finally some consequences for a loudmouth. Our culture of celebrity needs more consequences.

          That's fair. I think I enjoy reading about them because it's finally some consequences for a loudmouth. Our culture of celebrity needs more consequences.

          18 votes
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      1. sota4077
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        For decades there has always been someone to fill that role. Tate aint the first and he wont be the last that is certain.

        For decades there has always been someone to fill that role. Tate aint the first and he wont be the last that is certain.

        15 votes
    3. terr
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      The one problem I see with this outcome is that his whole schtick is about grifting. If, at the end of this all, he ends up free and destitute I could see him getting even louder and doing...

      if he ends up broke and no one listens to him anymore

      The one problem I see with this outcome is that his whole schtick is about grifting. If, at the end of this all, he ends up free and destitute I could see him getting even louder and doing whatever new wildly shitty things it takes to milk more money out of his followers. I truly don't want to know the depths of depravity he could reach if he becomes desperate. For the wellbeing of the world at large I hope he gets locked away for a very long time.

      9 votes
    4. [2]
      Tigress
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      I don't use twitter but I signed up years ago just to give a thumbs up to Sony. lately it's been giving me notifications about Tate's tweets. I have no idea why it thinks I'm interested in that....

      I don't use twitter but I signed up years ago just to give a thumbs up to Sony.

      lately it's been giving me notifications about Tate's tweets. I have no idea why it thinks I'm interested in that. Interestingly enough when it started sending me his tweets is a little after Musk took over. I know correlation /= causation but it still seems kinda odd....

      3 votes
      1. sota4077
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        Both my brother and myself experienced the exact same thing. We both follow almost exclusively liberal politicians and video game studios/personalities. Musk took over and my feed which is...

        Both my brother and myself experienced the exact same thing. We both follow almost exclusively liberal politicians and video game studios/personalities. Musk took over and my feed which is supposed to be my followers started showing 80% people I do not follow at all and of all the new accounts they were suggesting/showing me nearly all of them were right leaning political operatives.

        Absolutely no one will ever convince me that Musk didn't intentionally amplify voices on the right even when people had a documented history and followers list that indicated they were not interested.

        5 votes
    5. [2]
      msnws
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      Agreed. As someone who has had a former friend get into him, and who also has to deal with his "fans" on occasion (not by choice, they're not exactly family but akin to family), I find it so...

      Agreed. As someone who has had a former friend get into him, and who also has to deal with his "fans" on occasion (not by choice, they're not exactly family but akin to family), I find it so frustrating to watch people endlessly praise this guy. I don't understand it in the slightest and it sucks to think about the ideas these people likely condone because they support him.

      It's hard to say whether it's hatred or ignorance that draws people to him, but if I had to guess, it's some combination of the two. I've given up on trying to change minds a long time ago, but the irritation still lingers.

      1 vote
      1. st3ph3n
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        His schtick is tailor-made to attract lonely teenage incel types, and it is apparently very effective.

        His schtick is tailor-made to attract lonely teenage incel types, and it is apparently very effective.

    6. BreakfastCup
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      D:

      The trial will not start immediately and is expected to take several years.

      D:

      2 votes
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    1. [2]
      st3ph3n
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      Yeah. The Behind the Bastards podcast did a fairly in-depth series on them after they got arrested in January. Apparently the legal heat was getting too much for them in the UK, so they relocated...

      Yeah. The Behind the Bastards podcast did a fairly in-depth series on them after they got arrested in January. Apparently the legal heat was getting too much for them in the UK, so they relocated themselves and their skeezy business to Romania.

      13 votes
      1. geckospots
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        And bragged about how easily they could bribe officials, IIRC, which of course led to The Great Finding Out currently taking place.

        And bragged about how easily they could bribe officials, IIRC, which of course led to The Great Finding Out currently taking place.

        4 votes
  3. [8]
    Suuncle
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    Tate isn't my cup of tea, but I have tried to keep up with the news of him through word of mouth and the news. I heard they had to elongate his stay so they can get more evidence of the alleged...

    Tate isn't my cup of tea, but I have tried to keep up with the news of him through word of mouth and the news. I heard they had to elongate his stay so they can get more evidence of the alleged crimes that took place. I wonder if they got enough evidence to pin him to any of the alleged crimes?

    2 votes
    1. [7]
      st3ph3n
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      I think they must have if they've now formally charged him.

      I think they must have if they've now formally charged him.

      9 votes
      1. [3]
        Suuncle
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        I don't know. The article says the judge has 60 days to review the case before trial. It could be like you said, or it could be that they are going with the trial anyways without sufficient proof...

        I don't know. The article says the judge has 60 days to review the case before trial. It could be like you said, or it could be that they are going with the trial anyways without sufficient proof that they needed to tie him with. I'm interested in the outcome, even though I don't support his community.

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          thefactthat
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          The 60 days is a requirement of Romanian law and has nothing to do with the amount of proof the prosecution has, per this Reuters article:

          The 60 days is a requirement of Romanian law and has nothing to do with the amount of proof the prosecution has, per this Reuters article:

          Under Romanian law, the case gets sent to the Bucharest court's preliminary chamber, where a judge has 60 days to inspect the case files to ensure legality.

          10 votes
          1. Suuncle
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            Don't you suspect there might be an issue with his case because of the length of the extra time they kept him in a cell? They delayed it at least 3 times from memory. I am skeptical when rich...

            Don't you suspect there might be an issue with his case because of the length of the extra time they kept him in a cell? They delayed it at least 3 times from memory. I am skeptical when rich people get put in handcuffs for any reason because a lot of the time they can get out due to their money. On top of that the delays, so I would be genuinely surprised if he gets any time in prison after the trial.

      2. [3]
        guts
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        Romania is a really corrupt country, he was jailed without evidence.

        Romania is a really corrupt country, he was jailed without evidence.

        1. spit-evil-olive-tips
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          what is the evidence or source you're basing this claim on? from Tate's wikipedia article: it sounds like they had an ongoing investigation for more than 8 months before arresting him. also from...

          he was jailed without evidence.

          what is the evidence or source you're basing this claim on?

          from Tate's wikipedia article:

          On April 11, 2022, a man called the U.S. embassy to report that his former girlfriend, an American citizen, was being held captive in the Tate brothers' home in Pipera, Romania. The Romanian police raided the home, and a nearby webcam studio belonging to the Tates, where they discovered four women. Two of them, the American and another Romanian woman, told the police they were being held against their will, sparking an in-rem investigation into human trafficking and rape by DIICOT, the Romanian anti-organized crime agency. The two brothers were interrogated and released. At the time, they were heard as witnesses rather than suspects.

          On December 29, 2022, the police arrested both Tate brothers and two women. All four are suspected of human trafficking and forming an organized crime group, and one of them (unidentified due to Romanian law) is suspected of rape. DIICOT accuses the Tates of having recruited women through the "loverboy" method — which consists of misrepresenting one's intention to commit to a romantic relationship — and having forced them to create explicit content for websites like OnlyFans, as part of an organized crime group the Tates allegedly formed in early 2021. DIICOT identified six potential victims.

          it sounds like they had an ongoing investigation for more than 8 months before arresting him.

          also from that wiki article:

          On January 7, one of the Tate's lawyers said that the defense team had still not obtained a copy of the evidence presented by the prosecution to the judge.

          so even according to Tate's own defense lawyers, there is evidence, they just haven't been given the access to it that they would like.

          18 votes
        2. Mews
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          Wasn’t he jailed as a result of an investigation? Why do you believe there’s no evidence?

          Wasn’t he jailed as a result of an investigation? Why do you believe there’s no evidence?

          12 votes
  4. [2]
    guts
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    BBC had a weird fixation to Andrew Tate, claiming those ESG points.

    BBC had a weird fixation to Andrew Tate, claiming those ESG points.

    2 votes
    1. Mews
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      Not really weird, there is now legal action being taken against Tate in the UK so it makes sense that BBC would be covering it. I’m sure there’s a lot more internet interest regarding Romanian...

      Not really weird, there is now legal action being taken against Tate in the UK so it makes sense that BBC would be covering it. I’m sure there’s a lot more internet interest regarding Romanian legal procedure and ESG in the last months.

      7 votes