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Amanda Knox convicted in slander retrial over 2007 killing (gifted link)

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    updawg
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    These courts are doing a pretty damn good job of making me never want to go to their country. She's led by the police to claim this guy committed the murder, then, in a horrible miscarriage of...

    These courts are doing a pretty damn good job of making me never want to go to their country. She's led by the police to claim this guy committed the murder, then, in a horrible miscarriage of justice in almost every part of the case, she is wrongly convicted, never really given any recompense, and then convicted of slander for telling the police what the police told her to tell them.

    I never really followed this case much until I listened to the episode about it on the podcast Casefile (https://casefilepodcast.com/case-270-meredith-kercher/), so I never had an opinion on it until earlier this year, but it is absolutely insane the number of things they had to cover up to get to this point. It shouldn't even be seen as something where people take sides. It's just extremely evident that she had nothing to do with the murder. And she's the one facing slander charges, not the police or the tabloids that turned public opinion against her???

    Edit:
    @mycketforvirrad thanks for adding the tags and updating the title. I was clearly distracted.

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    DefinitelyNotAFae
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    I'm slightly confused about why they're re-trying her on the slander if she served a sentence for it already. But if her whole case, including the slander, was thrown out, ok, so now what? Also...

    I'm slightly confused about why they're re-trying her on the slander if she served a sentence for it already. But if her whole case, including the slander, was thrown out, ok, so now what? Also can she just stop going back to Italy or will this sort of thing get her extradited?

    10 votes
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      Hers is a high enough profile case that I’m surprised Congress didn’t come together for a show of bipartisan patriotism by passing a law saying “we don’t care what treaties our predecessors...

      Hers is a high enough profile case that I’m surprised Congress didn’t come together for a show of bipartisan patriotism by passing a law saying “we don’t care what treaties our predecessors signed, law enforcement is not to extradite her; likewise, debts related to any follow-on civil case in Italian court shall not be collectable.”

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      1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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        Cynical me says that half of Congress would use the same sorts of slurs targeted at women that have sex that the Italian police/media did, and another quarter will be real serious and a little sad...

        Cynical me says that half of Congress would use the same sorts of slurs targeted at women that have sex that the Italian police/media did, and another quarter will be real serious and a little sad and suggest perhaps she should have made better choices.

        I also wonder if the appeals court(s) will be better for her, since it does seem like this particular local court hates her. (I truly don't know the system there so forgive errors as I try to speak in generalities.

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      2. sparksbet
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        I'm not sure about extradition, but her best bet might be to rely on the SPEECH Act, which makes it so that US courts don't enforce defamation judgements from foreign countries unless the...

        I'm not sure about extradition, but her best bet might be to rely on the SPEECH Act, which makes it so that US courts don't enforce defamation judgements from foreign countries unless the jurisdiction in question offers as strong protections for freedom of speech as the First Amendment or the defendant would have been found liable for defamation if the case was heard under US law.

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      3. ignorabimus
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        Generally you don't want the legislature to intervene on very specific case-related judicial questions?

        Generally you don't want the legislature to intervene on very specific case-related judicial questions?

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  3. RodneyRodnesson
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    Wasn't too familiar with this tbh but you'd think the Italian Police (government et al) wouldn't want to continue things highlighting their fuckups. Seems stupid to me. The SPEECH act defence...

    Wasn't too familiar with this tbh but you'd think the Italian Police (government et al) wouldn't want to continue things highlighting their fuckups. Seems stupid to me.

    The SPEECH act defence mentioned elsewhere seems like a possible route though.

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