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BBC News live streaming on YouTube in the UK and USA

11 comments

  1. [2]
    Venko
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    This seems to be a Trojan Horse from the BBC. It's illegal (criminal, not civil law) for anyone in the UK to watch this without TV a license but ALSO they plan to change the law to force every...

    This seems to be a Trojan Horse from the BBC. It's illegal (criminal, not civil law) for anyone in the UK to watch this without TV a license but ALSO they plan to change the law to force every Brit who watches ANY streaming service to pay the license fee otherwise they'd be committing a criminal offence.

    [edit] There's probably another Trojan Horse inside this Trojan Horse because the government will justify further profiling of internet use from the populace to "enforce the TV license".

    7 votes
    1. json
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      Another Trojan horse I heard about was that there were plans to make YouTube prioritise the broadcasters in the algorithm.

      Another Trojan horse I heard about was that there were plans to make YouTube prioritise the broadcasters in the algorithm.

      2 votes
  2. bushbear
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    Is this a new development? Could you not stream BBC on YouTube before? As someone who lives in Scotland and doesnt watch BBC or regukar tv for that matter I guess I'm out of the loop on this kinda...

    Is this a new development? Could you not stream BBC on YouTube before?

    As someone who lives in Scotland and doesnt watch BBC or regukar tv for that matter I guess I'm out of the loop on this kinda stuff.

    4 votes
  3. [8]
    moocow1452
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    US link has been posted in the title, UK link is here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PmmEevogFZg&pp=uAQw

    US link has been posted in the title, UK link is here:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=PmmEevogFZg&pp=uAQw

    1 vote
    1. [7]
      Venko
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      I haven't checked the link but if you live in the UK do not click it unless you have a TV license. It's illegal to watch live TV without a TV license and you face a criminal record. A TV license...

      I haven't checked the link but if you live in the UK do not click it unless you have a TV license. It's illegal to watch live TV without a TV license and you face a criminal record.

      A TV license costs £180 a year in the UK and covers watching live TV (which includes watching something on YouTube as it's being broadcast on TV) and BBC iPlayer!

      3 votes
      1. [5]
        phoenixrises
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        I've always wondered... how is this enforced? I guess I can look it up on google but I figured we're all already here....

        I've always wondered... how is this enforced? I guess I can look it up on google but I figured we're all already here....

        4 votes
        1. [2]
          Tardigrade
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          It's not. Longer answer is that the enforcement is outsourced to a company that tracks if your address is paid or not and then sends spam post to remind you you've not paid and to say that they'll...

          It's not.

          Longer answer is that the enforcement is outsourced to a company that tracks if your address is paid or not and then sends spam post to remind you you've not paid and to say that they'll definitely come and check your house but I don't know anyone who's had their house checked.

          They've been debating overhauling it a long time as refusing to pay is becoming a bigger problem. They've debated making log in codes that allow you to use iPlayer if you've paid but that never happened. Part of the problem with this is that it's legal to watch at an address that has paid the licence fee even if you haven't. If you wanted to watch whilst at your parents or whilst staying with friends and they paid and you didn't that would be completely legal but good luck trying to make a code system that would work for that.

          4 votes
          1. smoontjes
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            Seems like they are making it unnecessarily complicated? In Denmark it's just built into tax.

            Seems like they are making it unnecessarily complicated? In Denmark it's just built into tax.

            5 votes
        2. [2]
          AugustusFerdinand
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          From the article about it:

          From the article about it:

          However, viewers in the UK, watching the channel live on YouTube, may not realise they still need a TV licence to do that.

          But with no guardrails around who's watching, no ability - for now anyway - for the BBC to insist you prove you've paid the fee before you can access its YouTube channels (or its own streaming channels), it's going to be hard to enforce.

          3 votes
          1. phoenixrises
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            whoops, I probably should have read the article, thank you!!

            whoops, I probably should have read the article, thank you!!

            2 votes
      2. moocow1452
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        Good point, the BBC says as much in its official (print) story. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c60merk2je80o (Not a lawyer, not a UK citizen, but it's a little odd that the official stance of...

        Good point, the BBC says as much in its official (print) story.

        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c60merk2je80o

        (Not a lawyer, not a UK citizen, but it's a little odd that the official stance of BBC News is that you can stream it without a license, and it would be awfully hard to enforce, but you'd better not.)

        1 vote