People focusing on whether Trump said "cash" or "not cash" seem to be missing the fact that either way, this is pretty strong evidence for a felony level campaign finance violation.
People focusing on whether Trump said "cash" or "not cash" seem to be missing the fact that either way, this is pretty strong evidence for a felony level campaign finance violation.
Whether or not a sitting president can be indicted is tricky waters, so we have to hope that the FBI is keeping a long list of violations and crimes for once his term(s) has ended.
Whether or not a sitting president can be indicted is tricky waters, so we have to hope that the FBI is keeping a long list of violations and crimes for once his term(s) has ended.
A self-pardon would be very risky politically (for hopefully obvious reasons). It's also politically risky to try to hold him to task for things he did on the way to becoming president that may...
A self-pardon would be very risky politically (for hopefully obvious reasons). It's also politically risky to try to hold him to task for things he did on the way to becoming president that may have violated the law (as it is unclear whether they would be included in a class of lawsuits the president could claim immunity from so that he can perform the duties of the office). It's also politically risky to pardon a president after office (ask Gerald Ford).
I know people don't like the idea of waiting until he's out of office to prosecute for the myriad of criminal-looking activities that happened in the run up to the election, but that's probably the safest road.
Edit: The reason for waiting would be to avoid having the matter settled by Congress, whose ability to indict can include any number of crimes to the state (but they have to be "high enough" which is a question left to each Congress). Clinton and Nixon were each indicted for some form of obstruction of justice, for example. There were other charges too, but the idea that they each tried to stop an investigation from going forward was a lot of what had Congress so angry--if you take them at face value.
Exactly this. To my mind, the nuance of whether Trump is discussing making illicit payments by cheque or cash is like that blue dress argument. The point is he is making these payments. Not to...
Exactly this. To my mind, the nuance of whether Trump is discussing making illicit payments by cheque or cash is like that blue dress argument. The point is he is making these payments. Not to mention the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of other documents involved that we aren't privy to, which may shed more light on the situation.
People are also missing that they seem to be talking about "cash" not in the sense of green paper but in the sense of liquid assets vs taking out a loan to make the payment. It doesn't really...
People are also missing that they seem to be talking about "cash" not in the sense of green paper but in the sense of liquid assets vs taking out a loan to make the payment. It doesn't really matter as far as I can tell, but folks seem caught up in the imagery of a briefcase full of money, and that's unlikely at best.
I thought he was saying "No, I'll pay with cash" as a denial of the need for "financing" and the "no no no" was Cohen saying that's not how it's done. This tape isn't easy to interpret, I could...
I thought he was saying "No, I'll pay with cash" as a denial of the need for "financing" and the "no no no" was Cohen saying that's not how it's done. This tape isn't easy to interpret, I could see your comment being true if he's saying "don't".
Notice how he casually dismisses the american public, going so far to say they'd forget about it given four weeks. I think he has more insight than most give him credit for. Give this four days,...
Notice how he casually dismisses the american public, going so far to say they'd forget about it given four weeks. I think he has more insight than most give him credit for. Give this four days, and the next big thing will wash away all news of this.
Among his core voters and the Republican Party? Very little. I know it's been said before, but nothing seems to matter any more. At this point, I doubt there's anything Trump can say or do that...
Seriously though, what kind of fallout can this generate?
Among his core voters and the Republican Party? Very little. I know it's been said before, but nothing seems to matter any more. At this point, I doubt there's anything Trump can say or do that will cause his voters to falter and the Republican Party to drop him.
Well, this is painfully predictable. Trump claims Cohen tape on Playboy model may have been doctored https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/25/trump-cohen-tape-740418 Michael Cohen's lawyer on...
I'm playing catch-up, a name mentioned in the tape is one I was unfamiliar with. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Weisselberg He is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) of The Trump Organization....
He is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) of The Trump Organization.
Following college, Weisselberg worked for real estate magnate Fred Trump and The Trump Organization. By the late 1980s, he was controller of the organization and worked under CFO Stephen Bollenbach.[1] In 2000, Weisselberg was named Vice President of Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts. He also served as treasurer of the Donald J. Trump Foundation.[1]
On January 11, 2017, it was announced that Weisselberg would serve as a trustee at the Trump Organization alongside Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr while Donald Trump serves as President of the United States.[2] Weisselberg lived in Nassau County on Long Island as of 2005.[2] He appeared as a judge on the seventh episode of the second season of The Apprentice.
I wonder if Cohen and Weisselberg are Implicated in the suit of The Trump Foundation as well and if any connections can be made with the source of the funding of the hush money?
New York Attorney General Sues Trump Foundation After 2-Year Investigation
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People focusing on whether Trump said "cash" or "not cash" seem to be missing the fact that either way, this is pretty strong evidence for a felony level campaign finance violation.
Whether or not a sitting president can be indicted is tricky waters, so we have to hope that the FBI is keeping a long list of violations and crimes for once his term(s) has ended.
A self-pardon would be very risky politically (for hopefully obvious reasons). It's also politically risky to try to hold him to task for things he did on the way to becoming president that may have violated the law (as it is unclear whether they would be included in a class of lawsuits the president could claim immunity from so that he can perform the duties of the office). It's also politically risky to pardon a president after office (ask Gerald Ford).
I know people don't like the idea of waiting until he's out of office to prosecute for the myriad of criminal-looking activities that happened in the run up to the election, but that's probably the safest road.
Edit: The reason for waiting would be to avoid having the matter settled by Congress, whose ability to indict can include any number of crimes to the state (but they have to be "high enough" which is a question left to each Congress). Clinton and Nixon were each indicted for some form of obstruction of justice, for example. There were other charges too, but the idea that they each tried to stop an investigation from going forward was a lot of what had Congress so angry--if you take them at face value.
A pardon is also an admission that the person being pardoned is guilty of something, if I understand correctly.
You're in luck because Congress doesn't seem interested in settling the matter themselves anyway.
Exactly this. To my mind, the nuance of whether Trump is discussing making illicit payments by cheque or cash is like that blue dress argument. The point is he is making these payments. Not to mention the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of other documents involved that we aren't privy to, which may shed more light on the situation.
People are also missing that they seem to be talking about "cash" not in the sense of green paper but in the sense of liquid assets vs taking out a loan to make the payment. It doesn't really matter as far as I can tell, but folks seem caught up in the imagery of a briefcase full of money, and that's unlikely at best.
I couldn't quite follow what they were talking about. They were needing to set up a company for what information?
Edit: quite not but
They were setting up a company for the payment under Donald Trump's Alias "David Dennison."
Here's the segment with the recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBB9TcOGqTg
To me he clearly said "I'll pay with cash"
I thought he was saying "No, I'll pay with cash" as a denial of the need for "financing" and the "no no no" was Cohen saying that's not how it's done. This tape isn't easy to interpret, I could see your comment being true if he's saying "don't".
Notice how he casually dismisses the american public, going so far to say they'd forget about it given four weeks. I think he has more insight than most give him credit for. Give this four days, and the next big thing will wash away all news of this.
Among his core voters and the Republican Party? Very little. I know it's been said before, but nothing seems to matter any more. At this point, I doubt there's anything Trump can say or do that will cause his voters to falter and the Republican Party to drop him.
Well, this is painfully predictable.
Trump claims Cohen tape on Playboy model may have been doctored
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/25/trump-cohen-tape-740418
Michael Cohen's lawyer on Wednesday also said 'there are certainly more tapes.'
I'm playing catch-up, a name mentioned in the tape is one I was unfamiliar with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Weisselberg
He is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) of The Trump Organization.
Following college, Weisselberg worked for real estate magnate Fred Trump and The Trump Organization. By the late 1980s, he was controller of the organization and worked under CFO Stephen Bollenbach.[1] In 2000, Weisselberg was named Vice President of Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts. He also served as treasurer of the Donald J. Trump Foundation.[1]
On January 11, 2017, it was announced that Weisselberg would serve as a trustee at the Trump Organization alongside Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr while Donald Trump serves as President of the United States.[2] Weisselberg lived in Nassau County on Long Island as of 2005.[2] He appeared as a judge on the seventh episode of the second season of The Apprentice.
I wonder if Cohen and Weisselberg are Implicated in the suit of The Trump Foundation as well and if any connections can be made with the source of the funding of the hush money?
New York Attorney General Sues Trump Foundation After 2-Year Investigation
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/nyregion/trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.html
I hope someone will correct me if I misunderstand.
Edit to add: A question...Stormy Daniels payment came from Cohen's own funds, right? Did this one too?