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This Week in Election Night, 2020 (Week 13)

good morning, tildes--this is not a test. we are 503 days and dropping away from possibly the biggest election day in recent american history. no opinion pieces this week, but we do have a number of [LONGFORM] pieces this week. our polling section is large this week, and donald makes his first entry onto the TWIEN scene with his formal reelection campaign's kickoff today.

the usual note: common sense should be able to generally dictate what does and does not get posted in this thread. if it's big news or feels like big news, probably make it its own post instead of lobbing it in here. like the other weekly threads, this one is going to try to focus on things that are still discussion worthy, but wouldn't necessarily make good/unique/non-repetitive discussion starters as their own posts.

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News

Polling

Biden 49 - 39 Trump
Sanders 49 - 40 Trump
Harris 42 - 41 Trump
Warren 43 - 41 Trump
Buttigieg 41 - 40 Trump

Biden 46 - 35 Trump
Sanders 47 - 35 Trump
Harris 41 - 35 Trump
Warren 42 - 36 Trump
Klobuchar 34 - 36 Trump
Buttigieg 34 - 36 Trump

Biden 50 - Trump 41
Sanders 48 - Trump 42
Warren 47 - Trump 43
Harris 45 - Trump 44
O’Rourke 45 - Trump 44
Buttigieg 44 - Trump 43

In Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan [...] Trump trails Biden by double-digits. In three of those states — Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida — Biden’s leads sit outside the poll’s margin of error.
Trump is also behind the former vice president in Iowa by 7 points, in North Carolina by 8 points, in Virginia by 17 points, in Ohio by 1 point, in Georgia by 6 points, in Minnesota by 14 points, and in Maine by 15 points.
In Texas, where a Democratic presidential nominee hasn’t won since President Jimmy Carter in 1976, Trump leads by just 2 points.

Half of the registered voters in Texas would vote to reelect President Donald Trump, but half of them would not, according to the latest University of Texas/Texas Tribune Poll.
Few of those voters were wishy-washy about it: 39% said they would “definitely” vote to reelect Trump; 43% said they would “definitely not” vote for him. The remaining 18% said they would “probably” (11%) or “probably not” (7%) vote to give Trump a second term.

General Stuff

  • from Buzzfeed News: [LONGFORM] People In Flint Are Still In Crisis. They Want Presidential Candidates To See Them As More Than A Rallying Cry. the people of flint, long used to being a stopover location for prospective presidential candidates, are seeking to be something a little more this year as the city continues to try and recover from its massive infrastructural problems. flint has been a national issue since 2016; some of you may remember that both clinton and sanders debated there during that cycle, and donald trump also stopped over. so far this cycle though, only one candidate has stopped in the city--julian castro, who incidentally has a plan to eliminate lead poisoning. we're still quite early in the cycle, of course, so this is likely to change, but the question is worth asking whether or not it'll be anything extensive.
  • from Alternet: ‘Storm of a century’: Why voter turnout in 2020 might be nothing like we’ve ever seen. we're still quite a ways out but there is already extensive speculation that based on the 2018 midterms and the continued, extremely polarizing presidency of donald that 2020 could be the highest turnout election since 2008 (61%), or perhaps even 1960 (63%). this would most likely require about 156 million ballots to be cast, compared to the 139 million cast in 2016.
  • from POLITICO: Dems take red state detours to prove 2020 electability. a fair amount has already been said of the trend of democratic candidates going to places that they don't ordinarily go to in presidential cycles, which is the crux of this article. democratic candidates are taking the opportunity to go places that have never seen presidential candidates before, and while it's not going to win deep red states obviously, it suggests that maybe the democratic party is finally readopting something resembling the 50 state strategy.
  • from Vox: A new poll shows how sexism and electability collide in 2020. one of the things that could genuinely be holding back the female candidates in this race is sexism--but not voter sexism, interestingly. for you see, the problem confronting female candidates this year is not necessarily voter opinions on whether a woman can be president per se, but voter's perceptions of other voters' opinions on the subject: "Only 33 percent of voters surveyed believed their neighbors would be comfortable with a woman in the Oval Office, despite 74 percent saying they themselves would be comfortable with a woman president." this, vox argues here, basically leads to the electability argument kinda fucking women over.
  • from Vox: Young voters of color are supporting Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. But many want a different candidate. emphasizing how early we are in this, it's worth noting that many candidates are being buoyed in part by name recognition currently, particularly biden and sanders. they of course have solid bases, but a lot of people are defaulting to people they know since it's early, and in the next few months those people might start shopping around for other candidates.
  • from Vox: Why the Democratic Party doesn’t want a presidential debate about climate change. the longest lasting of the controversies surrounding the democratic debate series continues. the ostensible reason for this: "Perez said that even without a climate change-specific debate, it will be an issue that’s impossible to ignore. “I have the utmost confidence that, based on our conversations with networks, climate change will be discussed early and often during our party’s primary debates,” he wrote."

Donald Trump

  • from the Guardian: Can lightning strike twice? Trump set to launch 2020 campaign. donald trump formally launches his reelection campaign today in orlando, florida. focuses of his campaign are all but guaranteed to be economy, national security, and immigration; how well he sticks to these given his inability to tout them effectively in 2018 remains to be seen, of course. socialism also seems like it's shaping up to be a part of donald's reelection message, and he may be preparing to relitigate the 2017 healthcare fight as well.

Joe Biden

  • from NBC News: Biden's 'Back to the Future' dilemma. joe biden has an interesting issue: the crux of his appeal is based in the past, but so are most of the criticisms of him. the source of most of the things that make people like him are obviously rooted in the obama administration and his extensive legislative and senate career, but his past also leaves him open to attack because it leaves a lot to be desired. NBC offers some observations: "Biden is finding out that William Faulkner's observation applies to presidential politics: The past is never dead; it's not even past. To win, he may have to figure out how to get past his past."
  • from VICE: Biden Has an Aggressive Plan to Force China to Go Green. policy-wise, biden's climate plan has some interesting international features. per VICE, "It promises that as president, “Biden will rally a united front of nations to hold China accountable to high environmental standards in its Belt and Road Initiative infrastructure projects so that China can’t outsource pollution to other countries.”" this is not really a feature in any other candidate's plans, it is worth noting.
  • from CNN: Biden slams critics of working with GOP: 'Why don't you all go home then, man?'. biden is trying to play up the bipartisanship argument, probably against better judgment. while other candidates have stumped on the idea of nuking the filibuster in the senate and using executive orders to pass their policies instead of trying to ram things through the senate at all, biden takes a consensus line: "The fact of the matter is, if we can't get a consensus, nothing happens except the abuse of power by the executive. Zero." in the event that biden somehow cannot make this work, he intends to "[...]go out and beat these folks if they don't agree with you, by making your case -- and that's what presidents are supposed to do: Persuade the public."

Bernie Sanders

Elizabeth Warren

Kamala Harris

  • from Buzzfeed News: Kamala Harris Has A Network Of Black Sorority Sisters Mobilizing For Her In The South. one advantage kamala harris has going for her organization wise is sorority sisters. harris is a member of the Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority, the oldest (greek letter) sorority for black females in america, and as it happens that is a very convenient for campaign organizing. harris is fairly distant from the front runners in the south currently, polling only around 8% in south carolina (biden is polling at 40%!), so she'll probably take every volunteer she can get. harris's campaign in fact identifies the sorority connection as one of the keys to sucessful organization in the south as of now.
  • from the Atlantic: Kamala Harris’s Mistake. harris is not without criticism this week, of course. some people are not very appreciative of her statement on the DoJ most likely having no choice but to prosecute donald in a post-trump presidency because it reeks too much of some sort of effort to create an illiberal democracy, or some similar criticism like that.

Pete Buttigieg

  • from POLITICO: Pete Buttigieg raised staggering $7 million in April alone. despite stalling in the polls, pete buttigieg is still raising fairly large amounts of money (in part because of his continued appeal to some liberals, but also probably because he is apparently one of the favorite sons of many wall street types); it is worth bearing in mind though that we currently do not have anybody to compare this against besides biden, who has supposedly raised 19.8 million according to basic math. it's entirely possible that buttigieg is on the short end of the stick. we'll have to see.
  • from CNN: Buttigieg cancels top-dollar California fundraisers to focus on officer-involved shooting in South Bend. buttigieg also had to cancel appearances at a number of events this week to handle an officer-involved shooting that took place in south bend this week. this move has mostly been praised, but i imagine will be under a decent amount of scrutiny given that buttigieg is running for president and will, if he wins, have to address things like this on a national level.

Everybody Else

  • from POLITICO: Julián Castro in Fox News town hall: Let’s talk about me, not Hillary. julian castro was the latest candidate to have a fox news town hall, at which he rebuked the network's efforts to tie everybody to hillary clinton (and also rebuked efforts to talk about really any other candidate actually in the primary). castro also doubled down quite significantly on his plans for immigration and in his criticisms of donald trump, despite the conservative audience at home.
  • from CNN: Amy Klobuchar joins Democrats calling for impeachment proceedings. amy klobuchar, the other other female candidate, became the latest democrat to call for impeachment proceedings that is running for president. this brings the total number of candidates in favor of impeachment proceedings up to about a dozen, according to CNN.
  • from the Atlantic: This Isn’t Going According to Plan for Kirsten Gillibrand. kirsten gillibrand's mighty, shambaholic campaign continues to get press--but most likely not for the reasons she'd want. last week i had an article on how she's used to uphill battles, but in this case it seems like she picked off a battle that is entirely too much for her abilities as a skilled campaigner, because her polling remains incredibly bad. her one solace is she's made the first debate, but that's about it. that, i think, is really her last chance to start rising in the polls before she's going to be relegated to perennial 1%er status the rest of the way.
  • from POLITICO: How Rep. Eric Swalwell would tackle gun violence in America. eric swalwell has a plant to tackle gun violence. it is quite straightforward, and "includes banning assault weapons, instituting a gun buyback program and requiring licenses for all gun owners." he also says he "would hold weapon manufacturers responsible by “lifting the shield of liability that protects” them" and wants insurance to be a part of gun licensing.
  • from New York Magazine: [LONGFORM] Tulsi Gabbard Had a Very Strange Childhood, which may help explain why she’s out of place in today’s Democratic Party. And her long-shot 2020 candidacy. this piece by NYMag is an extensive profile of possibly the second most odd candidate running in the primary and perennial 1%er tulsi gabbard, the congresswoman for hawaii's second congressional district, noted "progressive" candidate, apparent hindu nationalist, and supposed assad apologist. gabbard is an interesting candidate mostly because of her own incredibly unique past, but also because of the incredibly odd people she brings together to form her 1% coalition that polls just behind yang but just ahead of williamson, usually (that coalition being progressive types, hindu nationalists, intellectual dark web dogwhistlers, and more).
  • from CBS News: Marianne Williamson on bringing spirituality back into politics. marianne williamson, who is arguably the weirdest candidate of the cycle ahead of gabbard, takes a very interesting line of approach to the campaign, which i think i'll just quote directly: "The problem [with politics] is with an over-corporatized, over-secularized political conversation so disconnected from values, so disconnected from issues of moral and ethical responsibility, as to have broken itself off of the major river of American thought and American life. That's why so many people can't relate to it." interestingly, williamson also supports a 200-500 bllion dollar reparations package.
  • from Vox: [LONGFORM] Andrew Yang is promising to revitalize America. His nonprofit tried, too, but couldn’t. andrew yang is running on a platform of revitalizing america among other things, but his record on the issue suggests he might have a hard time messaging on that. as Vox reports, yang intended to create 100,000 jobs through venture for america, but VFA has failed to create even 4,000 "jobs" so far. given that VFA is sorta kinda a model for yang's campaign, this does leave a number of questions up in the air.

anyways, feel free to as always contribute other interesting articles you stumble across, or comment on some of the ones up there.

23 comments

  1. Litmus2336
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    How do people feel about proposals to ram through legislation via Executive Orders and the desire to increase the amount of Supreme Court Justices? While I see why people want that, it seems like...

    How do people feel about proposals to ram through legislation via Executive Orders and the desire to increase the amount of Supreme Court Justices?

    While I see why people want that, it seems like we're getting into an arms race of expanding executive power, and I think we can see how harmful that can potentially be. I really do hope whomever is elected president attempts to reduce executive power, and instead strengthen the courts and legislature.

    As a counterpoint to my own argument, one of the major issues with the legislative branch is the lack of proportional representation in half of it, so I can see why some people prefer relying on the executive branch.

    3 votes
  2. [3]
    alyaza
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    on a much less significant note, we just got the order of podiums for both nights of debate: Night One Night Two

    on a much less significant note, we just got the order of podiums for both nights of debate:

    Night One

    Night one (6/26): Bill de Blasio, Tim Ryan, Julian Castro, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren - center stage - Beto O'Rourke, Amy Klobuchar, Tulsi Gabbard, Jay Inslee, John Delaney

    Night Two

    Night two (6/27) - note - Joe Biden will be center stage, flanked by Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders.
    Full lineup: Marianne Williamson, John Hickenlooper, Andrew Yang, Pete Buttigieg, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillbrand, Michael Bennet, Eric Swalwell.

    2 votes
    1. [2]
      moriarty
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      I think this split is rather unfortunate for Warren. It boggles my mind why they'd just draw straws for the placement instead of going by polls. And I honestly don't think a 10 person debate can...

      I think this split is rather unfortunate for Warren. It boggles my mind why they'd just draw straws for the placement instead of going by polls. And I honestly don't think a 10 person debate can work even once, let alone twice.

      They should really do these primaries like a reality TV show with elimination rounds every week. :p

      1. Litmus2336
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        I don't worry for Warren. I think viewership might be lower, but I believe she'll demolish. And hopefully in future debates she will be with the rest of the high pollers.

        I don't worry for Warren. I think viewership might be lower, but I believe she'll demolish. And hopefully in future debates she will be with the rest of the high pollers.

  3. patience_limited
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    Funny story: This evening, I said to my spouse, "I would really have to hold my nose to vote for Joe Biden." His reply, with a monumental poker face: "Who's he running against?" Having said the...

    Funny story: This evening, I said to my spouse, "I would really have to hold my nose to vote for Joe Biden." His reply, with a monumental poker face: "Who's he running against?"

    Having said the same thing about Hillary Clinton (and voting for her anyway), I've got great clarity about how important it is to choose the lesser evil.

    2 votes
  4. spit-evil-olive-tips
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    NYT has an interactive where they asked the same 18 questions to each candidate, and all of them except Biden participated:...

    NYT has an interactive where they asked the same 18 questions to each candidate, and all of them except Biden participated:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/us/politics/2020-candidate-interviews.html

    Can't find a transcript (yet), which is disappointing, because I vastly prefer that to the series of short video clips. A lot of the questions and answers are quite interesting though.

    2 votes
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    1. alyaza
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      well, you tell me, honestly:

      So the solution is that all future President's become immune to their crimes, past and present? Am I understanding their argument correctly? That cannot be ehat they are saying.

      well, you tell me, honestly:

      The idea that a presidential candidate can permissibly endorse the potential prosecution of a political opponent is itself a sign of how much damage Trump has done to that principle.
      [...]
      Harris’s statement, and to a lesser extent Pelosi’s, is a long, long way from “Lock her up!” But it is also a lot closer to that promise than anyone should be comfortable with. In a liberal democracy, the government is constrained by a network of rules, such as the presumption of innocence, that limits the deployment of power. Trump’s own efforts to use the Justice Department to go after those he dislikes have provided us with a vivid demonstration of the importance of independent law enforcement. Nothing good will come of a system in which the chief executive may direct the full force of the state against those he believes have wronged him. And nothing good will come of a political candidate running for high office on the suggestion that her administration would prosecute a particular individual. As if to emphasize the norm-breaking aspect of Harris’s statement, Trump commented in an ABC interview that “probably, if I were in her position,” he would have said the same.

  6. Amarok
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    I enjoyed Andrew Yang's appearance on The Rubin Report. Two hours, covers many of his policy positions in detail, particularly UBI as a solution to the automation issue. More impressive is the...

    I enjoyed Andrew Yang's appearance on The Rubin Report. Two hours, covers many of his policy positions in detail, particularly UBI as a solution to the automation issue. More impressive is the policy section of his website I browsed after watching that interview.

    1 vote
  7. alyaza
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    oh, one thing i missed from last week which is getting some attention today: julian castro wants to get rid of qualified immunity, which makes it so that police officers are not personally liable...

    oh, one thing i missed from last week which is getting some attention today: julian castro wants to get rid of qualified immunity, which makes it so that police officers are not personally liable for actions they do on the job (Julián Castro Wants to Stop Police Brutality by Getting Rid of Qualified Immunity). this would generally be why cities, not individual officers, get sued for things like police shootings and end up having to pay for them. novel idea, and we'll see if other people pick it up because most candidates have been pretty quiet when it comes to things like law enforcement.

    also amy klobuchar decided to drop a long first hundred days priority list on medium, so that's a thing i guess.

    1 vote
  8. [4]
    alyaza
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    some stories for the morning: Revisiting 2016 campaign, Trump launches reelection bid in Florida: donald's formal kickoff rally fell back almost entirely on the tropes he used to get elected in...

    some stories for the morning:

    1 vote
    1. [3]
      alyaza
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      oh also, the "joe biden is a fucking idiot" train left station today at full speed, as last night joe decided it'd be cool to praise senator james eastland an avowed dixiecrat and white...

      oh also, the "joe biden is a fucking idiot" train left station today at full speed, as last night joe decided it'd be cool to praise senator james eastland an avowed dixiecrat and white supremacist whose greatest hits include but are by no means limited to:

      • strongly rejecting african-american participation in world war two, especially of african-americans enlisting, to which he argued that "the Negro soldier was physically, morally, and mentally incapable of serving in combat" and that the "boys from the South were fighting to maintain white supremacy."
      • being involved in the far-right, white supremacist citizen's councils movement
      • signing the southern manifesto
      • saying that "the Constitution of the United States was destroyed" as a result of brown v. board of education
      • testifying to the senate on brown v. board of education that "The Southern institution of racial segregation or racial separation was the correct, self-evident truth which arose from the chaos and confusion of the Reconstruction period. Separation promotes racial harmony. It permits each race to follow its own pursuits, and its own civilization. Segregation is not discrimination ... Mr. President, it is the law of nature, it is the law of God, that every race has both the right and the duty to perpetuate itself. All free men have the right to associate exclusively with members of their own race, free from governmental interference, if they so desire."
      • calling the mississippi burning murders a hoax
      • decrying the black people of montgomery as "slimy, juicy, unbearably stinking niggers ... African flesh eaters"
      • calling for the white race to commit grievous acts of violence against black people on his handbills in all forms possible.
      • never apologizing for or even renouncing his previous beliefs, despite trying to court the black vote and black people in later years of his career

      biden also decided to stake his support behind herman talmadge, another great guy who also just so happened to be an avowed dixiecrat who categorically oppose civil rights legislation and desegregation. great lot to stake yourself to, dude.

      4 votes
      1. [2]
        alyaza
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        this is continuing to progress as we speak: bill de blasio threw the first stone last night: It’s 2019 & @JoeBiden is longing for the good old days of “civility” typified by James Eastland....

        this is continuing to progress as we speak:

        3 votes
        1. alyaza
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          we enter day 2 of this entirely needless mess: unsurprisingly, booker did not apologize because he really has nothing to apologize for here nancy pelosi is taking the CBC line: "That's not what...

          we enter day 2 of this entirely needless mess:

          again, this was entirely needless by biden and his advisers told him not to do it, and now it's a miniature three-ring circus.

          2 votes
  9. [9]
    json
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    These threads are so annoying showing up each week when you just don't give a damn about this subject.

    These threads are so annoying showing up each week when you just don't give a damn about this subject.

    1. [8]
      alyaza
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      i mean... you can filter them pretty easily? and the whole reason for these threads is so that the 2020 election doesn't dominate ~news.

      i mean... you can filter them pretty easily? and the whole reason for these threads is so that the 2020 election doesn't dominate ~news.

      4 votes
      1. [7]
        json
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        Yeah I get it. And I've just added 2020 us presidential election as a filter. But that blocks out the other stuff that I might have some interest in. Perhaps each recurring thread should have some...

        Yeah I get it. And I've just added 2020 us presidential election as a filter.

        But that blocks out the other stuff that I might have some interest in.
        Perhaps each recurring thread should have some tag unique to the series so that the specific series can be filtered.

        1. [2]
          Deimos
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          Would the ability to hide individual topics do a better job of covering this for you? Then you wouldn't need to set up any actual filters, but could just hide the new topic once a week.

          Would the ability to hide individual topics do a better job of covering this for you? Then you wouldn't need to set up any actual filters, but could just hide the new topic once a week.

          2 votes
          1. json
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            It could help. I'll keep recurring.weekly filtered for a while and see how I go. Trying to describe my reason for wanting to filter these things, the best I can come up with is using sports and...

            It could help. I'll keep recurring.weekly filtered for a while and see how I go.

            Trying to describe my reason for wanting to filter these things, the best I can come up with is using sports and not politics: I don't mind seeing the headline of Country A wins cricket match against Country B, but I don't need to see the topic of Cricket world cup week 3 rankings.

            2 votes
        2. [5]
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          1. [4]
            Deimos
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            Sure, it's possible. That's not how the tag-filtering system works right now though, so it would require doing work on it to make it possible, interface work to be able to define tag combinations...

            Sure, it's possible. That's not how the tag-filtering system works right now though, so it would require doing work on it to make it possible, interface work to be able to define tag combinations instead of just individual tags, and so on. I don't have any specific plans to work on that in the near future, so it's unlikely to happen any time soon.

            3 votes
            1. [4]
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              1. [3]
                Deimos
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                It's definitely something that an open-source contribution could do. There isn't anything related to site functionality that only I have access to. It probably won't be a simple change though, it...

                It's definitely something that an open-source contribution could do. There isn't anything related to site functionality that only I have access to.

                It probably won't be a simple change though, it involves quite a few different pieces.

                3 votes
                1. [2]
                  json
                  Link Parent
                  Speaking of open source contributions. Adding /?tag={tag} links to the list of filtered tags on the front page side bar would provide an alternative way to see filtered topics to the general...

                  Speaking of open source contributions.
                  Adding /?tag={tag} links to the list of filtered tags on the front page side bar would provide an alternative way to see filtered topics to the general unfiltered view of the front page.

                  eg.

                  Filtered topic tags (1)

                  2 votes