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House votes to condemn Trump’s language as racist

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  1. [4]
    alyaza
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    the fact that republicans as a caucus are more concerned with trump being called a racist than him actually being a racist demonstrates both how openly ethnonationalist a lot of the party is now...

    the fact that republicans as a caucus are more concerned with trump being called a racist than him actually being a racist demonstrates both how openly ethnonationalist a lot of the party is now and how opportunistic even the people who aren't ethnonationalists in the party are that they'd rather go down with the ship than try and salvage any semblance of appeal to the moderate voter. this sort of shit where they pander to open racists and try to set themselves up as a party which cares for the white majority went over like a lead balloon in a body of water in 2018 when they tried it, and i don't anticipate it's going to go much better in the leadup to 2020 either.

    20 votes
    1. acdw
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      I really hope you're right, but post-2016 has made me so cynical about the process. I'm also not sure if Trump will peaceably step down, even in 2024. I really hope I'm just being paranoid here...

      this sort of shit where they pander to open racists and try to set themselves up as a party which cares for the white majority went over like a lead balloon in a body of water in 2018 when they tried it, and i don't anticipate it's going to go much better in the leadup to 2020 either.

      I really hope you're right, but post-2016 has made me so cynical about the process. I'm also not sure if Trump will peaceably step down, even in 2024. I really hope I'm just being paranoid here but it's hard to tell any more.

      2 votes
    2. [2]
      moocow1452
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      Gotta wonder if the average voter is more concerned with being called a racist than actual racism though. Might be the cynic talking, but if the meme machine picks up on the message "if you don't...

      Gotta wonder if the average voter is more concerned with being called a racist than actual racism though. Might be the cynic talking, but if the meme machine picks up on the message "if you don't vote for Trump, this is the future of America and the culture war is all for naught," then it's going to be a long election, at the very least.

      2 votes
      1. alyaza
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        i mean, the average voter pretty clearly isn't a big fan of racism and culture war bullshit considering that donald is batting 0/2 in winning the popular vote in major electoral cycles and he had...

        Gotta wonder if the average voter is more concerned with being called a racist than actual racism though.

        i mean, the average voter pretty clearly isn't a big fan of racism and culture war bullshit considering that donald is batting 0/2 in winning the popular vote in major electoral cycles and he had to win the presidency--by the narrowest of margins even then--on a quirk of the system that really shouldn't exist in the first place.

        3 votes
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    1. Neverland
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      Here is "leftist" Google's news and the "liberal media" on this topic: https://i.imgur.com/YAqIzGY.png It's pretty amazing and disgusting. At least CNN got the headline somewhat right, and I do...

      Here is "leftist" Google's news and the "liberal media" on this topic:
      https://i.imgur.com/YAqIzGY.png

      It's pretty amazing and disgusting. At least CNN got the headline somewhat right, and I do realize that this grouping does not reflect the final vote... but still.

      4 votes
  3. alyaza
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    despite the motion here, journalists are still really going out of their way to try and avoid calling something that is pretty clearly a racist take racist--NPR's vice president even decided to...

    despite the motion here, journalists are still really going out of their way to try and avoid calling something that is pretty clearly a racist take racist--NPR's vice president even decided to seriously die on this hill for some bizarre fucking reason: Opinion: Report On Racism, But Ditch The Labels

    journalists remain unequivocally incapable of covering the trump administration, i suppose.

    6 votes
  4. [6]
    goodbetterbestbested
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    Side note: the mainstream media has latched on to calling this group of Congresswomen a "squad," with all the sexist undertones to that label as well. I heard NPR use it the other day and I was...

    Side note: the mainstream media has latched on to calling this group of Congresswomen a "squad," with all the sexist undertones to that label as well. I heard NPR use it the other day and I was surprised that no one had mentioned that calling them a "squad," like some bully group in high school, was not appropriate.

    3 votes
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      gtwillwin
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      Odd, I don't read into that term being remotely pejorative or sexist. "The squad" is a pretty common way to refer to your group of friends, at least for Millennials and Gen Z. It's kinda the same...

      Odd, I don't read into that term being remotely pejorative or sexist. "The squad" is a pretty common way to refer to your group of friends, at least for Millennials and Gen Z. It's kinda the same thing as referring to your group as "the gang". The usage of "squad" seems completely normal and well-intentioned to me in this context and like gpl mentioned, the Congresswomen use it themselves.

      13 votes
      1. goodbetterbestbested
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        I feel like calling a group of Congresswomen a "squad" is pejorative, but maybe that's just me. It's one of those things that takes on a different cast if you use it to refer to yourself and your...

        I feel like calling a group of Congresswomen a "squad" is pejorative, but maybe that's just me. It's one of those things that takes on a different cast if you use it to refer to yourself and your colleagues playfully, versus someone else using it to describe you and your colleagues in your professional capacity.

        1 vote
    2. gpl
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      For what it's worth, it is a term that some of them at least seem to endorse. AOC for example has instagram'd pictures of them with the "squad" label.

      For what it's worth, it is a term that some of them at least seem to endorse. AOC for example has instagram'd pictures of them with the "squad" label.

      8 votes
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      sublime_aenima
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      How is the term squad sexist?

      How is the term squad sexist?

      5 votes
      1. alyaza
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        it's literally not, no.t least because they've actively embraced and leaned into the label

        it's literally not, no.t least because they've actively embraced and leaned into the label

        5 votes