I mean if I was a police officer right now, I would be very wary of having anything to do with violent crime. If it became necessary to use deadly force, there almost certainly would be unrest,...
I mean if I was a police officer right now, I would be very wary of having anything to do with violent crime. If it became necessary to use deadly force, there almost certainly would be unrest, calls for firing, threats to my personal safety, etc., regardless of the circumstances of the situation.
It seems to me that collective guilt, not making any distinction between the guilty and others who share the same profession, is part of the problem. What other profession gets demonized this way?...
It seems to me that collective guilt, not making any distinction between the guilty and others who share the same profession, is part of the problem. What other profession gets demonized this way? I guess soldiers were back in the sixties, but we decided that was wrong.
"Defund the police" getting repeated approvingly seems like part of the problem. Even if it made sense to start over from scratch for some departments that can't be reformed, that doesn't mean it always does.
We should remember that the police are, among other things, workers. Treat them like shit and they're going to look for alternatives. Who's going to take a job like that if we demonize all police?
What nonsense is this? If you see that the system you are a part of is demonizing and killing minorities and don't leave you're somehow not complicit? Soldiers back in the 60s were at least...
It seems to me that collective guilt, not making any distinction between the guilty and others who share the same profession, is part of the problem.
What nonsense is this? If you see that the system you are a part of is demonizing and killing minorities and don't leave you're somehow not complicit?
Soldiers back in the 60s were at least drafted against their will - there was legal repercussions for not following through. These people are choosing to take up their profession. Let that sit with you awhile.
No desire to engage with the liberal shit I have no common ground with in this thread...I hope every pig leaves and every department meets this fate. That said, the problem with policing isn't...
No desire to engage with the liberal shit I have no common ground with in this thread...I hope every pig leaves and every department meets this fate. That said, the problem with policing isn't created by the police themselves. They certainly don't make things better and American police in particular are hell-bent on amplifying the already sickening nature of the institution, but they exist to serve capital and unfortunately it's not as easy as just taking out the police.
Basically this quote from Omali Yeshitela (as used in "Police State" by Dead Prez):
You have the emergence in human society of this thing that's called the State. What is the State? The State is this organized bureaucracy: it is the police department. It is the Army, the Navy. It is the prison system, the courts, and what have you. This is the State; it is a repressive organization. But the state and gee well, you know, you've got to have the police because if there were no police, look at what you'd be doing to yourselves -- you'd be killing each other if there were no police! But the reality is the police become necessary in human society only at that juncture in human society where it is split between those who have and those who ain't got.
I mean if I was a police officer right now, I would be very wary of having anything to do with violent crime. If it became necessary to use deadly force, there almost certainly would be unrest, calls for firing, threats to my personal safety, etc., regardless of the circumstances of the situation.
Seriously, you're blaming people for not getting killed?
Okay, let's take a step back. Why do you want to know how many officers were killed?
Alright, this thread's started out extremely poorly and is full of direct and indirect antagonism already. No interest in seeing that continue.
It seems to me that collective guilt, not making any distinction between the guilty and others who share the same profession, is part of the problem. What other profession gets demonized this way? I guess soldiers were back in the sixties, but we decided that was wrong.
"Defund the police" getting repeated approvingly seems like part of the problem. Even if it made sense to start over from scratch for some departments that can't be reformed, that doesn't mean it always does.
We should remember that the police are, among other things, workers. Treat them like shit and they're going to look for alternatives. Who's going to take a job like that if we demonize all police?
What nonsense is this? If you see that the system you are a part of is demonizing and killing minorities and don't leave you're somehow not complicit?
Soldiers back in the 60s were at least drafted against their will - there was legal repercussions for not following through. These people are choosing to take up their profession. Let that sit with you awhile.
No desire to engage with the liberal shit I have no common ground with in this thread...I hope every pig leaves and every department meets this fate. That said, the problem with policing isn't created by the police themselves. They certainly don't make things better and American police in particular are hell-bent on amplifying the already sickening nature of the institution, but they exist to serve capital and unfortunately it's not as easy as just taking out the police.
Basically this quote from Omali Yeshitela (as used in "Police State" by Dead Prez):
Unfortunately, that split's as strong as ever.