22 votes

Vaccines: A measured response

8 comments

  1. [4]
    DanBC
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    I cannot stress enough to people living outside the UK just how FUCKING SHIT TIER all the UK media is. Like he says, we spent years losing our minds over MMR based on a study that was so obviously...

    I cannot stress enough to people living outside the UK just how FUCKING SHIT TIER all the UK media is. Like he says, we spent years losing our minds over MMR based on a study that was so obviously bogus, in the face of overwhelming science that vaccinations are safe.

    And I don't just mean the newspapers that went all in on the "MMR causes" angle either. For me, the worst papers are the ones who were both-sidesing this. There were papers who were putting up scientists saying "there isn't any problem, we know vaccines are safe" and then putting up a charismatic crank saying whatever garbage the cranks were saying, and then finishing with a perky "well, who knows, maybe they're safe, but maybe they are KILLING ALL YOUR BABIES and we really do need more information".

    See also MRSA, things that cause or protect against cancer, anything to do with gay people, anything to do with trans people, global warming, crime stats, Europe, etc etc etc.

    12 votes
    1. [3]
      bilbodwyer
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      Ugh, tell me about it. It's god awful, but people lap it up. Bigotry and ignorance are rampant because of our media, and it's only getting worse.

      Ugh, tell me about it. It's god awful, but people lap it up. Bigotry and ignorance are rampant because of our media, and it's only getting worse.

      7 votes
      1. [2]
        teaearlgraycold
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        You might not know enough to say, but is it better or worse than America’s media situation?

        You might not know enough to say, but is it better or worse than America’s media situation?

        1 vote
        1. bub
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          I definitely don't know enough to say anything meaningful, but... It sure feels like a lot of the Western world is currently going headlong down the same rabbit hole of nationalistic...

          I definitely don't know enough to say anything meaningful, but...

          It sure feels like a lot of the Western world is currently going headlong down the same rabbit hole of nationalistic anti-intellectual conservative-by-default fearmongering populism that isn't actually populism because it harms the common person rather than helping them (but who's going to know the difference when we're all so stupid?).

          4 votes
  2. Adys
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    Took me a while to get to this one. Long video eh. I didn't realize this video was entirely about Wakefield and how fucked up the entire MMR reporting thing and everything that ensued was. Just......

    Took me a while to get to this one. Long video eh.

    I didn't realize this video was entirely about Wakefield and how fucked up the entire MMR reporting thing and everything that ensued was.

    Just... Woah. My god. I had no idea how bad this was.

    And to think i believed the antivax movement primarily was a french export.

    8 votes
  3. [2]
    Tygrak
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    Yep, this video was amazing, as expected from hbomb. It's incredible how good some of the video essays, or whatever we call them are now. More on topic: I don't know why everyone is such a skeptic...

    Yep, this video was amazing, as expected from hbomb. It's incredible how good some of the video essays, or whatever we call them are now.

    More on topic: I don't know why everyone is such a skeptic when talking about vaccines. Everyone already said this a million times but how can a quite large chance of getting a possibly serious disease be better than a tiny chance to get autism or whatever, or even a more realistic side-effect?

    4 votes
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      1. Omnicrola
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        Yea, combine the doubt as you've described with the inertia of all you have to do to not be vaccinated is..... nothing. Getting the vaccine requires actually finding out where to get it,...

        Yea, combine the doubt as you've described with the inertia of all you have to do to not be vaccinated is..... nothing. Getting the vaccine requires actually finding out where to get it, scheduling it, and keeping the appointment. If you're stressed out by other things, that can be quite a large ask.

        3 votes
  4. Omnicrola
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    Really "enjoyed" this (well actually it was quite upsetting, but, you know). Very well done. Haven't subscribed to HBomber before, but am now, I'd love to watch more like this.

    Really "enjoyed" this (well actually it was quite upsetting, but, you know). Very well done. Haven't subscribed to HBomber before, but am now, I'd love to watch more like this.

    2 votes