I wanted to quote that first sentence but wanted to leave the author's defense of it in as well, so I wasn't cherry picking... Also this is basically the whole "article" so do go ahead and click...
However, if I had to speculate, I’d say that the reason libertarians are mostly men is that men are not as good as women at logical reasoning. This is not to say all men are not as good at logical reasoning as all women. It’s just to say that the logical-reasoning bell curve for men is to the left of the logical-reasoning bell curve for women.
I wanted to quote that first sentence but wanted to leave the author's defense of it in as well, so I wasn't cherry picking...
Also this is basically the whole "article" so do go ahead and click the link, it won't take you long...
That said I'd reason that, outside of their speculation, another reason is that libertarianism is inherently a conservative, "right wing" political belief and much like most flavors of right wing beliefs, we see a patriarchal hierarchy meaning that libertarian men are more likely to talk about it whereas libertarian women will let their husbands talk about it.
My source is purely anecdotal from the libertarian women and their husbands that I know.
I'm opposed to gender essentialism on principle, but it is a bit fun to see it being used the opposite way it usually is. I think this is the first time I've seen "women are better at logical...
I'm opposed to gender essentialism on principle, but it is a bit fun to see it being used the opposite way it usually is. I think this is the first time I've seen "women are better at logical reasoning than men"!
I largely agree with you, I think libertarianism actually appeals to those who benefit from current systems and hierarchies. This also probably explains why libertarians are principally white men, as well.
It is fundamentally an ideology about creating a level playing field for competition except with no attempt to remedy hundreds of years for historically disadvantaged people where the playing...
It is fundamentally an ideology about creating a level playing field for competition except with no attempt to remedy hundreds of years for historically disadvantaged people where the playing field was anything but level.
It's also 9 years old meaning this guy was 27 at the time of writing it and shortly after this got fired for stupid tweets if I have the right dude. More questioning why is it posted here
Also this is basically the whole "article" so do go ahead and click the link, it won't take you long...
It's also 9 years old meaning this guy was 27 at the time of writing it and shortly after this got fired for stupid tweets if I have the right dude.
(paraphrased) What even is this? From "someone more interested in the philosophical debate" I'd expect an argument that relies on more than unsourced broad generalizations and ad hominem...
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men are dum lol
What even is this? From "someone more interested in the philosophical debate" I'd expect an argument that relies on more than unsourced broad generalizations and ad hominem implications about both libertarians and men.
I've only spoken in depths with two libertarians before about their beliefs. One of them was young and couldn't understand why we needed so many rules and why couldn't people sell their votes and...
I've only spoken in depths with two libertarians before about their beliefs.
One of them was young and couldn't understand why we needed so many rules and why couldn't people sell their votes and simply pay for our own security.
Me: what stops your hired body guards from killing you and taking your whole wealth rather than what you pay them.
Response: then they would have a reputation for not being trustworthy.
Me: okay but now they're rich. But let's say it's a small amount of wealth, not enough to live by. What stops a truly wealthy man from paying your men more to kill you, in exchange for continued loyal employment?
The young man is now a grown up person and no longer a libertarian.
The other man [redacted].
Anyway, perhaps in general libertarians (both gender) like to imagine keeping all the privileges they have today, plus new and wonderful freedoms. Whereas non libertarians (both gender) shudder at the thought of living in an even more cutthroat and lawless world. Perhaps the divide is in how closely one can imagine being not part of the protected class: the more secure someone feels and the farther they are from being the subject of violence, the more they imagine the world to still be a safe place for them without current "red tape".
I think this is a more realistic and balanced view. I identified as libertarian when I was younger. If I had to really boil down the "why" it would be that I found myself in a very complex world...
One of them was young and couldn't understand why we needed so many rules
I think this is a more realistic and balanced view. I identified as libertarian when I was younger. If I had to really boil down the "why" it would be that I found myself in a very complex world of adulthood, and liked the allure of having less overhead. At the time I was a new hire at a very large and bureaucratic airplane company, so I think that contributed a bit. Also, Ron Paul was the figurehead for the party at the time, and seemed very level headed and charismatic.
Also, that "article" is laughably short. It doesn't even seem finished to me.
I wanted to quote that first sentence but wanted to leave the author's defense of it in as well, so I wasn't cherry picking...
Also this is basically the whole "article" so do go ahead and click the link, it won't take you long...
That said I'd reason that, outside of their speculation, another reason is that libertarianism is inherently a conservative, "right wing" political belief and much like most flavors of right wing beliefs, we see a patriarchal hierarchy meaning that libertarian men are more likely to talk about it whereas libertarian women will let their husbands talk about it.
My source is purely anecdotal from the libertarian women and their husbands that I know.
I'm opposed to gender essentialism on principle, but it is a bit fun to see it being used the opposite way it usually is. I think this is the first time I've seen "women are better at logical reasoning than men"!
I largely agree with you, I think libertarianism actually appeals to those who benefit from current systems and hierarchies. This also probably explains why libertarians are principally white men, as well.
It is fundamentally an ideology about creating a level playing field for competition except with no attempt to remedy hundreds of years for historically disadvantaged people where the playing field was anything but level.
It's also 9 years old meaning this guy was 27 at the time of writing it and shortly after this got fired for stupid tweets if I have the right dude.
More questioning why is it posted here
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What even is this? From "someone more interested in the philosophical debate" I'd expect an argument that relies on more than unsourced broad generalizations and ad hominem implications about both libertarians and men.
Thank you… as a former libertarian myself I was hoping for a thoughtful argument I could chew on, but this is like a low-effort troll.
I've only spoken in depths with two libertarians before about their beliefs.
One of them was young and couldn't understand why we needed so many rules and why couldn't people sell their votes and simply pay for our own security.
Me: what stops your hired body guards from killing you and taking your whole wealth rather than what you pay them.
Response: then they would have a reputation for not being trustworthy.
Me: okay but now they're rich. But let's say it's a small amount of wealth, not enough to live by. What stops a truly wealthy man from paying your men more to kill you, in exchange for continued loyal employment?
The young man is now a grown up person and no longer a libertarian.
The other man [redacted].
Anyway, perhaps in general libertarians (both gender) like to imagine keeping all the privileges they have today, plus new and wonderful freedoms. Whereas non libertarians (both gender) shudder at the thought of living in an even more cutthroat and lawless world. Perhaps the divide is in how closely one can imagine being not part of the protected class: the more secure someone feels and the farther they are from being the subject of violence, the more they imagine the world to still be a safe place for them without current "red tape".
I think this is a more realistic and balanced view. I identified as libertarian when I was younger. If I had to really boil down the "why" it would be that I found myself in a very complex world of adulthood, and liked the allure of having less overhead. At the time I was a new hire at a very large and bureaucratic airplane company, so I think that contributed a bit. Also, Ron Paul was the figurehead for the party at the time, and seemed very level headed and charismatic.
Also, that "article" is laughably short. It doesn't even seem finished to me.