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New US surgeon general pick wants to "raise the vibration of humanity"

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  1. gowestyoungman
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    This is not a problem. I lived around many hippies in Hawaii for a few years and am fluent in Woo Woo. Ergo,, the ocean's waves are resonating with my soul frequency, and I can feel the...

    This is not a problem. I lived around many hippies in Hawaii for a few years and am fluent in Woo Woo.

    Ergo,, the ocean's waves are resonating with my soul frequency, and I can feel the crystalline energy of life and light wrapping around my aura like a warm embrace from the Earth Mother herself. The healing Spirit is alive in every breath, guiding me to align with the cosmos and flow in harmony with the heartbeat of the universe.

    Maybe I should send a resume for Assistant Surgeon General.

    Having mocked that part, she's not totally off base about the link between gut biome and mental health. There's a considerable link although exactly HOW they're linked needs a lot more study. Source: Family member who is a psychiatrist and has studied gut biome for their Ph.D.

    17 votes
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    AnthonyB
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    [Meta/off-topic] I altered the original title and removed Trump's name from it. The article isn't about Trump or his selection process, and ~society has plenty of Trump-focused posts. Should this...

    [Meta/off-topic] I altered the original title and removed Trump's name from it. The article isn't about Trump or his selection process, and ~society has plenty of Trump-focused posts. Should this article generate any discussion, I think it would be better if it were centered around Casey Means rather than "oh great, Trump did another crazy thing."

    5 votes
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      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      Yeah we can just talk about how she's doing crazy things instead. Not a huge improvement IMO but also it shouldn't be ignored. I'm sure we'd all love if we could fix our depression by fixing our...

      Yeah we can just talk about how she's doing crazy things instead. Not a huge improvement IMO but also it shouldn't be ignored.

      I'm sure we'd all love if we could fix our depression by fixing our gut biome but I'm very skepticalz especially when afaik the vast majority of dairy farmers don't drink their milk raw either. (My partner grew up on a farm, they milked cows but weren't a dairy farm. They knew how dirty udders get.)

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        boxer_dogs_dance
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        As far as I can tell, gut biome is a very different issue than raw milk. At minimum, antibiotics can kill beneficial gut bacteria. Fecal Transplant treatment - the Cleveland Clinic

        As far as I can tell, gut biome is a very different issue than raw milk. At minimum, antibiotics can kill beneficial gut bacteria. Fecal Transplant treatment - the Cleveland Clinic

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          DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Yes they are. But the same person is advocating for both. And that makes me incredibly skeptical. (As noted there's interesting work being done on gut biomes and mental health but no where near...

          Yes they are. But the same person is advocating for both. And that makes me incredibly skeptical. (As noted there's interesting work being done on gut biomes and mental health but no where near enough to say "fix the former and you fix the latter.")

          Putting someone like her in this position is dangerous

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  3. AnthonyB
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    In her writing and speaking gigs, Casey Means highlights the importance of metabolic health, an enthusiasm for many alternative health practitioners. Like many of them, she assigns a mystically important role to the gut: In Good Energy, Means states that “conditions like depression and schizophrenia” are “tied to poor gut bacteria,” adding that “researchers can identify a person with depression or schizophrenia just by analyzing their gut bacteria composition.” (The study Means appears to be citing specifically says that more research is needed to determine whether there’s a causal link between schizophrenia and the gut microbiome.) She’s also hailed raw dairy, writing how she wants “to be free to form a relationship with a local farmer, understand his integrity, look him in the eyes, pet his cow, and then decide if I feel safe to drink the milk from his farm.”

    But Means’ medical opining has occasionally veered in a more New Age direction. She has claimed that “the universe” speaks to her and that people can “manifest” what they want by writing it down. “Perhaps the body is simply the material ‘radio receiver’ through which we can ‘tune in’ to the divine,” she wrote in an October 2024 newsletter. “We will get instructions (through human inspiration and reason) for what we need to do to raise the vibration of humanity and create a sustainable future… The future of medicine will be about light. I don’t exactly know how yet.”

    3 votes
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    hobbes64
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    Here's a different article that is less unkind to her “She Was Tearful About It”: The Nuances of Casey Means’s Medical Exit and Antiestablishment Origins I don't really know anything about her...

    Here's a different article that is less unkind to her “She Was Tearful About It”: The Nuances of Casey Means’s Medical Exit and Antiestablishment Origins

    I don't really know anything about her other than these few articles. She's a confusing choice at least and surely there were better candidates.

    2 votes
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      MimicSquid
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      Eeeh. Less unkind, but still painting a picture of someone who burned out under the pressure of becoming a doctor and then recontextualized that pivot to give her a different path to economic...

      Eeeh. Less unkind, but still painting a picture of someone who burned out under the pressure of becoming a doctor and then recontextualized that pivot to give her a different path to economic success at a cost to the system she left behind.

      I can appreciate the message that we need to take the profit motive out of health care while still dreading the rate at which she's likely to change things and the actual things she's likely to change.

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      1. Sodliddesu
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        "Take the profit motive" out of healthcare but not with healthcare for all, just options to make us feel like we're doing something while we Steve Jobs ourselves.

        "Take the profit motive" out of healthcare but not with healthcare for all, just options to make us feel like we're doing something while we Steve Jobs ourselves.

        8 votes