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Race report: 'UK not deliberately rigged against ethnic minorities'

Posted by 0d_billie
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56585538

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Title
Race and racism 'less important in explaining social disparities' - report
Published
Mar 31 2021
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767 words

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  1. [3]
    DanBC
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    Here's the report. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/974507/20210331_-_CRED_Report_-_FINAL_-_Web_Accessible.pdf It is fucking...

    Here's the report. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/974507/20210331_-_CRED_Report_-_FINAL_-_Web_Accessible.pdf

    It is fucking infuriating.

    Across any metric black people do worse in healthcare.

    That's as patients - black women are 4 times more likely than white women to die in pregnancy or childbirth; black men are less likely to be in less intensive MH services but much more likely to be detained under the Mental Health Act, to be detained under the forensic sections of the act, to be on a community treatment order, or to be subjected to restraint and rapid tranquilisation. When we look at restraint we see an over representation of black men being restrained in a face down ("supine") position, or in a face up but on the floor ("prone") position and an under-representation in "guiding hand" restraint.

    It's also as staff. There is an under-representation of black people in very senior leadership positions. When we look at healthcare professionals other than doctors we see a higher percentage of black staff at band 5 (entry level for a registered nurse) and lower percentage of black staff as we go up the bandings (ie, more senior positions).

    When we look at complaints handling we see black staff are more likely to have a complaint made about them; are more likely to have this complaint upheld; are more likely to have complaint and concerns referred to a professional regulator; are more likely to undergo regulatory action; and are more likely to be suspended and erased from the register.

    This often leads to mistakes and large payouts. See eg this man who was defending himself against a racist abuse: https://www.doughtystreet.co.uk/news/david-stephenson-secures-ps1m-payout-victim-racial-bias

    The current UK government has lurched to the right. It's really worrying.

    Luckily most NHS organisations will ignore this report, and instead focus on NHS WRES (NHS Workforce Race Equality Standard). https://www.england.nhs.uk/about/equality/equality-hub/equality-standard/

    (Lots of edits, sorry).

    If anyone can explain this without 1) using institutional racism (because this stupid report says that doesn't exist) and 2) without being massively racist I'd love to see it.

    8 votes
    1. DanBC
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      I mean, for fucks sake. Here they're saying that Black people are more likely to be criminals and so they're more likely to be stopped and searched. They've avoided the obvious explanation that...

      I mean, for fucks sake.

      Ethnic minority over-representation in the criminal justice system More broadly, people from ethnic minorities are overrepresented at many points of the criminal justice system. The largest disparities appear at the point of stop and search and, as the Lammy Review pointed out, at arrest, custodial sentencing and prison population. Among ethnic minority groups, Black people are usually the most overrepresented.368Black people were arrested at a rate over 3 times higher than White people in the year ending March 2020.369 People in Asian and Other (including Chinese) ethnic groups had the highest custody rates in 2018.370 The percentage of the prison population from ethnic minorities was 27% at 30 June 2020, almost twice the ethnic minority percentage in the population, with Black people and people in Mixed ethnic groups disproportionately represented.371, 372Figures from the Ministry of Justice also show over-representation of all ethnic minority groups among those convicted of serious crimes such as robbery and possession of weapon offences in England and Wales in 2019373 relative to their population shares at the last Census.374

      Research into the fairness of juries shows that jury conviction rates for ethnic minority and White groups are similar across a range of offence-types, with only small differences and no overall pattern.375 The circumstances surrounding any crime vary from group to group – which may impact upon sentencing. For instance, in April 2014 to March 2016,issues such as involvement with gangs – which can also relate to the coercion or exploitation of the convicted individual – show up in 34% of pre-sentence reports on Black young people, compared to 11% of young people in Asian and Other groups and 5% of White young people.376

      There are many reasons for the disproportionate numbers of ethnic minority people involved in violent crime as both victims and perpetrators, but the disparity casts a significant shadow over Black life, and also contributes to negative stereotypes of young Black men. Nevertheless, it is important to remember this context when we address the complex issue of stop and search

      Here they're saying that Black people are more likely to be criminals and so they're more likely to be stopped and searched.

      They've avoided the obvious explanation that disproportionate policing of certain populations will turn up more crime in that population, and lack of policing in other populations will ignore crime in that population.

      Or, more simply -

      Us: "the criminal justice system is institutionally racist"

      Them: "these statistics, that we gathered from that system, shows it isn't".

      4 votes
    2. DanBC
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      Here's a comment from NHS Providers. https://twitter.com/NHSProviders/status/1377253543514681349 "Within the largest employer in the country – the #NHS – there is clear and unmistakable evidence...

      Here's a comment from NHS Providers. https://twitter.com/NHSProviders/status/1377253543514681349

      "Within the largest employer in the country – the #NHS – there is clear and unmistakable evidence that staff from ethnic minorities have worse experiences at work and face more barriers in progressing their careers than their white counterparts."

      "While some progress has been made, to pretend that discrimination does not exist is damaging as is denying the link between structural racism and wider health inequalities."

      4 votes
  2. [4]
    0d_billie
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    A government-commissioned report has found that: I'll update this comment with a link when the report is properly released

    A government-commissioned report has found that:

    • Children from ethnic communities did as well or better than white pupils in compulsory education, with black Caribbean pupils the only group to perform less well
    • This success in education has "transformed British society over the last 50 years into one offering far greater opportunities for all"
    • The pay gap between all ethnic minorities and the white majority population had shrunk to 2.3% overall and was barely significant for employees under 30
    • Diversity has increased in professions such as law and medicine
    • But some communities continue to be "haunted" by historic racism, which is creating "deep mistrust" and could be a barrier to success

    The commission's report, which is due to be published later, concluded that the UK is not yet a "post-racial country" - but its success in removing race-based disparity in education and, to a lesser extent, the economy, "should be regarded as a model for other white-majority countries".

    "As a result, we came to the view that recommendations should, wherever possible, be designed to remove obstacles for everyone, rather than specific groups."

    I'll update this comment with a link when the report is properly released

    5 votes
    1. [3]
      0d_billie
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      As is tradition, the Beeb have updated the headline. Is anyone able to edit it? Race report: 'UK not deliberately rigged against ethnic minorities'

      As is tradition, the Beeb have updated the headline. Is anyone able to edit it?

      Race report: 'UK not deliberately rigged against ethnic minorities'

      4 votes
      1. PapaNachos
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        "deliberately" is doing a lot of work in that headline

        "deliberately" is doing a lot of work in that headline

        7 votes
      2. FishFingus
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        Well, that seems different from there being 'no institutional racism'. Are they walking that claim back now? Edit: I just did a quick Ctrl+F of institutionalized racism (s and z spellings), the...

        Well, that seems different from there being 'no institutional racism'. Are they walking that claim back now?

        Edit: I just did a quick Ctrl+F of institutionalized racism (s and z spellings), the entire sentence that the previous article headline was ostensibly quoting, and just the word institutionalis/zed. The only part I found which stated 'The Review found no evidence of systemic or institutional racism' seemed to be referring to the Timpson Report on education that was published in 2019.

        The list of definitions at the end, and how they were used, is worth reading.

        2 votes