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Coming to Kansas City: The first stadium built solely for pro women’s sports

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  1. [6]
    Jdtunn
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    I drove past this the other week accidentally cause I missed a turn. It's looking really good, but it's a shame it's way off on its own. There's not much around there.

    I drove past this the other week accidentally cause I missed a turn. It's looking really good, but it's a shame it's way off on its own. There's not much around there.

    3 votes
    1. [2]
      Pb_Enthusiast
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      I mean, yes but no. The streetcar extension will go down to the stadium, and the stadium itself is a quick walk from river Market area with loads to do. Overall it's much closer and better...

      I mean, yes but no. The streetcar extension will go down to the stadium, and the stadium itself is a quick walk from river Market area with loads to do. Overall it's much closer and better situated IMO than any other stadium in KC

      3 votes
      1. Jdtunn
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        I was unaware the extension was planned to go that far. This is good news to me as I'm moving up by River Market next month. But your point stands, it is definitely better situated than most other...

        I was unaware the extension was planned to go that far. This is good news to me as I'm moving up by River Market next month. But your point stands, it is definitely better situated than most other stadiums in KC, with maybe the exception of Sporting KC's stadium with its proximity to Legends. My hope is that it brings more development to that area north of the market, but I unfortunately am a little pessimistic about it.

        1 vote
    2. [3]
      UP8
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      That's kinda true about a lot of stadiums. I went to Philadelphia with my son and a friend to go see the Battleship New Jersey and other things in the area and we wound up walking in the...

      That's kinda true about a lot of stadiums.

      I went to Philadelphia with my son and a friend to go see the Battleship New Jersey and other things in the area and we wound up walking in the "neighborhood" where the sports stadiums are in Philadelphia and they have a row of them and really nothing us in a big open space between the commercial docks and the navy shipyard. (Got to see an old aircraft carrier at the shipyard as well as some Ticonderoga-class missile ships which were historic to me even if I couldn't go inside.)

      It's a very challenging problem to serve the crowd at a stadium with automobiles and a freeway network, there is something to say for the European model where there is a train station or two (keep the supporters of the sides apart from each other) and a few special trains can easily accommodate supporters of the away team to their home city and if you are a little bit tipsy on the way home it's no problem at all.

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        Sodliddesu
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        Dallas has the American Airlines center with a light rail access just across the street, so the stadium is surrounded by apartments and business with a few parking garages. Compare that to the...

        Dallas has the American Airlines center with a light rail access just across the street, so the stadium is surrounded by apartments and business with a few parking garages.

        Compare that to the Rangers or Cowboys, who are surrounded by parking lots.

        1. UP8
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          The stadium is an extreme case also compared to other land uses. That is, maybe 50,000 people want to leave the stadium after a game once a week and that runs headlong against the limit of a lane...

          The stadium is an extreme case also compared to other land uses. That is, maybe 50,000 people want to leave the stadium after a game once a week and that runs headlong against the limit of a lane of traffic being able to support maybe 6000 vehicles an hour whereas passenger rail can handle orders of magnitude more.

          1 vote
  2. [2]
    4rm
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    I don't really understand what necessitates a stadium solely for women's sports. They mentioned accessibility in the article, but surely that's true for all other stadiums as well? What needs...

    I don't really understand what necessitates a stadium solely for women's sports. They mentioned accessibility in the article, but surely that's true for all other stadiums as well? What needs can't be met by existing stadiums?

    I think we need fewer, but multipurpose, stadiums, instead of many specific ones. Stadiums don't strike me as efficient use of land.

    3 votes
    1. UP8
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      I am not so sure if this is really a place where no men will ever play or if it just the first place that was built specifically for a women's pro team and what issues people had with them using...

      I am not so sure if this is really a place where no men will ever play or if it just the first place that was built specifically for a women's pro team and what issues people had with them using another stadium.

      So far as I can tell

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_Current

      is the women's team in Kansas City but there is also a men's MLS team

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporting_Kansas_City

      they play at

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Mercy_Park

      which is claimed to be the first '"European style" soccer complex in the United States'. Certainly the cost of stadiums is a concern people have. I grew up in Manchester, NH where certain boosters wanted to build a stadium for a long time but the public was really skeptical. They built the Verizon Center which was very successful with more than one sport being played there and also a lot of big name concerts, it really did everything the boosters said it did so the city built a baseball field with a really embarassing name that turned out to be a bust. It seemed to me to be a smart move for Los Angeles to get two NFL teams and have them play at the same field.

      3 votes
  3. [4]
    UP8
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    I am plugged into European news sources, particularly The Guardian so I've been following the Women's World Cup with a lot of interest and noticing that many countries are being rocked by the...

    I am plugged into European news sources, particularly The Guardian so I've been following the Women's World Cup with a lot of interest and noticing that many countries are being rocked by the degree of viewership for the Women's World Cup which is approaching that of the Men's World Cup.

    In the US though we are still mostly indifferent about soccer, I'm a bit disappointed in how little interest the Tildes community (which I think is mostly USian) has in soccer (e.g. the Premier League) and notably none of my friends and relatives here have followed it enough to be aware of the WWC final game this morning, who was playing, what the outcome was, etc. To be fair the geography was about as bad as it could be, the WWC final was at 6am this morning on the east coast.

    The US did light the fire for women's soccer and youth soccer is absolutely huge here but it does have a ways to go in terms of getting support, although developments like this seem to show the trend going in a good direction.

    2 votes
    1. [3]
      MangoTiger
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      The timing was probably a big barrier for a lot of casual viewers. I would've liked to watch it, but as far as I could tell a cable subscription was required to view it. The US team being...

      The timing was probably a big barrier for a lot of casual viewers. I would've liked to watch it, but as far as I could tell a cable subscription was required to view it. The US team being eliminated sooner than expected likely dampened some enthusiasm too.

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        UP8
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        It was on OTA Fox 68 in Syracuse. Definitely the US being eliminated early was a bummer for us, Germans felt the same way. The best thing in OTA soccer is that NBC has a Premier League game around...

        It was on OTA Fox 68 in Syracuse. Definitely the US being eliminated early was a bummer for us, Germans felt the same way.

        The best thing in OTA soccer is that NBC has a Premier League game around noon every Saturday, I don't know how they pay for it because there are no commercial breaks during the game and most of the promotional content (signs on the field, ads on jerseys) are aimed at the UK market. I see just a few promotional images on the graphics that seem to be for US brands like Progressive Insurance. It's a good broadcast though because the commentators are real brits who know football.

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        1. asstronaut
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          I wholly support your last sentence. I sacrificed sleep to watch the WWC as much as I could, and ended up rather watching the Spanish feed on Telemundo (to get the vibe) than listen to US...

          I wholly support your last sentence. I sacrificed sleep to watch the WWC as much as I could, and ended up rather watching the Spanish feed on Telemundo (to get the vibe) than listen to US commentators if my VPN to AU or the UK was being glitchy.

          That being said…
          Free OTA Premier League games are a “gateway drug” just to get you hooked.
          Say you develop an interest in the League and the level of competition, so you figure signing up for YouTube TV ($75)will get you what you want to see. Nope. Most games are only shown on Peacock ($10), but not the important ones, so you still need the YTTV.
          After a season’s watching you realize there’s more going on… there’s also the FA Cup (ESPN+) and something even more enticing: the Champions League (featured on Paramount+). If, unfortunately, you develop a expanded interest in the German, French, Dutch, Spanish or Italian leagues, you will face a different animal altogether.

          In the end it’s just easier, cheaper and more convenient to go after that elusive X on the crudely drawn map.

          1 vote