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Columbus Blue Jackets' Johnny Gaudreau killed in NJ crash involving suspected drunk driver

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  1. [10]
    dhcrazy333
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    This is just heartbreaking. Apparently was in town for his sister's wedding which was supposed to be today. I can't imagine what the Gaudreau family is going through right now. Rest in peace, Johnny.

    This is just heartbreaking. Apparently was in town for his sister's wedding which was supposed to be today. I can't imagine what the Gaudreau family is going through right now. Rest in peace, Johnny.

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    1. [9]
      gowestyoungman
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      His parents lost two sons on the same day, just out for a bike ride. And Im sure the wedding isnt going to go as planned. What a gut wrenching day for that family. Just horrible. And further to my...

      His parents lost two sons on the same day, just out for a bike ride. And Im sure the wedding isnt going to go as planned. What a gut wrenching day for that family. Just horrible.

      And further to my post about alcohol and how glibly its treated - f*** drunk drivers. Look how much grief this poor excuse of a human being caused because he couldn't stop putting a bottle to his lips. This happens THIRTY TIMES A DAY in the US. More than once a hour, a family is being informed that they have lost a loved one because some asshole cant stop drinking. If it were a disease causing that much death and destruction we'd be shutting down the country til we found out what was causing it and how to stop it. But nope, we just keep advertising what a 'good time' you can have when you drink. INSANITY.

      I hope that driver gets a life sentence.

      8 votes
      1. [4]
        updawg
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        I agree with most of what you said but the flu kills about 100 Americans a day and we just tell people to go get a shot if they feel like it. People are very glib about drunk driving. If you got...

        If it were a disease causing that much death and destruction we'd be shutting down the country til we found out what was causing it and how to stop it.

        I agree with most of what you said but the flu kills about 100 Americans a day and we just tell people to go get a shot if they feel like it.

        People are very glib about drunk driving. If you got drunk and started brandishing a gun, you would be treated very differently than if you got drunk and started "brandishing" a car. They're both deadly weapons.

        12 votes
        1. [3]
          Thrabalen
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          The biggest problem is its ubiquity. A car is an entirely common sight to anyone living in the U.S. Despite it being a behemoth of a couple of tons of metal propelled at surface street speeds...

          The biggest problem is its ubiquity. A car is an entirely common sight to anyone living in the U.S. Despite it being a behemoth of a couple of tons of metal propelled at surface street speeds faster than we'll ever manage on foot, we treat cars as if they're toys.

          They shouldn't be restricted, but they should be respected.

          3 votes
          1. [2]
            Khue
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            Better planned cities and more public transportation wouldn't hurt to reduce fatalities either.

            Better planned cities and more public transportation wouldn't hurt to reduce fatalities either.

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            1. Thrabalen
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              This is very true, but in many cities, the horse has already left the barn and is well along the countryside. We have a public transportation system in the city I live in, but corruption,...

              This is very true, but in many cities, the horse has already left the barn and is well along the countryside.

              We have a public transportation system in the city I live in, but corruption, ineptitude, and a general disdain for improving the service, along with the cost of the system due to the size and density of the service area, doesn't make a compelling case. Which is a shame, but also not unexpected.

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        davek804
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        Direct a bit more of your rage at the corporations pushing it and a bit less at the folks afflicted (often times) with SUD: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_use_disorder. I was surprised...

        Direct a bit more of your rage at the corporations pushing it and a bit less at the folks afflicted (often times) with SUD: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_use_disorder. I was surprised at the individual language and vitriol you used here.

        6 votes
        1. [3]
          Cheeseburger
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          3 votes
          1. [2]
            davek804
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            Yeah, I read that post the other day and noticed this was the same user. I didn't have much to say in the previous one. But, here, in this thread, this user is now using dehumanizing language...

            Yeah, I read that post the other day and noticed this was the same user. I didn't have much to say in the previous one. But, here, in this thread, this user is now using dehumanizing language against other individuals. I find that inappropriate, and was compelled to speak up.

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            1. gowestyoungman
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              He killed two brothers, destroyed their sister's wedding (supposed to happen the next day), ruined a family, and I'M dehumanizing by calling him an asshole? Im not going to sugarcoat a murderer. I...

              He killed two brothers, destroyed their sister's wedding (supposed to happen the next day), ruined a family, and I'M dehumanizing by calling him an asshole? Im not going to sugarcoat a murderer.

              I have worked with the street population in person, for five years. I know addiction issues firsthand and obviously Ive experienced them very directly in my own family. I am of the VERY firm conviction that calling "Substance Abuse Disorder" a mental illness is another way that we downplay personal responsibility. Its just wrong.

              eg. Schizophrenia is a mental illness. You are born with it and you do not need to do anything to 'activate' it, it just happens. You cant stop it no matter how hard you try. There is no 'cure' for it.

              Drinking til you're drunk is NOT a mental illness. You are not born with it. You need to make the ACTIVE choice to drink and keep drinking to 'activate' it, it doesn't happen by itself. You CAN stop it, millions of people have. And there is a cure for it, but it involves personal responsibility, discipline and diligence for the rest of one's life - something MANY people choose to ignore and blame on their "disorder"

              I stand firmly by the credo: "Once is a mistake, twice is a choice, three times is a habit" Alcoholics are alcoholics by CHOICE.

              And yes, I am indeed angry. Killing innocent people because someone cant make the decision to stop drinking doesnt need to be acceptable in our society anymore. The costs are too great.

  2. battybattybat
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    I’m not sure if the site updated the headline, but can we change the post title to reflect that his brother Matthew was killed as well? My thoughts go out to the family, I can’t imagine what...

    I’m not sure if the site updated the headline, but can we change the post title to reflect that his brother Matthew was killed as well?

    My thoughts go out to the family, I can’t imagine what they’re going through right now.

    3 votes