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Sony a7C II and a7CR hands-on: Entry-level no longer

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  1. [6]
    stu2b50
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    I do think the framing that PetaPixels (note: they use to be DPReview before Amazon was going to shut down the site. It ended up being sold, but they still spin off into PetaPixels before that) is...

    I do think the framing that PetaPixels (note: they use to be DPReview before Amazon was going to shut down the site. It ended up being sold, but they still spin off into PetaPixels before that) is a bit weird.

    but suffered from what many entry-level cameras suffer from: a lack of manual control dials, and a bargain basement viewfinder.

    I mean the EVF is still pretty mid, so it's just an additional dial on the front. While nice, I feel like most people shoot in a mixture of aperture priority or manual + auto iso, so there was already another dial, just dedicated to exposure comp. In terms of "professionalism", it still doesn't have dual SD card slots.

    That being said, these are neat cameras. It's crazy that you can get a BETTER a7iv for less money MSRP, in a smaller size. Cameras simultaneously are advancing quite quickly (and also not that quickly, in terms of the end result - lenses matter more, after all). It was not even a decade ago that mirrorless cameras were rare, and now you have full frame mirrorless cameras in tiny form factors readily available.

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    1. PetitPrince
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      Off-topic: Errrr no: PetaPixel and DPReview are two different and established websites. What you're talking about are Chris Niccolls and Jordan Drake, two peoples who happens to have such a...

      Off-topic:

      PetaPixels (note: they use to be DPReview before Amazon was going to shut down the site. It ended up being sold, but they still spin off into PetaPixels before that)

      Errrr no: PetaPixel and DPReview are two different and established websites. What you're talking about are Chris Niccolls and Jordan Drake, two peoples who happens to have such a charisma and such a following that they move a lot of viewers wherever they go. They indeed use to produce videos for dpreview, and the camera store before that.

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      mild_takes
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      The small EVF IMO makes it less than pro. I had an a7rii and when it died bought the a7c. Man that was a step down... but I agree, missing one dial isn't really a concern for a lot of people....

      The small EVF IMO makes it less than pro. I had an a7rii and when it died bought the a7c. Man that was a step down... but I agree, missing one dial isn't really a concern for a lot of people. Agreed about dual SD slots; some pros had moved to the a7 cameras before dual slots came along but now that there's a dual slot option there is no excuse.

      That said, I knew at least one pro photographer that had dual slots and didn't bother to learn how to set them up. She was shooting weddings.

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      1. Sodliddesu
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        Well, there's the answer. Anyone crazy enough to do that is exactly that. Crazy I mean. That said, I've Professionally shot without dual SD for years. Granted, dual CF/SD on my 5DIV but that's...

        She was shooting weddings.

        Well, there's the answer. Anyone crazy enough to do that is exactly that. Crazy I mean.

        That said, I've Professionally shot without dual SD for years. Granted, dual CF/SD on my 5DIV but that's more about the choice of format than redundancy. Quality of life wise though it's a great add on.

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      2. [2]
        stu2b50
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        I’m sure there’s a lot of people that do that. Videographers and photographers are notoriously less strict about backups than the tech people, for instance. Realistically an SD card will probably...

        I’m sure there’s a lot of people that do that. Videographers and photographers are notoriously less strict about backups than the tech people, for instance. Realistically an SD card will probably never fail on you (apart from mechanical failures - if you drop it in water that’s on you) in your life. It’ll just suck really badly if it happens.

        1. mild_takes
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          I agree with you about photographers in general being less concerned about this stuff, but there are no re-shoots for a wedding It creates an interesting divide in that community between between...

          I agree with you about photographers in general being less concerned about this stuff, but there are no re-shoots for a wedding

          It creates an interesting divide in that community between between the more artsy photographer who goes with the flow and doesn't consider the worst case scenario and the photographer who has 4 camera bodies with them (2 on person, 2 in car) just in case 3 bodies die (this isn't an exaggeration).