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Apple is removing Alex Jones and Infowars' podcasts from iTunes

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    EightRoundsRapid
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    Facebook and Spotify as well, according to The Guardian. And not before time. He's a menace to civil society and doesn't deserve a platform...

    Facebook and Spotify as well, according to The Guardian. And not before time. He's a menace to civil society and doesn't deserve a platform

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/aug/06/apple-removes-podcasts-infowars-alex-jones

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      1. EightRoundsRapid
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        Yes, I understand that, but removing him from a platform puts up a barrier that millions of people are too lazy to go around. While the podcast will still be available, no Apple users will stumble...

        Yes, I understand that, but removing him from a platform puts up a barrier that millions of people are too lazy to go around. While the podcast will still be available, no Apple users will stumble across it by chance while casually browsing for something to listen too, which should significantly reduce new listeners.

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    KapteinB
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    I've never watched or listened to an episode of any of his shows. Does he actually spew hate speech? Or is harassment included in the hate speech guidelines of these companies?

    Apple confirmed that it notified Jones of the decision to remove the five shows under its hate speech guidelines earlier this weekend.

    I've never watched or listened to an episode of any of his shows. Does he actually spew hate speech? Or is harassment included in the hate speech guidelines of these companies?

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    1. BoredomAddict
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      He has repeatedly stated his belief that tragedies like the Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting are hoaxes, and his followers have been known to harass the parents of the victims. He is a...

      He has repeatedly stated his belief that tragedies like the Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting are hoaxes, and his followers have been known to harass the parents of the victims. He is a ghoulish, hateful cretin and I'm happy that these companies are finally removing this garbage from their platforms.

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    2. s4b3r6
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      He hasn't explicitly called for violence, so far as I know, but he does get extremely excited and happy when it happens to groups he doesn't like, such as all Moslems. It seems pretty clearly hate...

      He hasn't explicitly called for violence, so far as I know, but he does get extremely excited and happy when it happens to groups he doesn't like, such as all Moslems.

      It seems pretty clearly hate speech, at least to me.

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    3. clerical_terrors
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      He's usually careful to stay within legal bounds, after all his business depends on it, but he will gladly and uncritically repeat dogwhistles or throw bones at crypto-racists or facists. And it's...

      He's usually careful to stay within legal bounds, after all his business depends on it, but he will gladly and uncritically repeat dogwhistles or throw bones at crypto-racists or facists. And it's profitable to do so.

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      1. samhh
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        Wow, I didn't know about the harassment of the parents. That is utterly abominable.

        Wow, I didn't know about the harassment of the parents. That is utterly abominable.

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      2. KapteinB
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        All of that is awful. Little of that sounds like hate speech. Apple/Facebook/Spotify/YouTube has had plenty of reasons to ban him before, including his continuous lies, his selling of questionable...

        All of that is awful. Little of that sounds like hate speech.

        Apple/Facebook/Spotify/YouTube has had plenty of reasons to ban him before, including his continuous lies, his selling of questionable supplements, and his harassment campaigns. They chose not to, instead banning him for hate speech. I'm not sure that sends the right signal, and it might be possible for Jones to make his way back into their services if his hate speech wasn't overt.

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