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Plex makes piracy just another streaming service

19 comments

  1. [9]
    hhh
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    this article is even more true when tools like sonarr and radarr exist to automate piracy

    this article is even more true when tools like sonarr and radarr exist to automate piracy

    9 votes
    1. [4]
      JXM
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      That looks a little technical for someone who isn’t relatively tech-savvy, but it seems totally doable if you have a modicum of tech experience.

      That looks a little technical for someone who isn’t relatively tech-savvy, but it seems totally doable if you have a modicum of tech experience.

      2 votes
      1. [3]
        NaraVara
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        Yeah I'm definitely looking into setting something like this up just for my friends and family. I expect I'll need to upgrade to a gigabit internet plan though. . .

        Yeah I'm definitely looking into setting something like this up just for my friends and family. I expect I'll need to upgrade to a gigabit internet plan though. . .

        1 vote
        1. [2]
          Douglas
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          ...hey friend!

          ...hey friend!

          1 vote
          1. ItchyOuch
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            I have my plex with gigabit and about 36T and 20T free... Even does hardware transcoding with a GTX 1070.

            I have my plex with gigabit and about 36T and 20T free... Even does hardware transcoding with a GTX 1070.

    2. [4]
      Eabryt
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      I wish I could use sonarr and radarr on an Nvidia Shield, but as far as I'm aware you can't. Someday I'll move my Plex to an actual home server, but for now the Shield is a pretty great device.

      I wish I could use sonarr and radarr on an Nvidia Shield, but as far as I'm aware you can't.

      Someday I'll move my Plex to an actual home server, but for now the Shield is a pretty great device.

      2 votes
      1. [3]
        JXM
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        I’ve been running a Plex server on a MyCloud PR2100 for the past three or so years and never had an issue. It can do full HD streaming without breaking a sweat since it does hardware encoding....

        I’ve been running a Plex server on a MyCloud PR2100 for the past three or so years and never had an issue. It can do full HD streaming without breaking a sweat since it does hardware encoding.

        When I bought mine, it was the only NAS that offered hardware decoding, but I think that some other NASes support it now.

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          Eabryt
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          That looks super cool, and honestly not too terrible in price either. I'm assuming 0TB means I can just plug in my own drives?

          That looks super cool, and honestly not too terrible in price either. I'm assuming 0TB means I can just plug in my own drives?

          1. JXM
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            Yeah. That’s what I did. I just bought my own drives and threw them in. Cost an extra $300 or so. But that was a few years ago when drives were a lot more expensive than they are now. I’d probably...

            Yeah. That’s what I did. I just bought my own drives and threw them in. Cost an extra $300 or so. But that was a few years ago when drives were a lot more expensive than they are now. I’d probably go lower capacity and use SSDs if I had to do it again.

  2. [10]
    JXM
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    The title is a little over the top, but I find the idea of these self organizing groups of people who share access to one another’s Plex servers fascinating. I’ve got around 900 titles in my Plex...

    The title is a little over the top, but I find the idea of these self organizing groups of people who share access to one another’s Plex servers fascinating.

    I’ve got around 900 titles in my Plex library, most of which are DVDs that I digitized about 2 or 3 years ago so I could get rid of them. Basically, anything that wasn’t some sort of fancy packaging or something with sentimental value got copied to my computer and then donated to Goodwill. The rest of the titles are stuff I got in the mail from Netflix, copied and sent back.

    The only people who have access to it are my family, who I would feel comfortable giving the physical media to anyway, so I didn’t see the problem with letting them access it.

    6 votes
    1. [7]
      Adys
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      Title isn't over the top, it's exactly on point. I talked about it briefly here:...

      Title isn't over the top, it's exactly on point. I talked about it briefly here:
      https://tildes.net/~tech/fmi/netflix_stock_drops_more_than_10_as_q2_earnings_show_huge_decline_in_new_subscribers_including_a#comment-3m37

      Plex, aside from a few UI glitches and UX issues, is a better experience than Netflix when it's off a virtually unlimited library.

      I remember deciding to finally watch Brooklyn Nine Nine because I saw it pop up on Netflix and when I reached season 5... What the hell, where's season six? WELP back to the old fashioned way.

      To hell with all these streaming services.

      13 votes
      1. [5]
        Emerald_Knight
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        The problem usually isn't the streaming service, but licensing issues. It's not uncommon now for only some content to be licensed out while the rest is walled off behind either a separate...

        The problem usually isn't the streaming service, but licensing issues. It's not uncommon now for only some content to be licensed out while the rest is walled off behind either a separate streaming service or a DVD purchase.

        Streaming is becoming increasingly more fragmented and used as a marketing vehicle. It's gradually becoming cable 2.0 and it's terrible. Unsurprisingly, people are once again sailing the high seas to cut out the twenty different middlemen.

        16 votes
        1. [2]
          babypuncher
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          Licensing issues also arise from the cost of producing content, and the expectation of making a profit. Netflix was able to license lots of high quality syndicated programming for cheap, because...

          Licensing issues also arise from the cost of producing content, and the expectation of making a profit. Netflix was able to license lots of high quality syndicated programming for cheap, because it was content that was already profitable in it's first run on live TV and cable. Licensing shows and movies to Netflix was just gravy. Now that the first run for new content is shifting from legacy platforms to streaming, the cost burden formerly shouldered by cable and broadcast networks needs to be shouldered by the streaming services.

          I'm not sure how or why people expected everything to be perpetually available under a single $10/mo subscription. It just isn't sustainable without either cutting down the quality or quantity of content produced.

          10 votes
          1. flip
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            Isn't the streaming race just the war between networks, but on a different battleground? Netflix has the early lead, but with the big players coming to the fray, it should get interesting. But...

            Isn't the streaming race just the war between networks, but on a different battleground? Netflix has the early lead, but with the big players coming to the fray, it should get interesting.

            But isn't it the same as ABC, NBC, etc., fighting for your attention with the same kind of programming? But since we can't have the streaming services pay for themselves with ads, you get a subscription (like a cable company). Having more options is probably more than what most people have in their houses, where the majority has one, maybe two, cable options and that's it.

            Yeah, it's annoying that it's fragmented, but I'm betting that there will be consolidation in the future...

            1 vote
        2. NaraVara
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          Rumor has it that this is basically the reason Apple TV has languished for so long. Apple isn't happy until they can make a UI or interface that seamlessly connects all these various services...

          The problem usually isn't the streaming service, but licensing issues. It's not uncommon now for only some content to be licensed out while the rest is walled off behind either a separate streaming service or a DVD purchase.

          Rumor has it that this is basically the reason Apple TV has languished for so long. Apple isn't happy until they can make a UI or interface that seamlessly connects all these various services together. But none of the vendors are happy to lose that sort of control over when and how people access their media. So they're at an impasse.

          The TV and movie industries learned a lot of wrong lessons from the music industry. The RIAA was way behind the ball on things and when piracy was about to tear them apart Apple saved the day with a monetization strategy that actually worked. (And then Spotify showed up later with a new one). But in both cases, the content owners have no leverage, the platform does. I don't think the TV and movie industries will let themselves fall into the same position. They will not allow themselves to get put over a barrel by platform owners the way the music industry is now, and they have a lot more clout to push back since they're co-owned by telecom monopolies (Comcast/NBC, Time Warner, etc.) or they're consolidated into giant conglomerates (Disney).

          6 votes
        3. The_Fad
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          Once again, marketing ruins everyone's good time.

          Streaming is becoming increasinglyg more fragmented and used as a marketing vehicle.

          Once again, marketing ruins everyone's good time.

          4 votes
      2. JXM
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        I still think it’s a bit hyperbolic. But I take your point. I (and the few friends I know who also run Plex servers), only use them to stream files locally. My main takeaway from this article was...

        I still think it’s a bit hyperbolic. But I take your point.

        I (and the few friends I know who also run Plex servers), only use them to stream files locally. My main takeaway from this article was that there are networks of people who share Plex content with one another.

        2 votes
    2. [2]
      NaraVara
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      I guess the next phase of development in the internet is going to be people nostalgic for the decentralized days of Usenet and interconnected private servers to try to port back the convenient UX,...

      The title is a little over the top, but I find the idea of these self organizing groups of people who share access to one another’s Plex servers fascinating.

      I guess the next phase of development in the internet is going to be people nostalgic for the decentralized days of Usenet and interconnected private servers to try to port back the convenient UX, interoperability, and functionality of the massive platform monsters back into our own little custom brewed servers and hosts again.

      I've seen multiple PhP forums communities I used to be a part of try to restart over the past year too. It's an interesting swing-back of the pendulum, almost like when people started venturing out of America Online into the "real Internet."

      7 votes
      1. rmgr
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        I mean hell lately I've been playing with BBS software! (apparently there is still server software being maintained and there are still people who use BBSes)

        I mean hell lately I've been playing with BBS software! (apparently there is still server software being maintained and there are still people who use BBSes)

        5 votes