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My prediction about autonomous cars: Answers with Joe

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    Eric_the_Cerise
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    Point #0: Just a really nice, laid-back, informative youtuber; recent discovery of mine. If he's new to you, check out more of his stuff. Main Point: This video is a better-presented version of an...

    Point #0: Just a really nice, laid-back, informative youtuber; recent discovery of mine. If he's new to you, check out more of his stuff.

    Main Point: This video is a better-presented version of an argument I've been making to people for 5-6 years now.

    My Thesis in a Nutshell: The automotive industry is going to go mostly-autonomous and mostly-EV much sooner and much faster than most people believe (3-5 years), leading to huge economic & employment disruptions globally.

    Discuss ...

    My personal subquestion: Whether you agree or not, when (if ever) do you think the bottom will drop out on the resale value of manual-drive-only ICE cars? Put another way, if you buy a near-new ICE car today for, let's say, $20,000 ... 5 years from now, will it be worth $5,000, $500, or "pay someone to haul it away"?

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    1. skybrian
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      Nobody knows the future. Some people pretend. Waymo has more experience than anyone and they seem to be moving rather slowly. It's unclear why that is or whether they will be able to overcome...

      Nobody knows the future. Some people pretend.

      Waymo has more experience than anyone and they seem to be moving rather slowly. It's unclear why that is or whether they will be able to overcome whatever problems they are having. It's not something we can predict based on general principles.

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  2. Kuromantis
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    I agree with this video, but like Loire said, the timeframes he gave are just not realistic. I agree with his prediction thatcby the mid-late 2020's electric cars will probably be cheaper to...

    I agree with this video, but like Loire said, the timeframes he gave are just not realistic. I agree with his prediction thatcby the mid-late 2020's electric cars will probably be cheaper to maintain and cost the same as regular cars in the US, Europe and other developed regions but that's about it. Automatic vehicles apparently will be released by most car companies in the next few years according to the statements he showed but pricetags are yet to be estimated,meaning that until then, all estimates of actual mainstream viability probably need a decade just as a margin of error. My estimate for when fully (level 4/5) automatic vehicles become less expensive than normal cars lies between 2030 and 2040 for this reason because we are just too early to make any predictions, not to mention how cars are physical innovations that still need to go through the supply chains of their manufacturers and shipped,along with the charging ports for these cars, meaning they will be cheapest in developed countries like the US, Europe, Japan and South Korea, where potential customers are highest, road and charger infrastructure is best and shipping is cheapest,while the rest of the world lags behind for a few decades longer, and these would only be sales figures for people buying cars, so anyone who bought a normal car before this probably won't buy a new one, meaning that many cars would still be gas driven for many decades after this point due to the sheer cost of buying a new car.

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