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Content control features (and is there a feature roadmap?)

I am wondering if it is planned to provide the user with methods to control the content they see, ie; filtering the topics in a group or comments in a topic based on various criteria including keywords.
I looked around to see if this has been asked, or if there was a roadmap document, but did not find anything. (this is no criticism, I do realize we are early in the dev cycle and I cannot image just one person being able to do all this!)

I do hope so. No matter how high the quality of the topics/comments there will always be things a user may not want to see.

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  1. [6]
    hungariantoast Link
    https://tildes.net/settings/filters You may, at the moment, filter topics out (so that you do not see them) if they contain any of the tags you put in that field. So, if I were to add tildes to...

    https://tildes.net/settings/filters

    You may, at the moment, filter topics out (so that you do not see them) if they contain any of the tags you put in that field. So, if I were to add tildes to the field on the page I linked, I would not see this topic, since you tagged it with the tildes tag.

    In the future, filtering topics based on the domain they link to might also be possible.

    Using an extension like uBlock Origin, it is also possible to hide content posted by a specific username, but this is not a native feature of the website.

    As far as the groups go, like ~news, you can unsubscribe from that group if you don't want to see anything posted in it at all.

    That's about it for right now, but there's been plenty of discussion about other ways to sort, highlight, or filter content based on criteria.

    If you haven't done it already, reading the documentation for the site is recommended, and the first blog post is also a good read. Links to both can be found at the bottom of this page.

    Do you have a specific idea in mind?

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    1. [5]
      HannibalAnthrope Link Parent
      I read the blog, announcement, the first message in my inbox, the mechanics, and I think that's it - but do you mean something else by documentation? I will certain read what's available, although...

      I read the blog, announcement, the first message in my inbox, the mechanics, and I think that's it - but do you mean something else by documentation? I will certain read what's available, although it won't help in this case as you've answered my question - and thank you for the reply!

      I like the vision for Tildes, and the desire for high-quality intelligent discourse.
      For me the most valuable capability is being able to control - to some degree - what I see, or more accurately, what I spend my time reading or scrolling past.
      I just read a thread discussing placement of the comment box being at the bottom of the page. And I won't lie it concerns me, because there was a post saying it was intentional and that the intent was to "encourage the user to read the posts and perhaps reply to one instead of posting a new top comment" (oops that should NOT be a quote, I am paraphrasing]. My personal view, for what it's worth, is that if it's not a gross violation of the rules, or just plain invalid data, that core functionality shouldn't be used to "encourage" users to behave the way the owner desires. I pointed out that there are a lot of reasons why reading every post isn't appropriate or necessary. But the underlying intent being hinted at certainly concerns me.

      Being forced to accept content and waste more time dealing with either chaff or even just stuff I'm not interested in.... is why I spend very little time on social sites, and after just two months, have already signed off Reddit (as RES filterReddit is not working and doesn't appear to be a priority).
      Not a big loss to the community LOL but having to work at finding something that interests me just isn't my thing.

      I would certainly welcome the opportunity to share my ideas with the Tildes devs at some point if this bubbles up near the top. I do have some ideas in mind, although I'm not sure they are in-line with the vision of the site. I shall continue lurking with enthusiasm and watching the site evolve!

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      1. hungariantoast Link Parent
        The documentation is one of the links at the bottom of the page. It contains other pages outlining aspects of the site, in addition to the mechanics, which it sounds like you already found. As far...

        The documentation is one of the links at the bottom of the page. It contains other pages outlining aspects of the site, in addition to the mechanics, which it sounds like you already found.

        As far as the comment box being at the bottom, yes, the design was intentional. There's been a lot of discussion about why this is the case, but the basic idea is that it slightly encourages users to read comments before making a new one and makes replies to other comments more likely than a separate, top level comment, which doesn't tend to do as much for discussion as a reply to another comment.

        Or at least, that's the gist of it from what I remember off the top of my head. Perhaps, when Tildes is larger and scrolling down to the end of the page becomes a chore, this will be changed, but you can currently adjust settings for your profile to help with this.

        Found on this page here, you can set comments that are new to the discussion since the last time you visited a topic's comment page to be highlighted orange, and old comments that were already there to be collapsed automatically. This makes scrolling down a page with a lot of comments much faster, for what it's worth.

        Right now the only developer Tildes has, that's being paid to work on the site (through donations by users) is @Deimos, who I typically try not to annoy with incessant pinging, but it felt necessary in this comment.

        So yeah, for right now, he's the only developer getting money for working on this site, but as the open source nature of the site allows, several others have already contributed code and documentation changes to the site as well.

        If you have any ideas for additions, changes, or removals from the site's mechanics (and future or potential mechanics) then you should post a topic to the ~tildes group with the tag suggestions. That's the best way to get some discussion happening around your ideas.

        Some ideas, especially minor ones that would be easy to implement, get a corresponding issue created on Tildes' GitLab page, which you can, like the documentation, find a link to at the bottom of the page.

        From there, if Deimos or another contributor wants to work on solving that issue, whether it be fixing a bug, adding a feature, or doing whatever may be necessary to "fix" the issue, they can request to work on it, and the issue will be marked as in progress and the user working on it will be assigned to that issue.

        At least, again, that's how it works as far as I can remember off the top of my head.

        If you have any other questions, just let me know, and odds are, Deimos and plenty of other users are going to have read your comment already, since Tildes is still small enough to make that easy to do.

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      2. Algernon_Asimov Link Parent
        You might be interested in these comments by Deimos: About how all design encourages certain types of behaviour and discourages other ones. About whether anyone will read your new top-level...

        My personal view, for what it's worth, is that if it's not a gross violation of the rules, or just plain invalid data, that core functionality shouldn't be used to "encourage" users to behave the way the owner desires. I pointed out that there are a lot of reasons why reading every post isn't appropriate or necessary. But the underlying intent being hinted at certainly concerns me.

        You might be interested in these comments by Deimos:

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      3. [2]
        cfabbro (edited ) Link Parent
        This is probably the most relevant bit of the documentation for what you're wondering about: https://docs.tildes.net/overall-goals#let-users-make-their-own-decisions-about-what-they-want-to-see...

        This is probably the most relevant bit of the documentation for what you're wondering about:
        https://docs.tildes.net/overall-goals#let-users-make-their-own-decisions-about-what-they-want-to-see

        And while I can't definitively say whether or not any features like precisely what you're looking for are going to be implemented, particularly with regards to comment filtering... there has been some discussion about extending the topic filter to be more robust:
        https://tildes.net/~tildes.official/37t/daily_tildes_discussion_more_filtering_options

        And if you're just generally curious where Tildes might be headed in the future I would suggest checking out the Tildes Gitlab issues page. The issues labeled with Feature are those that Deimos has decided for sure will be added to the site eventually:
        https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/issues?label_name%5B%5D=feature

        And those with Suggestion and Investigate are those that are possibilities but nothing has definitively been decided on yet:
        https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/issues?label_name%5B%5D=suggestion
        https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/issues?label_name%5B%5D=investigate

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        1. hungariantoast Link Parent
          Hm, not to derail this precious thread we have going, but I love that this existed and I never bothered to find it before I wrote that long ass suggestion topic a week ago. Had I seen that this...

          Hm, not to derail this precious thread we have going, but I love that this existed and I never bothered to find it before I wrote that long ass suggestion topic a week ago. Had I seen that this issued existed (and it's my fault that I didn't) I would have totally written that topic differently.

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  2. Algernon_Asimov Link
    My work-in-progress "how to" guide for Tildes gets its first outing! You can filter topics from your feed: here are the instructions for doing so.

    My work-in-progress "how to" guide for Tildes gets its first outing!

    You can filter topics from your feed: here are the instructions for doing so.

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