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Are music sub groups coming soon?

I'm wondering because I'm feeling kind of bad for flooding ~music with my fan girl content. I think it's quality content. I realize a lot of it's been heard but I think every sub ~ group (is that correct phrasing?) needs to have a solid base of content to build on. I don't want to be that person spamming content that people might not like, but I am trying to contribute quality stuff I don't see.

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  1. [11]
    Amarok
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    I'm honestly expecting ~music to be one of the very first that develops sub-groups. There's no question in my mind that we're going to be looking at a full-scale, direct import of reddit's entire...

    I'm honestly expecting ~music to be one of the very first that develops sub-groups. There's no question in my mind that we're going to be looking at a full-scale, direct import of reddit's entire music hierarchy. Music on social networking sites has a very strange evolution... I think the overall reddit structure will work out much better here, with the group-subgroup model and the best of all the smaller music subs bubbling up into the main one. As the sub-groups multiply, the quality in ~music itself should increase and diversify, rather than becoming nothing but top40 repeats. I wonder if it might get to a point where there are no submissions to ~music anymore, and everything goes into the subgroups instead - and might not that be the best way to maintain the quality level?

    I've been holding back posting a bit because it'll flood the tildes front pages.

    What we might do in the meantime, though, is revive something special that died out on reddit long, long ago - /r/listentous. Back when the place was alive and active, it was the top quality music sub, and easily the best quality music selection I've ever come across. I wonder if we might re-invent the format here and use it to give ~music a little culture.

    8 votes
    1. [7]
      cfabbro
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      Right, that’s the eventual plan, but the biggest problem is until we implement the “bubble up” style subgroups feature we won’t be able to fracture the communities too much into subgroups or they...

      Right, that’s the eventual plan, but the biggest problem is until we implement the “bubble up” style subgroups feature we won’t be able to fracture the communities too much into subgroups or they will just wind up as ghost towns. So yes, more ~music subgroups are coming but we need to do it intelligently and at the proper pace.

      For now @Eivetsthecat; we are asking people to try to limit their posting rate to match the traffic. If you post 5 songs in a row and they all only get 1 vote, then it’s less likely someone else will feel it’s appropriate to post something they want to... so let’s all try to be cognizant of allowing other people their turn to post as well for now.

      I understand how excited everyone is and desperate they are to share their favourite music, myself included, but right now we simply don’t have the user base to support every user posting a song every 5 minutes.

      7 votes
      1. [5]
        Amarok
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        Yep, it'll flood the other content right off the page at the rates we're used to posting. I can do 10 albums a day without breaking a sweat - forever, and so can the rest of the listentothis team...

        Yep, it'll flood the other content right off the page at the rates we're used to posting. I can do 10 albums a day without breaking a sweat - forever, and so can the rest of the listentothis team that's come over here. Normally that's not a problem, but while we're in 'activity-sort' mode bootstrapping the site, it's a bit rude.

        There's also this discussion-aspect to explore that never really worked well on reddit. I think for now it might be best to go with some of the topics that tended to fare poorly on reddit - genre threads, mixtape competitions (my favorite), build-a-mix threads, weekly album discussion threads where we all nominate and vote on albums then listen to the winner(s) and talk about them. Those would all become highly-active single threads with discussion, rather than track scattershot.

        7 votes
        1. [4]
          Whom
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          Mixtape competitions sound great holy shit

          Mixtape competitions sound great holy shit

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          1. Amarok
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            Well, summertime is almost here - @yewknee feel like bringing back your old tradition? I think we could all go for a little summer mix series action.

            Well, summertime is almost here - @yewknee feel like bringing back your old tradition? I think we could all go for a little summer mix series action.

            2 votes
    2. [2]
      Flashynuff
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      The potential of tildes' hierarchy in regards to ~music is honestly the single most exciting thing to me about this site (which should come as no surprise to anyone who knows me from reddit, lol)....

      The potential of tildes' hierarchy in regards to ~music is honestly the single most exciting thing to me about this site (which should come as no surprise to anyone who knows me from reddit, lol). I'd love to see this place develop into what /r/listentothis always wanted to be but fucked up by the fundamental flaw of being on reddit.

      3 votes
      1. Amarok
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        We did promise everyone that listentothis would survive the death of the website that created it, one way or another. ~music here should become much more like it organically, and without the...

        We did promise everyone that listentothis would survive the death of the website that created it, one way or another. ~music here should become much more like it organically, and without the ceaseless popularity battles. Once tildes is scraping metadata from links and all the submissions get automatic popularity-level tagging, we can simply create a 'view' of ~music using those tags that duplicates the listentothis ethos.

        I'm imagining a header across the top of ~music that looks a lot like the /r/listentothis genre bar we built - except it's a tag-based search bar, and clicking on the items in the bar flips the view and changes what tags we're searching for. In that system, listentothis is just one of those views, as is live music, music news, or any given genre of music. ~music itself becomes a sort of presentation-layer for all the content submitted below it.

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    3. Eivetsthecat
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      I'm really excited. I'm looking forward to contributing to the old school hip hop stuff. Do you think people have a preference in terms of how users post? I personally like things broken down and...

      I'm really excited. I'm looking forward to contributing to the old school hip hop stuff. Do you think people have a preference in terms of how users post? I personally like things broken down and posted into individual topics even if they're from the same source. Some people though could get annoyed with 1000 posts in a sub group from a singular source. What do you think?

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  2. [2]
    EightRoundsRapid
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    There's nothing forcing anyone to listen to what you post. I say post the stuff you like, because someone else might like it too.

    There's nothing forcing anyone to listen to what you post.

    I say post the stuff you like, because someone else might like it too.

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    1. SourceContribute
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      I think this is why tags exist; people will get used to filtering for the stuff they want to see or don't want to see.

      I think this is why tags exist; people will get used to filtering for the stuff they want to see or don't want to see.

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  3. [2]
    mng
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    Over the weekend it's become completely overwhelming for me. I've lost the desire to keep up.

    Over the weekend it's become completely overwhelming for me. I've lost the desire to keep up.

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    1. Eivetsthecat
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      What has exactly, the flood of posts?

      What has exactly, the flood of posts?

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    Flashynuff
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    I sure hope so, but at the same time I think we're small enough that the content is welcome. And the stuff you've been posting is definitely quality! Besides, if people didn't want to see music,...

    I sure hope so, but at the same time I think we're small enough that the content is welcome. And the stuff you've been posting is definitely quality!

    Besides, if people didn't want to see music, they'd unsub from ~music. And if they do want to stay subscribed — then they should keep an open mind and welcome the quality content.

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      Eivetsthecat
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      Is there a way to delete or edit your posts? I'm trying to get mine uniform and it's not going well. I was attempting to repost content with uniform titles and just screwed it up...

      Is there a way to delete or edit your posts? I'm trying to get mine uniform and it's not going well. I was attempting to repost content with uniform titles and just screwed it up...

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        Flashynuff
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        You can't edit your title, but if you look right at the bottom of your post, you should see a 'Delete' button. I wouldn't worry that much about getting the titles uniform, as long as they've got...

        You can't edit your title, but if you look right at the bottom of your post, you should see a 'Delete' button. I wouldn't worry that much about getting the titles uniform, as long as they've got the artist in them you can always add other info in the tags

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        1. [6]
          Eivetsthecat
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          I'm not seeing an option to delete on posts that are just links to the content.

          I'm not seeing an option to delete on posts that are just links to the content.

          1. [5]
            Flashynuff
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            Do you see a button to tag? The delete button should be directly to the left of that, immediately beneath the link in your post at the top of the page. Try ctrl+f 'Delete'?

            Do you see a button to tag? The delete button should be directly to the left of that, immediately beneath the link in your post at the top of the page.

            Try ctrl+f 'Delete'?

            1. [4]
              Eivetsthecat
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              I figured it out, you have to go into the post for the delete option to pop up. I don't know why but I figured I'd be able to delete it a different way.

              I figured it out, you have to go into the post for the delete option to pop up. I don't know why but I figured I'd be able to delete it a different way.

              1 vote
              1. [3]
                Flashynuff
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                Ahhh, mystery solved! Nice! I'm sure we'll see better bulk post / comment management eventually.

                Ahhh, mystery solved! Nice! I'm sure we'll see better bulk post / comment management eventually.

                1. [2]
                  Eivetsthecat
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                  Do you think it'd make more sense to just post the youtube channel I'm finding things at? I kind of personally like the breakdown into individual topics myself even if they're sequential or from...

                  Do you think it'd make more sense to just post the youtube channel I'm finding things at? I kind of personally like the breakdown into individual topics myself even if they're sequential or from the same source, but I know some people might not appreciate that.

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                  1. Flashynuff
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                    I think breaking it up into topics makes the most sense, since that lets people talk about specific videos and not just an entire channel. I guess maybe you could just break up the posts -- one a...

                    I think breaking it up into topics makes the most sense, since that lets people talk about specific videos and not just an entire channel. I guess maybe you could just break up the posts -- one a day, perhaps?