11 votes

"Rate limit exceeded"?

Sometimes I'd like to post comments more frequently than a single comment anywhere on the site once every two hours.

But I can't, because I get the error "Rate limit exceeded".

Is it possible to remove or at least significantly increase the limit site-wide for established users?

The things a bear has to do..

If there is a more appropriate place for this, I would appreciate having it moved there, or a link to the more appropriate area. Thanks!

14 comments

  1. [2]
    Deimos
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    There are some conditions that can cause individual users to get a stricter rate-limit. Generally it's trying to detect when people are getting into extended bickering matches and get them to stop...

    There are some conditions that can cause individual users to get a stricter rate-limit. Generally it's trying to detect when people are getting into extended bickering matches and get them to stop replying to every new comment within minutes, because that pattern is almost always an unproductive argument and usually escalates.

    It's supposed to be temporary though, so it sounds like the part of it that lifts the rate-limit after a while might not be working properly. I'll take a look at it.

    13 votes
  2. [5]
    DrStone
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    This is where the rate limits are defined I think that means in a given rolling time window T, you can have up to a limit L actions that are normally given out / replenished at a rate of one per T...

    This is where the rate limits are defined

    I think that means in a given rolling time window T, you can have up to a limit L actions that are normally given out / replenished at a rate of one per T / L, with a burst allowed up to B ignoring that rate.

    For comments, it's limited to a 1 hour rolling window (T), a 10 comment limit (L), and a burst of 5 (B). So you can generally comment once every 6 minutes (60 min / 10), and optionally make five all at once. With the burst, it's possible to get yourself in a situation where at some point you'll have to wait longer than 6 minutes.

    For topics, it's limited much lower, to a 4 hour rolling windows, 10 comment limit, and a burst of 4.

    10 votes
    1. [4]
      Bear
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      Thank you, but absolutely none of what you wrote appears to address my issue. See the screenshot that I will edit in. https://i.imgur.com/DyxlvqM.png Although the error refers to "75 minutes", it...

      Thank you, but absolutely none of what you wrote appears to address my issue.

      See the screenshot that I will edit in. https://i.imgur.com/DyxlvqM.png

      Although the error refers to "75 minutes", it starts at 119 minutes (really/apparently 120 minutes) after my last comment. It's become more obvious as I have tried to participate more often.

      Granted, I am no programmer, but when I read the code you referenced, I saw nothing referring to a two hour rate limit on comments, and yet, I obviously have the issue, and it's obviously a Tildes error message.

      It may not be an issue for other people, but it is an issue that I am experiencing.

      1 vote
      1. Greg
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        That seems a rather... abrupt response to someone trying to help! It's extremely relevant to your issue: they've given you a clear view of what should be happening, so you can check whether what...

        That seems a rather... abrupt response to someone trying to help! It's extremely relevant to your issue: they've given you a clear view of what should be happening, so you can check whether what you're seeing is expected or not. That lets us identify that you seem to be hitting the limiters far more often than would be expected, and that the timeout is longer than the one defined for comments.

        In short: there's no need to "remove or at least significantly increase the limit site-wide for established users" because the behaviour you're seeing doesn't appear to be intentional. Now we know all that, we can start figuring out what's unusual about your use case and how to get it fixed.

        20 votes
      2. [2]
        DrStone
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        I found this other file that indicates there can be separate per-user limits. Maybe a different rate limit has been set on your account. @Deimos would be the best person to shed light on the...

        I found this other file that indicates there can be separate per-user limits. Maybe a different rate limit has been set on your account.

        @Deimos would be the best person to shed light on the situation.

        7 votes
        1. Bear
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          Interesting, even if I can't understand it all. Thanks for trying to help. Hopefully @Deimos can shed some link on it.

          Interesting, even if I can't understand it all. Thanks for trying to help.

          Hopefully @Deimos can shed some link on it.

          2 votes
  3. [5]
    drannex
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    I have been seeing this more and more, even if I haven't left a comment in several days or posted. It's not usually a deterrent as you can just try again rather easily, but it is an interesting issue.

    I have been seeing this more and more, even if I haven't left a comment in several days or posted. It's not usually a deterrent as you can just try again rather easily, but it is an interesting issue.

    4 votes
    1. [4]
      Bear
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      I can't speak to that, but for example, now that I have left this comment, I can't comment anywhere else on the site for two hours. Edit, seconds after this reply was made: I tried, and got "Rate...

      I can't speak to that, but for example, now that I have left this comment, I can't comment anywhere else on the site for two hours.

      Edit, seconds after this reply was made: I tried, and got "Rate limit exceeded. Please wait 119 minutes before retrying."

      (Edited to clarify that the error message was received after this reply was submitted)

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        drannex
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        Then we may be seeing different errors, I am unsure how often I see the 119 minutes remaining warning.

        Then we may be seeing different errors, I am unsure how often I see the 119 minutes remaining warning.

        2 votes
        1. Deimos
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          That does sound like a different error, do you know what the error message says? (It doesn't have to be the exact wording of it, even just vaguely what it's about)

          That does sound like a different error, do you know what the error message says? (It doesn't have to be the exact wording of it, even just vaguely what it's about)

          2 votes
      2. kwyjibo
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        That's strange. I had some back and forth on two different threads the other day and I must have posted 5-6 comments within an hour. I did not encounter this issue.

        That's strange. I had some back and forth on two different threads the other day and I must have posted 5-6 comments within an hour. I did not encounter this issue.

        2 votes
  4. [2]
    Seven
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    This has happened to me twice in the last couple weeks. I usually just keep the tab open and send the reply 3 hours later, but it's really inconvenient.

    This has happened to me twice in the last couple weeks. I usually just keep the tab open and send the reply 3 hours later, but it's really inconvenient.

    3 votes
    1. Bear
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      That's what I've been doing, and yes, it is inconvenient.

      This has happened to me twice in the last couple weeks. I usually just keep the tab open and send the reply 3 hours later, but it's really inconvenient.

      That's what I've been doing, and yes, it is inconvenient.

      4 votes