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Gorilla Tuning of Rexburg, Idaho, pleads guilty to criminal conspiracy to violate the Clean Air Act, will pay $1 million in criminal fines, while its owner faces up to two years in jail

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  1. [2]
    AugustusFerdinand
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    Good on the EPA. These shops sell tunes that marginally increase power, but specifically increase emissions by design so small minded "diesel bros" can "roll coal" as some magical right wing...

    Good on the EPA.

    These shops sell tunes that marginally increase power, but specifically increase emissions by design so small minded "diesel bros" can "roll coal" as some magical right wing middle finger to environmentalists, hybrids, and electric cars (there are entire channels dedicated to getting next to Priuses (Priuii?), Teslas, and bicyclists just to floor it and belch black smoke next to them). When challenged (online, because in person they are big talking cowards as usual) they'll defend the practice saying it's how you make the most power or that emissions equipment is unreliable.
    Which, of course, doesn't hold water as the most well known man in diesel tuning Gale Banks produces more power/performance, more reliably, all without belching a single black cloud of unburned fuel and has forgotten more about diesel tuning than any of these fuckwits collectively will ever have.

    18 votes
    1. wervenyt
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      Yeah, this kind of thing has no purpose but harm. I'm more sympathetic than many for the small number of people who do tune their engines for cost saving purposes, because while emissions need to...

      Yeah, this kind of thing has no purpose but harm. I'm more sympathetic than many for the small number of people who do tune their engines for cost saving purposes, because while emissions need to be vastly reduced globally, poor rural folks shouldn't bear much blame for trying to eke out an extra meal or something from their gas bill when the international economy is hell-bent on turning our planet into, well, hell.

      However, besides the fact I'm not even sure that those sorts of tunes exist/are worth it anymore, this provocative group-signal is both morally and literally disgusting. An entire side of a highway can lose visibility for up to a couple hundred yards when one of those coal-rolling douchebags comes through (and in my experience, 8/10 they drive like they're in the Le Mans with their King Ranch), who knows how many crashes that has led to? Probably not a ton, but given the "benefits", one is far too many. That's not even mentioning the possibility of triggering asthma attacks or simply the noxious smell.

      7 votes
  2. unkz
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    Between And It seems that for some classes of pollutants, this single shop could have been responsible for the equivalent emissions of millions to tens of millions of vehicles being put on the...

    Between

    According to the EPA, Gorilla Tuning sold tens of thousands of tuning devices

    And

    The EPA reports that in trucks with deleted emissions controls, rates of harmful particulates like NOx increase by 310 times, carbon monoxide by 120 times, and non-methane hydrocarbons increase by 1,400 times over fully compliant vehicles.

    It seems that for some classes of pollutants, this single shop could have been responsible for the equivalent emissions of millions to tens of millions of vehicles being put on the road?

    That’s pretty obscene. I hope there are good sales records for those tens of thousands of sold devices and that they are being followed up on as well.

    13 votes
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    bloup
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    It’s absolutely wild to me that so many people would spend so much time, effort, and money on a marginal performance benefit that makes the car impossible to resell and that poisons the air....

    [The EPA] estimates that around 15 percent of diesel trucks on U.S. roads have had their emissions control devices illegally deleted.

    It’s absolutely wild to me that so many people would spend so much time, effort, and money on a marginal performance benefit that makes the car impossible to resell and that poisons the air. Really shows where their priorities lie, and how much they value their own neighbors. Personal satisfaction above all else even when the satisfaction comes from hurting everyone around them (and even themselves, too), and not even an actual material benefit.

    10 votes
    1. norb
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      I mean, these aren't exactly long term thinkers we're dealing with here....

      I mean, these aren't exactly long term thinkers we're dealing with here....

      7 votes
    2. boxer_dogs_dance
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      See also rolling coal, especially at bicyclists.

      See also rolling coal, especially at bicyclists.

      3 votes
  4. umop_dn
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    I live in northeastern Washington, these goddamn rubes are everywhere. Their ignorance is actually a point of pride to them, if not a full on virtue. It's these asshats that spend their spare time...

    I live in northeastern Washington, these goddamn rubes are everywhere. Their ignorance is actually a point of pride to them, if not a full on virtue. It's these asshats that spend their spare time (which is apparently in abundance) blocking EV charge stations, and obnoxiously choke down their double decker cheese burger with extra bacon if they happen to be in earshot of anyone eating a fucking salad. Every single one of these trucks has an FJB, or "Let's go Brandon" decal on them. I don't know if MTFU skull (this means "Man The Fuck Up" for those unfamiliar) stickers are popular outside of the Pacific Northwest, but those are typically present as well.

    Just, for what? To what end? To irritate forward thinking people? Great, mission accomplished... But, they can never even consider that they're simply making the world a worse place. I don't get it man. Why make things worse intentionally? In all the vitriol and division they further separate people. Their actions cannot help the world in any way whatsoever. Their actions are always a net negative. Awesome. 😕

    Thank you for listening to my Tuesday morning gripe.

    8 votes
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    st3ph3n
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    Be warned, the comments section on that article is an absolute dumpster fire. I don't recommend it.

    Be warned, the comments section on that article is an absolute dumpster fire. I don't recommend it.

    2 votes
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      AugustusFerdinand
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      Comment sections usually are, Carscoops isn't a great site to begin with as it's just a reposter of youtube videos and press releases, so the lowest of effort sites with the lowest of effort...

      Comment sections usually are, Carscoops isn't a great site to begin with as it's just a reposter of youtube videos and press releases, so the lowest of effort sites with the lowest of effort commenters.

      4 votes
      1. [2]
        boxer_dogs_dance
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        Thanks for the feedback about the site. I picked up the interesting article as a one off from a different link aggregator. But do you have transportation and automotive periodicals you value,...

        Thanks for the feedback about the site. I picked up the interesting article as a one off from a different link aggregator. But do you have transportation and automotive periodicals you value, preferably without paywalls?

        1 vote
        1. AugustusFerdinand
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          I'd need a bit more detail about what kind of info you're looking for to give specific results, but here is a general gist: AutoBlog - Free, long-standing, ad/sponsored post supported, reviews,...

          I'd need a bit more detail about what kind of info you're looking for to give specific results, but here is a general gist:

          1. AutoBlog - Free, long-standing, ad/sponsored post supported, reviews, rumors, automotive news, auto-related news, and some minor industry news. Comments typically on the right-side-of-history on anything related to something "controversial" like this news about EPA fining gross emitters.
          2. Car and Driver - MotorTrend - AutoWeek - Mostly free online content, chance of running into a paywall occasionally, but these are the online arms of the subscription magazines that span decades. Mostly car reviews, some industry news. Comments can be a mixed bag as you have a combination of people that are normal and people that had the magazine subscription forever and finally learned how to use the internet thinking their opinions are valid, but they are also the safer sites that don't really post "controversial" news like this.
          3. Automotive News - Exclusively industry news (no reviews, aftermarket, etc.), has a lot of "Subscription Required" notices on articles, but I've never actually ran into a paywall even on those articles marked as such. There is no comment section.
          4. The Drive - Free, news, reviews, culture, aftermarket, and auto-related. Comment sections tend toward the right-side-of-history, but can be a mixed bag as it's a pretty even mix of content across the automotive niches (so you get all kinds of enthusiasts) and it has a military centric sister site that gives a bit more lean towards people that like that sort of thing.
          2 votes
  6. Sodliddesu
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    Looking at the damages to the environment, does $1M even recoup their sales? Looking at their website and Facebook, there's no prices for any of their services. I'm assuming they do more in lift...

    Looking at the damages to the environment, does $1M even recoup their sales? Looking at their website and Facebook, there's no prices for any of their services. I'm assuming they do more in lift installs and overpriced light kits but $1M for the amount of NOx is just bewildering.

    1 vote