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Any tips for Barcelona and Lisbon in June/July?
Hey Tildes,
My husband and I are planning a trip to Barcelona and Lisbon at end of June.
I'm looking for any tips and things to know about Spain/Portugal.
Any thing I should get in advance like museum tickets or tours. Looking for a night life scene that isn't so much of a tourist trap. Also, any ettiquete I should know about. This would my second time in Europe, so any advice would be appreciated.
Hello! My husband and I have been to both of these amazing cities (Barcelona in 2017 and Lisbon in 2022), and you're in for a real treat! We're mostly foodies, so that will probably be the center of my recommendations, and we also don't know much about the nightlife (sorry!), as we're old and grumpy. But I'll do my best to offer some insights. There is so much to tell, I'm struggling to organize it all in my head, so I think I might just list things as they pop up, and please feel free to ask any questions!
Barcelona
Lisbon
Etiquette
I can't really speak much to this, as I didn't notice any huge culture shocks in either place, aside from the regular "we're not in Kansas anymore" feeling. I'm an American from the West Coast, for reference. The people in both cities were extremely friendly and kind, and it was easy to ask for help when navigating the newness. That being said, as is always best practice, it goes a long way to learn simple, polite phrases in the native language. Practice these at home, so you feel less awkward using them. Folks really appreciate the effort! Also, both of these countries are heavily Catholic, so it's always a good idea to bring more modest clothing when visiting religious sites; I carried a pashmina that I doubled as a scarf and shoulder wrap for entering churches. The weather (especially in Lisbon) will probably be humid and hot, so it's important to remember to bring something to cover shoulders, even on sunny days!
My husband's advice is this - remember you're a tourist. He struggled with feeling anxious and out-of-place, and that hampered his time a little bit, until he remembered that it's going to be obvious you're a tourist before you even open your mouth. So lean into it! These cities are very tourist-friendly and used to it, so nobody will judge you about it. Just also beware that this makes you an easy mark for scams and pick-pocketing! So it's worth learning about ways to keep yourself safe from that, especially if you're staying out late at night. They're very safe cities, all-in-all, but you might still get robbed if you're obviously drunk or dumb.
I hope you have a great trip and enjoy yourselves!! Spain and Portugal are both wonderful countries, full of warm and friendly people who want to show you the best of their cultures. Take lots of pictures and keep a journal!
Great write up, I’m portuguese and I feel you did a good job 👍
Just want to add a few things:
most portuguese, especially younger generations, understand english, even outside of the cities and tourist attractions. Bring google translator just in case anyway, but you’ll do fine most of the time.
if you go to Porto, you owe it to yourself trying out a Francesinha. The Wikipedia photo doesn’t do it justice, so I recommend browsing through more images to truly appreciate its allure. While Lisbon offers its versions, Porto is the undisputed heartland of the Francesinha.
Just a heads up:
But again, these tensions are more with digital nomads, they’re not with tourists. Our country is reliant on tourism, so thank you for coming and stimulating our economy :P
Thanks for the writeup! This is amazing. My husband and I are debating whether to go Picasso or Dali museum. I'm leaning towards Dali since I have seen Picasco exhibition at the MOMA.
One of the big reason why my husband and I choose spain was to practice our Spanish. So hopefully I can get my spanish up to conversational level.
I'm asian, so I'm going to stick out like sore thumb either way. I'm gonna take the advice of leaning on being a tourist by heart. Once again thanks for the write up.
Don't use Spanish in Portugal. Portuguese get annoyed if they are expected to understand Spanish
Make sense, I would be annoyed if some one start speaking Dutch to me.
How long will you be in Lisbon? Will you stay in Lisbon only or travel to other areas nearby (like Cascais and Sintra)? Will you rent a vehicle?
I have a document I send to friends travelling over which I can paste here but am currently traveling so may take me a day or two.
Only for two night, so a very short stay. We're not going to drive for this trip. I am not too keen in driving in other countries unless I'm more familiar with their roads and drivers.
I would appreciate the document, but I don't want to cause any inconvenience.
OK get ready to get massively info-dumped! I'm posting as a new comment because I'm not sure it Tildes lets you know when comments are edited. Please excuse the formatting errors! Also don't hesitate to ask if you need more info on anything mentioned below.
2 to 3 days:
Fortunately Lisbon is quite small so a lot can easily be done in a couple of days if you stick to the centre. If the weather is nice and you have some extra time, I recommend also visiting Cascais and Sintra. Most of the areas around Lisbon are walkable, and you see a lot more on foot but it's easy to get lost (especially around the bairro alto area) so I recommend a map (or google maps on your phone). Lisbon has a lot of hills, some areas are steep-ish and the sidewalks can be hella slippery if it rains (or even if it doesn't). Wear comfortable shoes and avoid wearing heels/slippery footwear.
Electric trams:
Don't hesitate to take the electric trams up the hills then meander down the streets to explore. I suggest taking number 28 around, it will take you to a lot or near of the places I mention in this doc, and passes by some picturesque areas. Here's a site with a map and more info: https://tram28lisbon.info
And tram 12 is also interesting, covers a smaller area but a good bunch of the highlights: https://lisbonlisboaportugal.com/lisbon-transport/lisbon-tram-route-12.html
Also there's a funicular that takes you up to bairro (more on that later) if you want to avoid the climb: https://www.lisbonguru.com/ascensor-da-bica-funicular/
Places to eat:
I don’t have a lot of places to recommend because the best place to eat in Lisbon is my mom’s place :P One place I do recommend to get a taste of a variety of Portuguese food in one go is this place: https://maps.google.com/?cid=5682924137613750055&entry=gps
It's in the courtyard of the building so you need to look for the sign outside and go through a door to get in the building itself. They have a menu where you have small portions of almost all the different 'petiscos' (Portuguese version of tapas) they offer, incl dessert. The desserts are not exactly Portuguese but they were good from what I remember.
In the same building you may notice an elevator on the other side of the courtyard. This takes you up to a rooftop bar which has a sone nice cocktails and a nice view: https://maps.google.com/?cid=16490426474132133053&entry=gps
They also have a restaurant but I've not tried it.
Also here are a couple of pretty famous historic cafés/pastry shops:
A Brasileira: https://maps.app.goo.gl/nr8Twx4FiEtmV2Br5
Confeitaria Nacional: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Qr4WqsCgNRSDwzmJ9
Bairro Alto (in Chiado) – Steep small roads with loads of bars, very relaxed atmosphere where all the students go to drink at night. It's considered the 'hip' area for young people with lots of bars, restaurants, etc. Keep an eye on your belongings though, lots of pickpockets in the area. I suggest taking the tram up though, walking up can be tiring. Nearest metro is Baixa/Chiado.
Some notable spots:
• Bar with good food and live music: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Xumc6YK4y9SGxGkLA
• Restaurant with fado musicians: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZR81pSy8kPhXt7gi8
• Another place for food and fado but smaller: https://maps.app.goo.gl/9hy5m1fhUMss7zb96
Castelo de São Jorge – Lisbon’s ‘main’ castle. Note you might have to pay to get in but there’s an amazing view of the centre of Lisbon. Walking up there from the Praça is very steep but it’s a nice walk if the weather is good and you have time. On the way up you can see the Sé Cathedral: https://maps.app.goo.gl/yTThUrPpaxKTc3Ce9
If you do visit the castle, see if you can get a table at this place. It's a quirky little restaurant with a great view at some tables (you'll probably need to reserve) where they have circus performances some days (it's part of a circus school).
Other areas with notable views (free):
Miradouro de Santa Luzia: https://maps.app.goo.gl/QBGLEhwL4xitdkvRA
Miradouro Santa Catarina (good spot to watch sunset): https://maps.app.goo.gl/HrgTxh9p1BKmv4YAA
Rossio – Nearby you’ll find the Elevador de Santa Justa which was engineered by Gustave Eiffel which can take you up to Chiado (Bairro Alto). Nearest metro is Rossio. If you’re walking from the Rossio metro station, take the ‘Praça Dom Pedro IV’ road (on the square) and the elevator will be on your right. Not too far from the area you also have the Convento do Carmo, a gothic church whose roof was destroyed by the 18th century earthquake.
Praça do Comércio – Huge square, nice architecture and near the water. You can consider this the central area, if you have the water behind you and the statue and the arch in front of you, going inwards and up to the right will take you to the Castelo de São Jorge, going inwards up to the left will take you to Chiado.
Alfama – Lisbon's oldest area. This area is also known as the home of Fado music. It’s worth checking out if they can find a good place to eat/drink at and listen to the music. Technically this is where you find the St Jorge castle, but it stretches all the way from the water up to the castle.
Belém - If you have time it’s worth making a stop at Belém. You have some interesting monuments like the Torre de Belém, Jeronimos monastery where some royals are buried, a big garden and the Belém cultural centre that houses a small modern art museum. Also, for something ‘off the beaten track’ check out the National Coach Museum (Museu Nacional dos Coches). The real gem of Belém however are the Pasteis de Belém. You might see pastel de nata everywhere in Lisbon, but these are THE BEST (also you can't call them pastel de nata or they'll scowl at you). Don't be intimidated by the queue outside, if you're taking a box or two to go it's quick. There's also plenty of seating inside so don't hesitate to stop by for a break. For the best experience, sprinkle a bit of powdered sugar and cinnamon on top. This is what heaven tastes like.
And as promised, tips for people staying more than a few days. Some of of these you'll need a car to get to, especially the beaches.
Up to a week or more
Lisbon Oceanarium – If the weather is miserable, the Oceanarium is worth the detour. It’s beautiful and easy to do within one or two hours. You can take the metro there - it’s a bit out of the way but there are plenty of places to have drinks/dinner nearby and you can take a short trip by cable-car to get there. It’s also a nice walk along the river at sundown. If you have kids I can't recommend the Pavilhão do Conhecimento (science museum) enough.
Cascais: A former fishing town, about 45mins from Cais de Sodré in Lisbon to Cascais station on the train. Main feature here is the coast and the town which is quite pleasant. If you get to go, there is a big walkway right next to the water known as the Paredão which stretches to São João do Estoril. On a nice sunny day this can make for an excellent walk and there are plenty of cafés and restaurants along the way.
The marina not far from Cascais centre has lots of restaurants and bars. [If you continue further than the marina you have boca do inferno (hell's mouth). It's a natural arch/hole in the cliff next to the sea. Honestly you can skip it I don't know why people find it impressive but right next to it there are a bunch of shacks, some selling traditional portuguese stuff like terra cotta dishware and ceramic tiles.
Here are some places to eat around Cascais (most have been recommended to me by people whose taste I trust):
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Q8wPCNSt5gNizoL17 (great place for sardines!!)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/G2xRHiCB3S3tEmaH6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VDKbwZuYZ67xMeWe8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HrMwFYLPTEK82H2Y6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/j92JyeC5ktWwonTZ9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/fEZ3j7TZxKgovEQo6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8VPy65RUEhVnA87T6
Sintra: Not easy to get to without personal transport but this is one of the most beautiful parts of greater Lisbon. Visiting can be dependent on the weather, if it’s cold in Lisbon I’d avoid Sintra, because it tends to be colder and rainier up there due to the altitude. It’s definitely worth the detour, places to see include the beautiful Palacio de Monserrate which was renovated practically from the ground up and the Palacio da Pena (the grounds around the palaces are also quite beautiful). The local reputed pastries are the Travesseiro and the Queijada which you can get from the Piriquita. Also, if you like outdoorsy stuff there are places to go hiking around Sintra which are nice and some places to picnic that are off the beaten track.
Beaches in and around Greater Lisbon/Cascais/Sintra:
There are plenty of beaches in the area that are more or less easy to get to. Before I get to the beaches, I must mention Bolas de Berlim. Keep a bit of cash on you and look out for people shouting 'bola de berlim' (usually they're on bigger beaches). They're vendors walking up and down some of the beaches selling giant sugar covered beignets. They now have some with nutella inside. It's terrible for your health but it hits the spot when you're on the beach
One of the most popular beaches that is fairly easy to get to (by car or train if you don’t mind walking a bit) is the Praia de Carcavelos. It can get veeeeery crowded in summer and people have been known to be robbed on those beaches.
Also popular is the much wilder Guincho beach, with its big sand dunes, it’s a very popular spot for surfing, windsurfing, kitesurfing, etc. You will need a car to get there though.
For beautiful less frequented beaches around the greater Lisbon area, I have a few suggestions (you’ll need a car for all of these):
Praia d’Adraga - Voted one of Portugal’s most beautiful beaches, it’s a fairly wild beach in Sintra, a bit of a drive to get there from Cascais though. If the tide is low and you’re facing the ocean, walking to the left will take you to a ‘hidden’ beach (Praia do Cavalo). Just be careful not to get stuck there when the tide comes up!
Notable mention go to the beaches around Ericeira
Praia da Ursa – Right next to Cabo da Roca (closest point in Mainland Europe to the US). This is a ‘hidden’ nudsist beach and one of my favourites. If you’re looking for privacy that is still accessible, this is a good option but it can be somewhat dangerous to get down so I don’t recommend it for people who have mobility issues. You need to trek down the ‘cliff face’ to get there and it’s not easy to tell where it is even if there are signs showing some sort of beach exists in the area. If you want to know how to get there you can ask me and I’ll give you directions.
Praia da Grota –
My favourite beach to hike to and frankly somewhat dangerous to get to but to me it’s worth it. Very wild, not a soul in sight, beautiful multi-coloured stones and a pool of sea urchins. You have to be careful going here alone because if you get hurt, chances are you won’t have anybody coming anytime soon to help. I’m not certain the rocks on the cliff face to the right are all that stable either. Again if you want directions to here, let me know.
A couple of weeks
For something completely different - dolphins!
If you -really- like dolphins you can't miss this tour: https://maps.app.goo.gl/jjwCaCWBSb1vX32E8
It's not cheap and it takes a few hours but you get right up close to the dolphins. One of the coolest things I've done in Lisbon. It's also a tour of the monuments from the sea and you get some really cool shots of things like the Torre de Belém with no tourists in the picture. You get to see lots of interesting seabirds on the way out as well.
Setubal - If you have a car and are willing to travel a little outside Lisbon, the beaches in Setubal are very beautiful. It’s on the other side of the 25 d’Abril bridge, in a natural park. Some are not easy to get to but it’s worth the trek. The natural park is also a good if you like to hike, kayak, rock climb or do the coastal version of canyoning. Let me know if you want contacts to do those things.
Obidos
About 1h drive from Lisbon, or 1.5h-2h train ride, Obidos is a very charming picturesque medieval town within the walls of a moorish castle. If you have time it is worth a day trip from Lisbon, especially if you’re on your way to Porto by car. The lagoon is also a great spot for kitesurfing, windsurfing, sailining, and bird watching.
Oh wow, thanks for the writeup.
This is really great! Thanks for sharing.
Do you have a similar list for Porto?
No problem! I'm afraid I don't know Porto as well as Lisbon though.
Adding to the food reccos in BCN:
Bo de B — best sandwiches in Spain. Grab one and eat it on the lawn by the yacht marina
Sense Tapa — awesome tapas
La Ovela Negra - local bar popular with younger Spaniards in the Gothic quarter.
Spain is very safe. The biggest issue in Barcelona are the pick pockets. Keep your wallet/phone in front pockets and don't trust a zipper to keep your things safe. Especially on the metro. If someone is being loud they may be the distraction while their friends make a grab.
But no one is going to mug you. I think that other commenter is a bit of an outlier.
Thanks for the food recommendation. I will probably check some of these places out.
Yeah, I grew up around NYC, so I have some city sense. I am planning to get a retractable leash for our wallets or wear my trusty hidden belt wallet that I bought for Lima.
Have a great time! I was also reminded of Brugarol Barcelona. Definitely worth checking out if you're looking for a nice — but not overly pricey — meal.
Since a lot of people are recommending food: I'll add that I grew up eating Portuguese food and 99 times out of 100 it involved bacalhau (cod fish). Do yourself a favor and eat some cod while you're there. They have other staples and famous foods, like sardines, caldo verde, and pasteis de nata, but nothing compares to bolinhos de bacalhau (fried cod fritters). We eat them on special occasions in my house (mostly xmas), and I've recommended it to people going to Portugal before (or even just Portuguese restaurants abroad) who ended up loving them. Just drizzle some olive oil on them. Then get a plate of cod, potatoes, and rice with some olive oil again.
Regarding the Lisbon visit: Make sure to plan ahead for your inevitable trip(s) to Sintra.
Ooh keeping an eye on this thread, I'm going to Lisbon in July myself!
The wife and I spent two weeks in Barcelona. Here are some thoughts:
Thanks for the writeup. We're looking into architectural tours around the city. I'm a big urban planning need, so this is up my alley.
I had a really nice night with my partner here: http://hemingwaybcn.com/ really inventive cocktails in a cozy little space.
Also make sure to check out some Gaudi.
Omg their glassware is amazing!!! Im definitely penciling this down.
Yep delightful cocktails, enjoy the trip!
Lots of great suggestions here. wrt Barcelona, I’d also suggest a day trip to Girona and another out to Montserrat!
My parents visited Spain and Barcelona. My mom ended up getting mugged and her passport stolen. If there's any takeaway, it's to not show off and to keep a low profile.
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm planning to dress like I'm going to NYC, so hopefully I don't stick out too much.