It has a lot of similarities to the movie of course in that there are factions on a train in the snow, but it deviates pretty quickly. I wouldn’t say the movie really spoils or even prepares you...
It has a lot of similarities to the movie of course in that there are factions on a train in the snow, but it deviates pretty quickly. I wouldn’t say the movie really spoils or even prepares you for most of the series. Overall, I like the series quite a lot more than the movie.
I'd like to add that I also liked the show but the tone is all over the place. It goes from being hard sci fi and trying to tell a story of people fighting for the last scraps of humanity in a...
I'd like to add that I also liked the show but the tone is all over the place. It goes from being hard sci fi and trying to tell a story of people fighting for the last scraps of humanity in a hellscape to lol we gave a guy super powers with jelly we found down the seat cracks.
Personally I like both aspects to the show and find them both enjoyable to watch, but I could easily see it really annoying someone because it's jarring even within an episode.
In both versions, the train was created by a psychopathic capitalist, and the ice age was caused by trying to solve global warming with an invention that made the world colder rather than stopping...
In both versions, the train was created by a psychopathic capitalist, and the ice age was caused by trying to solve global warming with an invention that made the world colder rather than stopping pollution directly. Classes are divided into how expensive of a train ticket they or their parents bought, with the stowaways being the lowest class. But the movie shows a fight from the back of the train to the front, where each class is almost a video game level. The show actually takes 3 seasons to live in that world, so it shows a lot more societal commentary. There's good guys, bad guys, and morally gray characters in each class, including the stowaways and the people running the train. Sometimes even the non-capitalists who are into democracy can make morally questionable decisions "for the greater good".
The premise of the show is a very good commentary on social classes. When I'm watching it, I sometimes get very annoyed thinking about a world where you get to have a life of relative luxury just...
The premise of the show is a very good commentary on social classes.
When I'm watching it, I sometimes get very annoyed thinking about a world where you get to have a life of relative luxury just because you had the luck or money years ago to buy a certain ticket. And how almost everyone's life would improve dramatically if the few at the top would agree to have just a little less. Then of course I see that our world is exactly the same on a larger scale.
These are important setting and plot elements, but they're not quite what I'm after. But in the film, the train itself was an unsubtle metaphor for capitalism itself as well, and the ending in...
These are important setting and plot elements, but they're not quite what I'm after. But in the film, the train itself was an unsubtle metaphor for capitalism itself as well, and the ending in particular drives home this symbolism in a very effective way. Snowpiercer is one of my favorite films, and one of the reasons I like it is how on-the-nose Bong Joon-ho was with the themes and symbolism in this respect, so I'm wondering if that's something that carries over to the TV show at all.
If you liked the symbolism in the movie, I think you'll enjoy the show. The struggles the society on the train and the train itself run into very effectively work as a microcosm for the real...
If you liked the symbolism in the movie, I think you'll enjoy the show. The struggles the society on the train and the train itself run into very effectively work as a microcosm for the real world. As hobbes said, the show constantly makes you realize these things happening in this show really happen, just with a larger number of people involved. It's just that, unlike the film, capitalism isn't the only thing being criticized, they're able to criticize other concepts like the judicial system, socialism, democracy, etc. because they have a lot more time to use the setting.
Edit: so, in the end of the movie,
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they find out the weather has gotten warm enough for life to survive outside the train.
In the TV show, they find out similar information, but *it's not the end of a movie,* and there are a lot of caveats to that information. Also,
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the train hasn't crashed, so there's thousands of lives at stake.
Researching it further, or acting on the research, is very dangerous and a big political question in-universe.
This is where I think the show goes beyond the movie; it has a lot more time to explore the metaphors.
That’s kind of how I felt about the movie, so if the show is even more like that, damn. I thought it was just cultural differences with a Korean-produced movie with the Chris Evans version.
That’s kind of how I felt about the movie, so if the show is even more like that, damn. I thought it was just cultural differences with a Korean-produced movie with the Chris Evans version.
Finally! This whole saga has been hard to believe, just sitting on it for 2 years.
How is your opinion on the show, and is it close to the movie?
It has a lot of similarities to the movie of course in that there are factions on a train in the snow, but it deviates pretty quickly. I wouldn’t say the movie really spoils or even prepares you for most of the series. Overall, I like the series quite a lot more than the movie.
I'd like to add that I also liked the show but the tone is all over the place. It goes from being hard sci fi and trying to tell a story of people fighting for the last scraps of humanity in a hellscape to lol we gave a guy super powers with jelly we found down the seat cracks.
Personally I like both aspects to the show and find them both enjoyable to watch, but I could easily see it really annoying someone because it's jarring even within an episode.
Does the show deal with the same anticapitalist themes as the film? Or is it mostly just sharing the setting?
In both versions, the train was created by a psychopathic capitalist, and the ice age was caused by trying to solve global warming with an invention that made the world colder rather than stopping pollution directly. Classes are divided into how expensive of a train ticket they or their parents bought, with the stowaways being the lowest class. But the movie shows a fight from the back of the train to the front, where each class is almost a video game level. The show actually takes 3 seasons to live in that world, so it shows a lot more societal commentary. There's good guys, bad guys, and morally gray characters in each class, including the stowaways and the people running the train. Sometimes even the non-capitalists who are into democracy can make morally questionable decisions "for the greater good".
The premise of the show is a very good commentary on social classes.
When I'm watching it, I sometimes get very annoyed thinking about a world where you get to have a life of relative luxury just because you had the luck or money years ago to buy a certain ticket. And how almost everyone's life would improve dramatically if the few at the top would agree to have just a little less. Then of course I see that our world is exactly the same on a larger scale.
These are important setting and plot elements, but they're not quite what I'm after. But in the film, the train itself was an unsubtle metaphor for capitalism itself as well, and the ending in particular drives home this symbolism in a very effective way. Snowpiercer is one of my favorite films, and one of the reasons I like it is how on-the-nose Bong Joon-ho was with the themes and symbolism in this respect, so I'm wondering if that's something that carries over to the TV show at all.
If you liked the symbolism in the movie, I think you'll enjoy the show. The struggles the society on the train and the train itself run into very effectively work as a microcosm for the real world. As hobbes said, the show constantly makes you realize these things happening in this show really happen, just with a larger number of people involved. It's just that, unlike the film, capitalism isn't the only thing being criticized, they're able to criticize other concepts like the judicial system, socialism, democracy, etc. because they have a lot more time to use the setting.
Edit: so, in the end of the movie,
Movie spoilers
they find out the weather has gotten warm enough for life to survive outside the train.Movie and TV spoilers
the train hasn't crashed, so there's thousands of lives at stake.This is where I think the show goes beyond the movie; it has a lot more time to explore the metaphors.
That’s kind of how I felt about the movie, so if the show is even more like that, damn. I thought it was just cultural differences with a Korean-produced movie with the Chris Evans version.