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Doctor Who S12E03 'Orphan 55'

What did you think of this week's episode of 'Doctor Who'?

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  1. mrnd
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    I think this is fairly easy to accept, as we have seen her wiping and transmitting memories before. But besides that. Yeah, I'm having similar feelings. Chibnall's style seems to be portraying...

    I forgot to ask this last week: when did the Doctor become a touch-telepath? Suddenly, she has the power to read minds and even influence people. This power hasn't surfaced before.

    I think this is fairly easy to accept, as we have seen her wiping and transmitting memories before.

    But besides that. Yeah, I'm having similar feelings.

    Chibnall's style seems to be portraying very lukewarm takes as very radical (racism bad, climate change bad [but amazon good]). And he doesn't really say anything about them beyond that. I'm getting fairly annoyed by that.

    Doctor Who should be political, but this is not good way to do that.

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    Algernon_Asimov
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    I forgot to ask this last week: when did the Doctor become a touch-telepath? Suddenly, she has the power to read minds and even influence people. This power hasn't surfaced before. I like this...

    I forgot to ask this last week: when did the Doctor become a touch-telepath? Suddenly, she has the power to read minds and even influence people. This power hasn't surfaced before.

    I like this good old-fashioned monster-of-the-week episode.

    I got a little confused when we found out that Orphan 55 is actually Earth. I kept thinking that we've seen Earth's future, and it didn't include becoming an uninhabitable wasteland. 200,000 years from now, it's still inhabited and being manipulated by the Jagrafass through the news. If, as the Doctor deduces, global warming leads to a nuclear war, followed by a nuclear winter and then Humans mutating into the Dregs, that would be happening during the year 200,000AD. 200,000 years is not long enough for a nuclear winter long enough for Humans to mutate into Dregs, and then for Kane's planned terraformation to restore Earth - and for Humans to migrate back to Earth and re-settle it.

    But then at the end of the episode, the Doctor says that's only one possible future, only one timeline. Doctor Who has always implied that there's only one timeline in our universe, from start to finish. This is the first time (I think) that we've heard of multiple timelines in our universe.

    Either way, this show seems to be inconsistent with the rest of Doctor Who.

    And then the Doctor got preachy at the end. <sigh> It was a bit too blatant. I think at one point she even spoke directly into the camera. I didn't like it.

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      moocow1452
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      At least since "The Girl in the Fireplace," as I recall that being a thing. And I guess the future is in flux, because there wasn't any fixed points in time around the apocalypse, so that can be...

      I forgot to ask this last week: when did the Doctor become a touch-telepath? Suddenly, she has the power to read minds and even influence people. This power hasn't surfaced before.

      At least since "The Girl in the Fireplace," as I recall that being a thing.

      And I guess the future is in flux, because there wasn't any fixed points in time around the apocalypse, so that can be changed, but not things that already happened from the viewers perspective, cause that would open a huge can of worms.

      Anyway, it felt like making Orphan 55 actually be Earth as opposed to Earthlike didn't really add a whole lot, and even if it did stick the landing, it didn't feel like it was adding that much to the show. The show made it's point about resorts are bad, especially on stolen land, and could have ran with that instead of tacking on "oh yeah, climate change, don't do drugs" at the end.

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      1. Algernon_Asimov
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        Okay. I don't remember that (but I'm not always good with details). However, she's using the power more often now, which is new. Agreed. It felt like that was done just so the Doctor could make...

        At least since "The Girl in the Fireplace," as I recall that being a thing.

        Okay. I don't remember that (but I'm not always good with details).

        However, she's using the power more often now, which is new.

        Anyway, it felt like making Orphan 55 actually be Earth as opposed to Earthlike didn't really add a whole lot

        Agreed. It felt like that was done just so the Doctor could make her big speech at the end.

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