Fantastitech's recent activity
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Comment on Favorite linux distro? in ~tech
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Comment on Shills in ~tildes
Fantastitech Link ParentFound the Hobby Lobby account. Checkmate, someone.Found the Hobby Lobby account. Checkmate, someone.
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentI don't want you to think I'm dodging tough questions but I'm drinking and smoking ribs and I don't think I can give this the attention it deserves from my phone outside from my.phone. I'll post a...I don't want you to think I'm dodging tough questions but I'm drinking and smoking ribs and I don't think I can give this the attention it deserves from my phone outside from my.phone. I'll post a real reapinse to this in the morning when I can sit down and type with a clear head.
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Comment on Shills in ~tildes
Fantastitech Link ParentThis comment is obviously posted by a shill account for the craft store Michael's.This comment is obviously posted by a shill account for the craft store Michael's.
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Comment on Shills in ~tildes
Fantastitech LinkDo you have some proposal for how to differentiate between a "shill" and someone who just promotes something you don't want to see? "Shill" is a dismissive term that seems more often than not to...Do you have some proposal for how to differentiate between a "shill" and someone who just promotes something you don't want to see? "Shill" is a dismissive term that seems more often than not to be used for dismissing people posting dissenting opinions as not legitimate.
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentI only saw the Trump thread (A). I visited it early and did not return so I can't speak to what it looks like now. However, my comment was in the context of the reaction to it in the ban thread....I only saw the Trump thread (A). I visited it early and did not return so I can't speak to what it looks like now. However, my comment was in the context of the reaction to it in the ban thread.
The ban thread has a lot of very blatant otherism talk on the side of the banned user. There were an uncomfortable amount of comments talking about "repugnant" political views and how reactions to them should be handled. It's also concerning when people start framing a political opinion as a troll post just because of the side it's on. Whether it's true or not is irrelevant, it opens the door for dismissing any political opinion that goes against the grain of the majority as baiting. This is what plauges the popular subreddits and promotes the image of a one-sided political agenda as an institution.
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentI like that, though I think I would go so far as to say that a logical fallacy shouldn't even be mentioned in the context of an argument. You can explain the problem with an argument without...I like that, though I think I would go so far as to say that a logical fallacy shouldn't even be mentioned in the context of an argument. You can explain the problem with an argument without reducing it to a logical fallacy. For example if someone makes a strawman argument it's easy to explain that you never made the argument in question without even using the word strawman.
I believe logical fallacies should be used for introspection in one's own arguments. Not used as a tool for winning a debate.
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentThe only thing I disagree with here is the inclusion of logical fallacies. That's been a huge problem on Reddit ever since it became a well know concept. An argument being a logical fallacy...The only thing I disagree with here is the inclusion of logical fallacies. That's been a huge problem on Reddit ever since it became a well know concept. An argument being a logical fallacy doesn't make it incorrect. It's created a culture of people who think just pointing out a logical fallacy is an argument, which it is not. Every time a list of logical fallacies hits the front page of Reddit there's a few weeks of people just shouting them out as a response to every comment they disagree with. It's important to emphasize that you must respond to the actual content of the fallacy and why it is flawed as an argument.
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentYou mean like a mod message thread behind a specific comment or thread?You mean like a mod message thread behind a specific comment or thread?
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentI like that idea. Though it would be difficult to police good use of tags. A tag like that would basically be a caegorized upvote and we all know how poor votes are at promoting quality content...I like that idea. Though it would be difficult to police good use of tags. A tag like that would basically be a caegorized upvote and we all know how poor votes are at promoting quality content over content the majority just agrees with no matter how awful it is.
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentThe problem is moderation has, with good reason, become a four letter word. What use is having a balanced mix of opinions on the mod team if all that does is create fighting within the ranks of...The problem is moderation has, with good reason, become a four letter word. What use is having a balanced mix of opinions on the mod team if all that does is create fighting within the ranks of the people who are assigned to moderate.
A good example is r/science. They have thousands of moderators from all walks. I've seen threads where mods were removing comments that broke no rules and other mods we're restoring them just as fast as they were pointed out. Meanwhile the top mods like Nate are outright lying when insisting that no good-faith comments are being removed while proof of the contrary is being posted.
I understand the concept of good moderation in heavily curated groups like neutralpolitics, but can the political discourse on an entire site be run the same way? Is that sustainable or even desirable?
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentI would put debate an another third category. I admit this is a very hard line to draw. What constitutes an unnecessary opinion and what constitutes factual commentary? Is there even any...I would put debate an another third category.
I admit this is a very hard line to draw. What constitutes an unnecessary opinion and what constitutes factual commentary? Is there even any non-opinionated commentary to make on a political article? I don't know. All I know is it isn't healthy to discuss politics on social media the way that we do and if there's a way to stop that without completely shutting down discussion, I'd like to see it done. I wish I had a good solution but it's a really tough place to draw an objective line.
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentI think my off-the-cuff solution would be to heavily segregate and isolate opinion from news. Want to talk about the factual content of a bill? Make that comment in the news thread. Want to...I think my off-the-cuff solution would be to heavily segregate and isolate opinion from news. Want to talk about the factual content of a bill? Make that comment in the news thread. Want to discuss your feelings on a law? Take that over to the opinion playground where the people who care what you think are hanging out.
This isn't very well thought out so I don't know how I'd choose to implement it yet. All I know is watching two sides be assholes to one another because they disagree is bad for the collective mental health of a community and I don't want it in front of my eyes. I don't even want to have to steer clear of it. I just want it not in my proximity or in my radar at all.
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentI'm not saying civil pololitical discussion can't exist. I'm saying otherism and tribalism prevent it from being possible and that we've already seen examples of that here. It leads to...I'm not saying civil pololitical discussion can't exist. I'm saying otherism and tribalism prevent it from being possible and that we've already seen examples of that here. It leads to dehumanization of anyone you disagree with.
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Comment on JustDeleteMe - A directory of direct links to delete your account from web services in ~comp
Fantastitech Link ParentIt's more like a reference resource. Instead of trying to think of every service you're signed up for and digging up their method for account deletion, it let's you go down a list that will jog...It's more like a reference resource. Instead of trying to think of every service you're signed up for and digging up their method for account deletion, it let's you go down a list that will jog your memory then tell you exactly how to navigate their system with a direct link to the page.
Much more useful are lists of actual data tracking services and how to get yourself removed from them as they're used for doxing. Maybe I'll make a post about that later. I know quite a bit about it and I occasionally do white hat doxing to show people exactly how easy they are to track down .
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Comment on Two bugs: "Keep Me Logged In" doesn't work, and Read Replies still show as "New" in ~tildes
Fantastitech Link ParentFWIW, I had the same issue when I first signed up. I was trying to help troubleshoot it when it just went away on its own. I had to log in about a dozen times then it just started keeping me...FWIW, I had the same issue when I first signed up. I was trying to help troubleshoot it when it just went away on its own. I had to log in about a dozen times then it just started keeping me logged in for no apparent reason.
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - on civility, political content, and over-extrapolating in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech LinkI don't like the idea of banning any sort of political talk, but on the other hand I really don't want to see political opinions. Looking in the big politics thread and the ban thread, it's......should we consider something like just banning "overly political" threads (at least for now) to prevent the site's culture from getting too adversarial initially? Again, is there anything else specific you think we can do or emulate to help the situation?
I don't like the idea of banning any sort of political talk, but on the other hand I really don't want to see political opinions. Looking in the big politics thread and the ban thread, it's apparent Tilde users are just as wrapped up in otherism as your average redditor. Otherism and tribalism are antiquated concepts that have no place in civil discourse. It infects it like a cancer, eliminating the possibility of coming to any sort of amicable resolution to a discussion. You see the same thing on both sides of the political divide.
So while I like to lean on the side of free and open speech, I also think this would be a better place without any opinionated politics.
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Comment on Ubuntu 18.04 in ~comp
Fantastitech Link Parent18.04 is LTS. Point release would be 18.04.X. It denotes the first patch for bug fixes. Waiting for the first point release for an LTS version is a common practice to make sure all the quirks are...18.04 is LTS. Point release would be 18.04.X. It denotes the first patch for bug fixes. Waiting for the first point release for an LTS version is a common practice to make sure all the quirks are ironed out before deploying.
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Comment on Ubuntu 18.04 in ~comp
Fantastitech LinkI always wait for the LTS point release. I'm on KDE Neon which is 16.04. I haven't upgraded any servers yet.I always wait for the LTS point release. I'm on KDE Neon which is 16.04. I haven't upgraded any servers yet.
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Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - our first ban in ~tildes.official
Fantastitech Link ParentI can't find anything to suggest this would be illegal under Canadian law. In fact I can find specific provisions in the relevant Canadian federal law that explicitly state it's legal if said hate...I can't find anything to suggest this would be illegal under Canadian law. In fact I can find specific provisions in the relevant Canadian federal law that explicitly state it's legal if said hate speech were in a context of pointing out hate speech. In this case the only guilty party would be the submitter and hosting it publicly after being removed would be a clear example of pointing out hate speech, not commiting the act.
I wanted to like NixOS but it was ruined for me when I first tried it, MySQL and MariaDB was broken, and it couldn't be installed for months. It's just not a distro I can take seriously after that fiasco.