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Comment on Starcraft 2 caster and ex-pro, Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson, has passed away at age 33 in ~games
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Comment on Are there any cyclists here? in ~hobbies
Moonikun LinkI bike to work during the spring, summer and fall. 7km trip, I decided doing that after I figured it was almost as quick for me to bike to work as it was to take transit. It's mostly pathways but...I bike to work during the spring, summer and fall. 7km trip, I decided doing that after I figured it was almost as quick for me to bike to work as it was to take transit. It's mostly pathways but you have to ride on the road a bit.
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Comment on Sam Harris drops Patreon, rips 'political bias' of 'Trust and Safety' team's bans in ~tech
Moonikun (edited )Link ParentI find that definition much too broad and far reaching to be of practical use in governing the interactions of the real world. By loosely applying that definition to the Lion King could arguable...I find that definition much too broad and far reaching to be of practical use in governing the interactions of the real world. By loosely applying that definition to the Lion King could arguable be considered hate speech.
Which part constituted hate speech to you? His choice of language, his assumption that the Alt Right individuals were white or that they were racist or that their behavior towards him was in his eyes similar to the behavior the racial stereotype he assumed they associated to black people?
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Comment on Sam Harris drops Patreon, rips 'political bias' of 'Trust and Safety' team's bans in ~tech
Moonikun Link ParentI feel like there is a certain threshold that had to be reached to consider something general hate speech. Merely using language that is reprehensible does not in my opinion reach that threshold....I feel like there is a certain threshold that had to be reached to consider something general hate speech. Merely using language that is reprehensible does not in my opinion reach that threshold. But how do you consider this hate speech?
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Comment on Sam Harris drops Patreon, rips 'political bias' of 'Trust and Safety' team's bans in ~tech
Moonikun Link ParentI'm not going to defend the use of the language because I don't agree with their usage in polite or every day conversation. Name calling using them does not constitute hate speech for me however.I'm not going to defend the use of the language because I don't agree with their usage in polite or every day conversation. Name calling using them does not constitute hate speech for me however.
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Comment on Sam Harris drops Patreon, rips 'political bias' of 'Trust and Safety' team's bans in ~tech
Moonikun Link ParentJack separated the policy in to mutliple sections when he was talking about it. For the purposes we are discussing section one which governs activities on Patreon and section two which gives...Jack separated the policy in to mutliple sections when he was talking about it. For the purposes we are discussing section one which governs activities on Patreon and section two which gives grounds for removal regardless of whether they are associated to Patreon or not. From my reading you are quoting from the first section that governs activities on Patreon.
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Comment on Sam Harris drops Patreon, rips 'political bias' of 'Trust and Safety' team's bans in ~tech
Moonikun Link ParentI don't feel this qualifies as hate speech and the quote still refers to activity on Patreon. I'm not okay with services governing behavior and refusing service due to what they view as none...I don't feel this qualifies as hate speech and the quote still refers to activity on Patreon. I'm not okay with services governing behavior and refusing service due to what they view as none acceptable general behavior. Just like I wouldn't agree with a store refusing service of a person because historical behavior not occurring on their property.
Sorry for the ugly Editting and double reply. It just takes me some time to do these things and you had already replied to my original prior to this edit
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Comment on Sam Harris drops Patreon, rips 'political bias' of 'Trust and Safety' team's bans in ~tech
Moonikun (edited )Link ParentThe point where he talks about content policy is 9:15. The point where he says they build a system of warnings to warn creators before just out right cutting them off from the site is at 35:00.The point where he talks about content policy is 9:15.
The point where he says they build a system of warnings to warn creators before just out right cutting them off from the site is at 35:00. -
Comment on Sam Harris drops Patreon, rips 'political bias' of 'Trust and Safety' team's bans in ~tech
Moonikun (edited )Link Parenthttps://youtu.be/ofpbDgCj9rw In this interview with the CEO of the company, the CEO explicitly says they do not use the activities on other platforms when determining violation of terms. He even...https://youtu.be/ofpbDgCj9rw
In this interview with the CEO of the company, the CEO explicitly says they do not use the activities on other platforms when determining violation of terms. He even gives an example of content on Twitter content would not be subject to these terms.I do appreciate the information you've given me though. I am still not familiar with the whole situation but am interested as I do use the site in funding a person that streams on twitch. As stated I don't much about Sargon other than this incident but I was more interested in Patreon's reaction to the situation and whether I agree with it or not.
So in your view was it the fact that it was a podcast/ collaboration in which these things were said that led to the ban or who he have been banned if a private recorded conversation in which he used the same language was made public. -
Comment on Sam Harris drops Patreon, rips 'political bias' of 'Trust and Safety' team's bans in ~tech
Moonikun Link ParentI couldn't find a better source talking about the topic of de-platorming from Patreon so this what the best I could find, but the reason I posted this is because I found it very interesting. The...I couldn't find a better source talking about the topic of de-platorming from Patreon so this what the best I could find, but the reason I posted this is because I found it very interesting. The offense that Sargon that led to the banning of Sargon didn't have anything to do with Patreon. None of the content was linked to Patreon in any way that has presented to me other than Sargon uses Patreon and he said those words. My problem is that I see Patreon not as a social media platform or a content hosting/ sharing site but more as a financial transaction middle man yet they want to try and govern things that do not occur on their site. The actions of Sargon did not violate any of the Terms of Service as they were stated yet Patreon felt it justifiable to take heavy handed action to complete remove their services from him. This of course is only his side of the story but I can find no other information to counter that claim. I find this disconcerting, which is why I posted the article. I do feel free speech is something worth defending but the issue isn't completely about free speech. Do companies have the right to cut of services based on manifest observable behavior that does not even occur on their platform?
TheJimmyDoreShow: Sam Harris Drops Patreon - Other Creators Follow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGPgE_-2DmkIn this link Jimmy Dores ask whether utility companies can shut off someone's power or electricity in the same manner. As states before I view Patreon more a financial transaction facilitator so I think that that line of questioning applies. To further this, once Sargon moved to Subscribe Star (an alternative to Patreon), Paypal stopped service to Subscribe Star.
Here is the link to the podcast where Sargon uses the "N" word.
The quote the article posts cuts off the quote mid sentence as Sargon continues "... the way you describe black people acting, is the impression I get dealing with the Alt-Right"
I don't agree with his words and I don't know much about his ideal, though I have seen a few of this videos. I do feel like further context subtly changes the way in which he uses the word.
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Sam Harris drops Patreon, rips 'political bias' of 'Trust and Safety' team's bans
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Comment on Have your political views changed as you've grown older? in ~talk
Moonikun LinkI consider myself conservative. Personally I don't find that my beliefs and ideals have changed much. I find I'm less adamant to assert that my views are correct, I think that's more to do with...I consider myself conservative. Personally I don't find that my beliefs and ideals have changed much. I find I'm less adamant to assert that my views are correct, I think that's more to do with being less passionate about debating such things. I have been told that I have changed by people that know me so maybe it's a change that I just don't personally see. I try to be more open to listening you the opinions of others though I'm sure I have a lot of work to do yet. Hopefully that shows more as time goes on but I'd have to refer you to the opinions of others about me to get a more accurate gauge of if that's true.
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Comment on How The Last Jedi defies expectations in ~movies
Moonikun (edited )Link ParentI think that it's okay to have poor representation but because we have so much of it good representation is what we look for. It's what we need most to balance everything out. We have a full...And it sort of comes back to the question of if it's better to have no representation or bad representation.
I think that it's okay to have poor representation but because we have so much of it good representation is what we look for. It's what we need most to balance everything out. We have a full spectrum of characters but it's not the same with female representation in media. There are lots of troupes but no diversity. The diversity is what is missing, not that we can/ should only have good female characters now. That's not equality or a good representation of the spectrum of women in this world.
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Comment on How The Last Jedi defies expectations in ~movies
Moonikun (edited )Link ParentOh I definitely agree that there is sexism laden in the criticism of the movie. Whether consciously or subconciously people will add in their own biases in their interpretation and of even and we...I still believe there is some sexism in the reception, since I feel the bad writing is being blames more on adding women than on writing them poorly.
Oh I definitely agree that there is sexism laden in the criticism of the movie. Whether consciously or subconciously people will add in their own biases in their interpretation and of even and we all have these biases.
When the main focus of this critique is the strength of the female roles and what they add to the movie comes out it makes me wonder if the strong female roles add to the movie or not? Was developing these strong female roles intentional and why was it not a better movie then? Should this effort not have been put in to reworking the story to make it a better movie? Was the movie made this way specifically just to highlight the strength the female roles? This is why I wish TLJ was a better movie because these things aren't brought to mind.
One of the problems I had with TLJ is that it's full of social commentary, much of which I feel is needless and detracts from the main story. I felt much of the movie was spent on extra bits that didn't really have anything to do with the main story line or anything for that matter. Much of Rose's and Finn's side excursion felt like an excuse to comment on the evils of war profiteering, animal abuse, the wickedness of slavery and then them... falling in love? None of which actually added to the story or had anything to do with what their original goal. The precedence this sets is that the main story is sacrificed for a chance for some cheap commentary on social injustices affecting their (and our) society.
Is gender equality in the film the same? Was the story just a backdrop for commentary on how woman are equal to men or even better than them? All the men are evil in TLJ, all the women are good. The Last Order is mostly men with the exception of Captain Phasma and even she has most identifiable aspects of her femininity removed from the character. All the male good guys are misguided and are in need of guidance or a reprimand from their female counterparts. Is the story just their to as a back drop to all this?
While I don't believe this to be the case. Like I stated before I believe it's just a bad movie that just has social commentary sprinkled in. But when there are so few films out there with strong female roles and this one comes out with such an emphasis on those role but is just a bad film it really hurts. When we reach true equality this won't matter because it'll just be another bad movie with bad character and bad story but right now we're not there. We're at a point where we need strong female character in good movies where their roles actually matter because we're still struggling for equal representation.
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Comment on How The Last Jedi defies expectations in ~movies
Moonikun Link ParentI think this is where just a difference of interpretation comes in. I am just giving examples of established abilities and proficiencies in the previous Star Wars as to the reason why I feel Rey...I think this is where just a difference of interpretation comes in. I am just giving examples of established abilities and proficiencies in the previous Star Wars as to the reason why I feel Rey is a Mary Sue when it comes to being able to do everything with very little to no training or effort. I don't believe your counter argument does anything to change this basis though. In fact it might even support it because now she's a lady that has super genius intelligence that can reverse engineer and use powers and abilities she only briefly get introduced to. She can do to people things they can't do to her (extract information). How is this note a Mary Sue?
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Comment on How The Last Jedi defies expectations in ~movies
Moonikun Link ParentPower by power: Mind control Used by Obi Wan, a Jedi Master in ANH. Used (attempted) by Qui Gon Jinn, a Jedi Master that should have been sitting on the Jedi Council in PM? Used by Luke Skywalker,...Power by power:
Mind control
Used by Obi Wan, a Jedi Master in ANH.
Used (attempted) by Qui Gon Jinn, a Jedi Master that should have been sitting on the Jedi Council in PM?
Used by Luke Skywalker, a self professed Jedi Master in RTJ
Used by Rey, have never been trained and having never believed in the force prior in FATelekinesis
Used by pretty much all Jedi Knight, Masters, Siths
Semi successful/ failed by Luke Skywalker having not completed his training in ESB
Used by Rey (I would say masterfully) having had 1 actual lesson from Luke in TLJSo Rey is basically just a plot devise at this point more than an actual character cause she moves everything around her but is herself never moved. This makes her a terrible example of strong female roles in the movie (going back to the video).
When comparing Anakin to Rey I disregard the age basically because the training and time to become familiar with the use of their powers is the very thing we are discussing. To compare based upon age is to ignore that by the time Anakin was Rey's age he had been training as Jedi for years. I don't agree that age 9 Anakin has shown to be more powerful than Rey but this is due to them not displaying the same power. It could all just be chalked up their power manifesting in different ways since neither demonstrated the same force power. I do think precognition is a more advanced power that even Yoda didn't have mastery over, so you may be right.
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Comment on How The Last Jedi defies expectations in ~movies
Moonikun Link ParentThe difference between Luke and Rey is that even when Luke was strong with the force he required guidance and training, he was still unable to utilize it in the way we see Rey is able to to even...The difference between Luke and Rey is that even when Luke was strong with the force he required guidance and training, he was still unable to utilize it in the way we see Rey is able to to even without proper training. Even beyond just the powers Rey's character does not grow in the two movies, she's seemingly the same person she always has been. Contrast this with Luke from the original story. His character changes, his is experiences in the movies leave their mark. He grows in the force as well as a person. Where is that in Rey's character either in powers or in character? How is she not the Mary Sue? Luke Skywalker in TLJ experiences more personal development and growth than she does. I actually think the movie is more about him than her since he really is the last jedi.
The power difference even between Rey who is noted as a "nobody" and Anakin Skywalker, the first and only case I've known of to be born directly from intervention from the force is vastly on a different scale. I'm not a huge follower of Star Wars in general though I did enjoy the original 3 movies, so a lot of what I'm saying is just based upon the world established from the movies and since this is a continuation of the that specific series I feel like the ground work the those movies made should be applicable.
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Comment on How The Last Jedi defies expectations in ~movies
Moonikun Link ParentI'm going to just assume you're right about this. I'm not super familiar with the details and I've only heard it talked about in a few conversations and maybe a video on Youtube. I never really...I'm going to just assume you're right about this. I'm not super familiar with the details and I've only heard it talked about in a few conversations and maybe a video on Youtube. I never really studied it extensively and it's just something that I half remembered someone staying too me once so I could either be misquoting, misremembering or given bad information (any of the combination of the three as well). From what I do remember it was more how the characters' dialogues with each other never denoted if they were female or male as to be able to cast anyone in those roles. I might be misconstruing or stretching that to thin extent but my point is that each of the characters were strong on their own right not because of their casted gender roles but just because they just are strong characters both well rounded and developed. I feel like this is the best way to show gender equality and strong female roles. While we are discussing demonstrates how each of the female roles is strong in their own way I feel like the characters in Star Wars: TLJ are just not very good to begin with. They're not well rounded, they're flawed but not in a humanizing way.
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Comment on How The Last Jedi defies expectations in ~movies
Moonikun (edited )Link ParentSorry I'm not really familiar with how to quote so this is going to look messy (which it is): I feel like Ray's abilities to wield the force and her lack of background makes for a Mary Sue type...Sorry I'm not really familiar with how to quote so this is going to look messy (which it is):
Curious, why do you think that? Strong female characters already exist in the universe and these are new movies. It wasn't a gender swap of an existing character or anything.
I feel like Ray's abilities to wield the force and her lack of background makes for a Mary Sue type scenario when there is long history of established required training to get to know and wield the force. Even in previous movies there was an emphasis on being strong with force as an inherited trait. In the canon different species interact or react to the force differently thus suggesting some sort of genetic influence to force interaction. How hyper space functions also becomes a plot point that differs from how I and many others understood it. Princess Leia's ability to save herself from the vacuum of space using the force when never having demonstrated any proficiency with the force prior or at least to the same degree. We all know she is strong with the force which is where it is assumed Kilo Ren inherits his strength with the force. While none of these were probably made specifically to booster the female roles specifically because they were female, that you have these roles filled by females and then break the continuity means the characters must shoulder the burden of these flaws with the movie.
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Comment on How The Last Jedi defies expectations in ~movies
Moonikun (edited )LinkIn response to the video. I feel like the social commentary and the push toward strong female leads in this case sometimes came at the cost of continuity with the Star Wars Universe. If it was...In response to the video. I feel like the social commentary and the push toward strong female leads in this case sometimes came at the cost of continuity with the Star Wars Universe. If it was another movie that was separate from already established canon I could enjoy the movie more and appreciate the strong female roles. Take Aliens for instance, a good movie with strong female characters. The movie was written in a way that any of the role could be interchanged with male or female roles truly showing that men and women are equal while giving the audience a good movie to enjoy. Replace any of the strong female roles of Star Wars with men, or replace any of the men's roles with women and the movie in my opinion is still a bad movie. But now you have a bad movie that's pushing the idea that "movies need more strong female roles" and you get a bunch of backlash because at times those two will intersect. The movie sacrifices something in order to make the women stand above the men. Haters will ultimately dwell on that and blame "the push towards feminist representation" for ruining something when really its just that bad movie but with added social agenda sprinkled in. This is why I wish Last Jedi was actually good because then it would be a good movie showing that good movies can also have good strong female characters. As it stands because it pushes an agenda but fails at its primary function for the audience. There's a lot of different criticism of the movie and it all seems to be balled up together eventually. When you push an agenda though it makes some viewers wonder if those criticism aren't at least in part because of the agenda that's being pushed. The most vitriol will latch on to that. I can give credit to the way in which they made the female characters stand out in the movie but standing out wasn't a good thing in this case. That's just my opinion though. Ultimately when there is true equal representation in movies you'll have equal number of good and bad movie with equal parts for men and women but we're not there yet. When it becomes the norm then the character roles that are being emphasized in this movie will be a non factor. But it will still be a bad movie.
This makes me so sad. I was never a hardcore follower of StarCraft but I got to learn about it and enjoy different sides of the Pro scene through "State of the Game" which Geoff was a main party to. His stories were the best.